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Quantum got there today, I think it’s the second time for both ships this season.

So ,I’m D+ and I believe I can jump across to MGM Gold from memory??. Could I use that with clubroyale ?

I think Utopia has a pretty good chance of heading to Asia. Hong Kong Cruise terminal has Ship LNG ,Shanghai and Singapore also . China dropped its cruise ban in December and I think we can expect Spectrum to be deployed to Hong Kong later this year to start things rolling.

This season has been a bit of a disaster for the pacific islands especially for Quantum. Today Quantum once again dropped Mystery Island, chattering to someone on board they blamed bad weather.The person onboard didn’t think the weather was that bad but none of the islanders turned up after the ship anchored. Between Quantum and Ovation I think there has been only one successful visit to Mystery Island,which is the highlight of the pacific islands. Carnival group doesn’t seem to be having a problem ,I’m starting to think Royal has had a fallout with the locals. Here’s a couple of snap shots off a local agent. Quantum is 20% discounted cheaper than Ovation and Quantum’s not selling very well .

As close as possible to the elevator, never had a problem with noise, who wants to walk a mile to the elevators anyway.

It probably could but not likely. Melbourne could quite easily fill a radiance class by its self. It’s a pretty big city and is very attractive to overseas tourists. Much more attractive than Brisbane.

Voyager class is the biggest ship that can get into Melbourne. I believe Quantam has to much side wind cross section. Its a narrow channel and if the wind is bad ,it could be a bit hazardous. As for Melbourne as a home port ,it would have to be a hundred times better that Brisbane, especially for N.Z . It might be just more Royal hype ,I just thought I would post it.

https://www.royalcaribbean.com/aus/en/cruise-from/melbourne-australia?&country=AUS

When Royal go back to Hong Kong, I think it will be with Spectrum and probably next year. Singapore has been good to Royal and they won’t be deploying a old ship .It will be Quantum class or better. I don’t think in will be a Oasis just yet and the only ship I can think of is Anthem. Quantum class has been successful in the pacific and another would go well in the long term in Alaska,Los Angeles, Australia ( Lelepa) and possibly even Tokyo.

I believe Royal has been engaged with Hong Kong over the past months . If they do send Spectrum to Hong Kong mid year , what will replace it in Singapore is the big mystery. It would have to be a similar class or better. There’s been a bit of speculation of Anthem coming to the pacific but who knows ?? .It could slot straight in place of Spectrum for a year. Utopia could go straight to Asia,there’s plenty of LNG for it.

Apparently the Chinese central government has just dropped the cruise ban for Hong Kong and Shanghai. Royal Caribbean might finally get the green light for its cruises to nowhere out of Hong Kong. https://www.china-briefing.com/news/china-travel-restrictions-2021-2022-an-explainer-updated/ https://www.chinatravelnews.com/article/169282

There’s nothing wrong with a smaller ship . I don’t think Brisbane is selling nowhere near Sydney but I believe Quantum will stay there to service the private island.

But as said the smaller ships are getting to their use by date and Royal is always going to need a class of ships to go through the Panama Canal for Alaska ,And also smaller ports around the world. Also I can see size restrictions in some places like the N.Z. fiords ,we already have restrictions on some of our islands. If Royal limits it self to big ships ,it’s going to not be able to develop new markets in the future. Take ‘India ,one day could be a potential boom market and they can’t really feel out the market with a oasis.

The paint would be worth that ,I wonder if the do something with the half build one.

`Discovery class ‘ is the name, so rumour goes

I hope no one was in it

A new cruise terminal for Sydney will be a few years away. Apparently Sydney port authority is in discussion with the cruise lines to create a new birth for cruise ships in port botany. Where is the big question ,probably a temporary one in commercial docks and a then a new cruise terminal. But the more oasis capable ports the better. Something must be in motion because there’s a little town south of Sydney called Eden. N.S.W ports are upgrading it specifically to accommodate a Oasis class.

I think the subject is Oasis class down under? Oasis could do the north island from Sydney and I think it would be a good itinerary. Sydney ,Auckland , Tauranga maybe Picton and up to Lelepa. Probably 10 nights but what a itinerary ,it would be the best of everything.

Ovation had to hover in the middle of the river in Auckland and tender. A real pain. There was talk years ago of using the container terminal but like Sydney it was privately owned . I think by Patrick. So it seems Royal Caribbean has negotiated a deal to use the container terminal in Auckland. Hopefully with the legislation just past to upgrade Newcastle container movements . Royal might negotiate a deal to use Port Botany container terminal in Sydney. Oassis would quite easily fit into there but check in would have to be off site ,That would be the problem.

I have friends who are currently on Ovation in N.Z. They just called ,they are docked in Auckland at the container terminal and apparently they where told,the container terminal can take a Oasis. There’s a shuttle bus into the city but they said must better that tendering. So one more Oasis port for down under.

It’s the tropics,no penguins.

There would be a lot of backlash if they did something like that. We like Americans down here but we like being our self .

With the itineraries both Ovation and Quantum have ,they could quite easily do a couple of surprise visits to Lelepa,that’s if they had wharf of some kind. Vila is nice but I don’t think it’s a suitable place for all the overnights they have this season. A short day on Lelepa and around the corner to Vila for the next day, it would be a good advertisement.

From memory the island is very religious, I wonder how that’s go to go with alcohol ,bikinis and loud music. But from Royal’s side they want to bring in people with expertise from construction through to mixing drinks and the locals want to control it. I bet they are wishing the had outright ownership of the land.