twangster

Stay safe.

https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2021/05/15/royal-caribbean-cancels-odyssey-of-the-seas-cruise-season-israel

https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2021/05/15/royal-caribbean-cancels-odyssey-of-the-seas-cruise-season-israel

Brandon O. Don't wanna go there.

Well at least you didn’t reach Whitehouse . Com

Tried my number. It’s Celebrity apparently but option 1 takes you to Royal.

I have (800) 533-7803 in my contacts but haven’t tried it today.

I wonder if the promised trade event cruises will get bumped up. @Matt usually gets invited.

I’ve seen a number of winch events and one landing. I’ve never seen the Hollywood special effects so perhaps they have a way to manage that. In both cases the full fire team is readied and waiting. It's not something taken lightly.

Who says she has to wait until November? The GPS directions to a US restart may be recalculating but I’m betting we’ll have clear directions soon with an estimated arrival before November.

Looks like getting ready for a new restart plan. https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/boards/index.php?/topic/23185-odyssey-canceling-haifa-cruises/ We’ll have to see if any of these vloggers remain on board

Not looking good for Odyssey sailing from Israel. https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/boards/index.php?/topic/23185-odyssey-canceling-haifa-cruises/

Spin the wheel... when will the new new new inaugural sailing be?

Guess that makes it official.

Not really. They've done an outstanding job dodging facts and science.

It's still interesting NIH and FDA has rough answers but the CDC had no idea.

You mean like my idea of abolishing the CDC ?

It's common to find them on many ships, such as tanker ships so it's not a new concept or unique to Quantum class. In many cases a helicopter pilot might prefer to use a winch line and hover even when a helipad is available. Landing a helicopter on a ship at sea is a highly technical maneuver and pretty dangerous.

That's not entirely true. There are a number of small cruise lines and shipping companies that are American with American workers with service on some of the same routes. The PVSA impacts nearly every commercial passenger vessel in America from water taxis in Boston to duckboats in Missouri to ferries servicing Staten Island to river boats on the Mississippi or in Washington State. The cruising public is oblivious to the extent that the PVSA touches Americans from coast to coast. The contribution of the PVSA fleet far exceeds the impact of foreign cruise lines. US flagged ship are subject to regulations and inspections that far exceed what foreign ships are subject to. That greatly improves safety across all commercial passenger vessels that are subject to these regulations. Beyond the PVSA is the foreign worker component. Once a ship operates from US ports with no international stops they are subject to US labor laws. Crew have to pay US state and federal taxes like the rest of us. Ships have to follow US labor practices. None of that applies to foreign passenger ships that operate under the PVSA. I've not even touched upon a fraction of the issues. Once you start digging into the details you quickly get into international maritime treaties and complexities that are valid and in place for very good reasons. "I'm not allowed to take a cruise I want, therefore it should change" is such a misinformed position. It is after all the Passenger Vessel Services Act, not the "Cruise Ship Act". There is a reason why any attempt to bring the PVSA up before Congress never makes it out of committee. No one on either side of the aisle is willing to touch it once they are informed on the far reaching impacts beyond taking a cruise. Even cruise lines have no desire to modify the PVSA. No CLIA member cruise line has signalled any desire to change it because they know that would be a disaster to their very successful business model.

Welcome to the message boards. Rumors and speculation right now. Nothing firm. https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/boards/index.php?/topic/23178-odyssey-of-the-seas-leaving-israel-and-heading-to-florida-it-will-offload-crew-to-anthem-of-the-seas/

The CDC will go completely into CYA mode citing "we tried to warn you" blah, blah, blah. Given how ineffective they've been once in pandemic mode it calls into question a lot in the big picture. We need to rethink the whole approach and reimagine the concept of public health agencies possibly eliminating the CDC and replacing it with something that works. That will never happen, too much effort required so the dodgy CDC will be around and even less effective the next time.

On the original Quantum class ships the area was open through a series of arches so crew could go outside but not be exposed to full sun. On Spectrum and Odyssey they closed the arches so it's unknown what the new indoor area is used. The day beds are new to this class but as far as we know this remains a crew only area. From an infrequent suite sail away party on Anthem: The openings seen here on Anthem don't exist on the latest Quantum Ultra ships. It's not known what this now indoor area is used for on Spectrum or Odyssey.

Technically it's a winchpad since helicopters can't land on Quantum class ships.

It's a crew only area. Looks like the covered beds are to give crew an outdoor area they can visit without mingling with guests.

Why can’t you trust atoms? They make up everything.