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  1. It seems doubtful there was much lasting damage. The storm was not that strong and was moving pretty fast for hurricane standards. Really strong storms or really slow movers are the storms that typically cause major problems.
  2. I agree about scrapping the Fantasy Class, but their newer ships are very nice.
  3. I've done the drive both ways. It was way cool, and I hope to do it again 1 day. The only caveat to my endorsement is that we had no traffic issue driving either direction. I have read of traffic nightmares when there is an accident or some other trouble.
  4. I think Carnival is in a good position to come out of all of this mess. They are far less leveraged with new behemoth ships than most of the others and they can constrict their brand by retiring the entire Fantasy Class of ship which needs to be done anyway. By basically staying out of the ship "arms race" of the last 20 years, they are looking pretty smart right now in my opinion.
  5. In my opinion, the Fantasy Class and Spirit Class need to be retired. Carnival could actually benefit from this situation. There's about 14 or 15 ships that need to go. For many people who take their first cruise the thought process is to try a cheap 3 or 4 night cruise to see if they like cruising. Next thing you know they are on a Carnival Elation cruise to the Bahamas and have a negative experience never to come back to cruising again. There will be lots of ship builders looking for jobs. It will be the best time in a long time, possibly ever, to build new ships in 12 or 18
  6. Just because you type it, doesn't mean it's true.
  7. I think you pretty much hit it on the head, and I'll add that many if not most of the authorities around the globe have become drunk on the power of control. If anyone thinks any of this has anything to do with health, safety, cleanliness, social distancing anymore, I've got some oceanfront property in Indiana to sell you.
  8. I might add, the term "erupts" seems a bit harsh. I don't see a single torch. No pitch forks. Heck, I don't even see anyone shaking a fist.
  9. While there is no doubt the cruise lines will face big challenges in the coming months/years. Being written by CNBC means that the cruise line will be shown in the most negative light possible. Frankly, I'm surprised they didn't lob in a "floating petri dish" grenade somewhere in the piece.
  10. I had a note in my list that she was leaving. I guess I need to update!
  11. Using the Voyager Class as the marker between newer and older ships, RCCL has 15 newer ships plus the Odyssey and Spectrum and 11 older ships with the Legend and Grandeur being subtracted soon if not already. Their fleet is much newer than Carnival's which has about 7 newer ships and about 19 older. The Fantasy Class is in need of retirement and the Spirit Class only slightly behind it. RCCL and Carnival are the extremes of the major lines with all the others falling in between.
  12. I believe after the initial barrage of rebookings, there will be a big lull in bookings over the next 1 to 2 years. In my opinion, there will be amazing prices offered, but dining packages, drink packages, and other add-ons will be more expensive, and I'm afraid service and food quality will take a hit.
  13. In the past, yes you could with a 3% fee. I would not be surprised if that rule changes with all the obc being thrown around by the cruise lines.
  14. In this case common sense, morals, and ethics would be supported because of the lawsuits that would come if a harmless legal activity like cruising were outlawed or disallowed by these discriminatory activities. Even with all its warts, and believe me, I've been subject to some of those warts, the United States of America has done more for the benefit of human kind than any country in the history of the planet. It's not close.
  15. Not on a beach in FL, but how about Disney? Retirement home? airplane, subway, city bus? Movie theater, grocery store, school, ball game, church, restaurant, bar? Union meeting? Court? Have you dated? Did you have s*x with someone who could have had a fever? Did you get a list of that person's other partners with contact info so we can check them out? Do you know anyone who has done any of these things? Are you going to tell an LGBT or whatever letters are now used they can't go an an LGTB cruise? Good luck with that. What about NAACP convention in Detroit? You going to tell an e
  16. This is a completely different discussion than an employer stating that employees can't go on a cruise.
  17. Are they going to hire a team of investigators to follow all employees who go on vacation? What happens if they follow me but don't follow my coworker and we find out my coworker went of a cruise? What happens if there is a chartered Christian cruise? Are they going to try to control my religion? Planes? What about ferry boats? If ferry boats aren't allowed, what about city buses? Subways? City trains? What happens if I don't go on a cruise but my wife goes on a girls trip cruise? Do I have to report this to my employer? What happens if the boss' in-laws go on a cruise and then host E
  18. And they can be sued for discrimination for firing someone FOR GOING ON A CRUISE, BUT NOT FIRING SOMEONE FROM GOING TO DISNEY. It's not going to happen. If cruising goes down all of America will go down. And I recognize, this is what some want. Thank God certain recent situations worked out the way they did, because two decisions made by a current decision maker related to who ultimately decides what is allowed and what is not would look very different if some other person made the two decisions as to who ultimately decides what is allowed and what is not.
  19. They can not force me to tell them where I'm going on vacation.
  20. Unless cruising and air travel are banned, which by the way is what is the goal for some of the political side on this, my work cannot stop me from doing what I want on vacation, and I don't have to tell anyone at work what I am doing on my vacation. The US Constitution protects Americans from just this sort of stuff (free speech, freedom to associate, ect). This thing has gone way beyond a contagious illness. It has become a boogeyman. If they are going to ban cruising, I will be the first to join a class action forcing Disney to close. Then sporting events. Then concerts, movies, t
  21. A couple of things that I have thought of with regard to this: I don't know that your employer can force you to disclose what you are doing on vacation. Second this could get real crazy real fast with the freedoms we have in the Constitution.
  22. So we're saying the same thing. The new ships are good and the old ships are not. They need to retire the entire Fantasy Class. Not only are they rusty and old, they are not environmentally friendly, have old engines, water systems, and sewer systems and simply not equipped to handle the volume or regulation. They are beginning to take steps in the direction with the Dream Class in 2009 (Dream, Breeze, and Magic). Those are awesome ships. Then came the Vista, Horizon, and Mardi Gras.
  23. Plus 1. this is my exact point. They have about 20 ships that I would not choose to purchase a trip on (but that I would sail on if part of a group or someone else purchased for us) and about 6 or 7 that I would. RCCL is pretty much opposite of that. This fact combined with the decades old reputation of a "frat party at sea" and "Walmart of cruise lines" has millions of Americans who've never seen a cruise ship claiming Carnival is the devil on Earth. At least that's my opinion of the problem they have.
  24. The Carnival topic comes up here often. Everyone has their own taste, I get that. For us, after about 3 days of Windjammer lunch on RCL, we're looking for something else. Carnival's newer ships never leave us wanting something else for lunch. We are not big on upgraded restaurants, so we do the MDR unless it is a special occasion. Carnival's dinner menus are as good as Royals to us... if not better. The place Carnival falls short is its fleet. The majority of their ships are 20 or so years old. They did not get into the arms race of bigger better ships in the early 2000s. Howe
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