Ray

Over here in the UK , government are really concerned that vaccines available are not suitable for new strains out of South Africa and Brazil, looks as though top up boosters will be needed once they are available so even 2022 may be off the cards

Obviously you would need to have a back up plan just in case test was positive and you need to stay an extra week or so in isolation.

My first thoughts also, but not just across the pond! What about PR? I know its a US Territory however im sure they have had these measures in place for a period of time which would suggest they are doing their own thing.

Good on them ? Basically stating you have the information beforehand and if you board ship then you do so with this knowledge and at your own risk so dont go filing lawsuits

To date they are the only company selling vaccine at a substantial profit at about $30 a shot compared to the Oxford Vaccine which is about $3 a shot, however 70+ third world countries will get the Oxford Vaccine at cost price, less than the $3

This is the one for me ! I will refuse vaccine if its any other brand and wait for this, no one should be making billions from this pandemic

1 and a half shots ! 2nd shot is only 50% of the 1st

Common sense really, if you are happy to cruise with measures and restrictions in place then book a cruise for 2021, if you dont want so many restrictions in place then dont book it for 2021 leave it for 2022 and hope things are back to some sort of normality by then ? One thing he missed out though, if you book a cruise for 2021 and dont enjoy it due to all the restrictions dont bloody moan about it lol

3rd paragraph done it for me...80% of people who have NEVER been on a cruiseship said they wouldn't cruise! On a brighter note RC are making Bonus payments to all staff ( land and sea ) in jan

Kl however Having dealt in H&S for a number of years, being Nebosh Certified, having written Risk Assessments and safety procedures in line with various government regulations, carried out safety Audits and incident investigations i can honestly say the part you posted didnt say what you said it did. But hey what do i know ?

This section does not say mock sailings can only be from US, what it does say is If you want to sail be it a mock or restricted sailing from any US port then you have to get approval from the ports the ships plan to sail from or visit prior to sailing.

Came across this be interesting to see what happens https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13522576/man-shaking-sweating-covid-dies-united-airlines/

Ooops sorry didnt realise you meant from US port as you never said in post. And im pretty sure a sailing from anywhere in the world right now is a mock sailing and im certain those back in RC head office in Miami will be ensuring that the minimum recommendations laid down by CDC are in place on every ship no matter where it sails from. Also pretty sure RC will be relaying the results of the "not a mock sailing as its from singapore not US" to the relevant bodies in the US..

What about the sailing out of Singapore? Measures required are in place on these cruises

The new strain of virus has the UK government is bricking it...... The rate it can spread is a lot quicker the OG strain, new strain also found in Italy, also no guarantee vaccine will work on new strain This is why we are going back into a lockdown on 26th if new strain takes hold our health service wont be able to cope!

You've obviously never been to some of the parties ive been to ??

Very true.....could fill those spaces with more drinking locations ?

Wonder if she looked at best cocktails to make from disinfectant? Sitting on a Florida Beach sipping a gin and clorex ??

Rules that are aimed to keep you and everyone else on board safe ! Just like Muster Drill...Just like having life boats....Just like having emergency Evacuation Procedures...

NO!!! Economically the world cannot afford to continue as it has for the past 9 months, look at all of the businesses closing down, people being made redundant etc If things were to continue as is then every day/week or month more people would be impacted be it financially, mentally or health. Right now the UK Government is bailing everyone out the best they can with furlough payments, grants or loans but at what cost? Tax increase for those still employed in April? Of course we have the 5 day free for all over xmas to look forward to before we have to suffer another lockdown causing even more misery!

Thanks as everything i said in that post was a complete joke ?

I can see the high flying executive back in 1918 sitting in an airport lounge hooked up to the free wifi reading about the daily death toll or conspiracy theories while they wait to jet across the world And i am 100% certain that be it 5, 10 or 50 years the next virus's to come out of Asia will be treated the same as all the ones previous to 2020 IE Airlines wont bother with masks, people wont think " please god not another 2020" Because the world be it how companies operate or how people think wont change ?

You missed my point....you asked can RC expect things the answer is no they can only hope! They like the taxi drivers or bus companies, the small cafe you get lunch, hotels, airlines, bars and restaurants,basically every business going cannot expect people to use them they can only hope! Its not these companies setting the rules or guidelines its the CDC or local governments who are saying this or that must be done. The cost is irrelevant if people dont sail cruiselines close their doors which is the same for local cafes or taxi companies if people dont use their services, so no RC cannot expect they can only hope. If these companies say we are not operating until this virus is gone then they will go bust, companies must keep going best they can just to keep their doors open, and in doing this they need to follow guidelines whether we like it or not. If we dont like it we don't do it....simple

We will eventually be back to maskless cruising. It's just a matter of how long it will take. .................. Isnt that what i said in 1st paragraph? FOR A GOOD WHILE YET! I never said forever