APM Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Sorry if this is long but I had previously reverse engineered the booking formula for club royale rates and room upgrades so I could do some accurate vacation planning. The new rollout seems to have tweeked them a bit and I was wondering if anyone else had some answers. Pretty confident that the methodology is still accurate when upgrading to a stateroom room from a comp stateroom offer. RACK Rate of desired room - RACK rate of comp room yields RACK upgrade price. Take club royale discount off of that ( I had always received about 48% discount but I recently received a 60% discount on an upgrade to a GS on Harmony) then add taxes and fees and voila...Out of pocket cost. So, first question is....is 60% the new normal? Second question is, when using the trade in value instead of the COMP room (assume when the COMP is limited to a specific sailing). Is the trade in value subtracted before or after the casino rate is applied. Since the trade in value is normally well below the COMP stateroom value I think it is applied after the casino discount....I don't know. Any help is appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, APM said: RACK Rate of desired room - RACK rate of comp room yields RACK upgrade price. I'm not following this part very well. But...It has been very consistent for me as follows: Whatever the discounted rate is (30% off, 25% off, whatever the current sale happens to be), discount that <discounted> rate by 60% and you will get your casino upgrade charge. It isn't exact, but it will be a pretty darned good guess and it's been very consistent for at least the past 6 months. Example: August 25, 2019 Liberty of the Seas - Owner's Suite List price (is this your "rack" price ?) - 3838 PP - $2513 (60% plus some flash sales) = 3838*2 = 7272 - 2513= $5163 The casino upgrade cost for an inside comp (certificate) room to OS was $996 PP or $1992 total. 1992 is 38% of 5163 so my ultimate discount off of the advertised list price was 62%. Example #2: April 28, 2019 Freedom of the Seas - Owner's Suite List price - 4826 PP - 3106 in promos = $6546 The casino upgrade cost for an inside comp (cert) to OS was $1349 PP or $2698 total. 2698 is 41% of 6546 so my ultimate discount off the advertised list price was 59%. Only a 3% variance so I think it's a pretty good rule of thumb that your casino rate for a comped room is going to be 40% of the advertised, discounted rate. If you compare the casino rate to the FULL price, it REALLY sounds good....but that's not a fair comparison as nobody pays full price. Now....I suspect that the percentage discount is category-dependent...so I doubt you would get that same (60%) discount percentage going from an interior room to say a balcony, but I really don't know as I never book anything other than a suite these days. The 60% rule has worked all the way up to Star Class so I think it must be a pretty good approximation. This is why a certificate for a comped room - no matter what category it is - is SOOO much better than a certificate for $$ off. I just throw any $$ off certificates I get into the trash. They are useless to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 hours ago, APM said: Is the trade in value subtracted before or after the casino rate is applied. Since the trade in value is normally well below the COMP stateroom value I think it is applied after the casino discount....I don't know. Any help is appreciated. No. The $$ off value is subtracted from the regular, full rate so that's why the comp certs are so much more valuable than any $$ off cert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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