RoyalLaker
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Vision of the seas was listed on Los Angeles port cruise schedule for 1 day in November 2018, so i sent a email to Mr. Goldstein asking him if he had any news to share. Here is Royal Response
Dear Mr.
Thank you for contacting the executive offices of Royal Caribbean International. We received your email to Mr. Goldstein and I am responding on his behalf.
We are still in the process of finalizing the 2018-19 planning for Royal Caribbean. We do not comment on specific berthing reflected on individual port web sites. Please note that often times multiple programs are requested for during the itinerary planning process but are not official, nor necessarily indicative of the ship being considered, until we open for sale. Final details will be available soon.
Thank you for writing to us, Mr.
Cordially,
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I saw that. I would kinda like to own a Sovereign Class cruise ship. Wanna chip in?
I would prefer to own a Radiance or Voyager class.
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I think that Oasis 4 will probably go to Miami because shouldn't RCCL's new terminal be done by then? I do think that they will move one of their Oasis class ships out of Florida, though. Who knows maybe they will even switch one of the Quantum Class ships with an Oasis class. Then will finally be a Quantum Class ship in Florida.
A lot of people believe Oasis 4 in Miami and Anthem to somewhere in Florida (Freedom replaces Anthem). Who knows what will end up happening, but it will be fun to see how these deployments play out
My guess is if Anthem leaves NJ she goes to China where Q4 and Q5 will probably go as well.
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The old Monarch of the seas is on the list also
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The next one out of LA, if they ever return.
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This expansion of the Long Beach Pier was announced a couple of months ago. And while exciting, it doesn't mean much for Royal as they sail out of the Port of Los Angeles. Further, they've repeatedly started that fares are too low to justify sailing out of California in the next few years.
Ive seen Vicki Freed's comments on the pricing and she is referencing the Baja route.
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Anthem shows up on 9/9/18 so it looks like 2 ships out of Bayonne. I was thinking maybe Anthem was repositioning to Alaska for the summer since the yields are out a all time high for the company.
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I guess its how you look at the glass, Half empty or half full? I think this Seatrade article gives a more accurate picture.
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Hey Marc your card made it to the google image search
Also notice just his first name on the card? Tying to imply maybe that we treat our suite guests like family? Great if you are a suite guest but can make the common normal guest feel unwanted or welcome. Like the third class Titanic passengers held back out of the first class section as the ship sank.
He removed it. All seapass cards have first and last names.
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My wife usually likes to take some nice jewelry on our cruises. On the return going through customs and the agent ask about the rings on her fingers, is the burden of proof on my wife to show where and when she purchased them or on customs to show if she just purchased them on the cruise? This has never happened on any of our cruises but after seeing the discussion on Rolex watches this has got me to wondering.
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I read on cc that mid week of the cruise we will get something asking if we want our luggage taken to airport directly. I understand they take it to where it needs to go and you check-in at port for your flight? Any experience with this? Good or bad?
I have used it twice with no issues and there is no over the weight limit fees.
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Matt are you going to post a link to the boutique on the blog?
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"Life is Better Cruising with Royal Caribbean" Just not from the LA Port......
Lets look it at this way, for ME it is! :)
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It is clear you really want to see Royal return to LA.... Sorry it is not going to happen anytime soon. Royals plans do not include LA. The Panama Canal has no effect on Royal Fleet other than when they want to move ships from USA coast. As for the port director his job is to get more business in his port, his job is not to look after the shareholders of Royal.
If you want to cruise from LA several other choices are offered on other lines.
The port director is a her not him.
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It has effected cargo ships, it has not effected Royal's cost. Again talking about two different things here.
What is the dollar amount on turnaround day for RCI in LA? It has affected not just cargo but also passenger vessels, Clearly stated by the port director!
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The Panama Canal will not change any of the cost that I sited above... dock workers, truck drivers, Port Security, Local office port staff, warehouse workers, all are not effected by the Panama Canal and unless you are talking about ships traveling through the canal itself. But we are not talking about that we are talking about the LA Port Area. Which for this discussion is unaffected by the Panama Canal.
Yes it is. Local news has been reportinng on it for the last couple of years And the mayor of LA has set up a Adviserie committee. The ports of L A and Long Beach have figured they lost about 10 percent of bussiness due to the recent work stoppage over a new labor contract. Ships are heading to the gulf and east coast ports because products are getting to market faster. They are now looking too fully automated terminals to keep cost down and stay competitive.
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When I said labor cost I was not talking about the crew on the ships. I was talking about the dock workers, truck drivers, Port Security, Local office port staff, warehouse workers, all the staff Royal has on the ground that never cruise on the ships. LA Port is union and has among the highest post cost in the country. San Diego puts a low passenger port tax in place in a effort to attack passengers but all the other ground costs are very high.
Well with the expansion of the Panama Canal the West Coast port pricing will have to be competive with the rest of the nation.
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Fuel Costs, Labor Costs, Port Fees, all reasons to stay out of the LA ports. "Dubai's cruise fare are very comparable to the LA's." Yes but the fuel cost in Dubai is among the lowest in the World, so when you look at the overall picture while the fare maybe the same the net revenue is much lower out of the LA port.
When Royal has been asked about LA they have sited many causes but I do not remember them talking about fuel cost as the major factor. With a limited number of ships the fleet is better in other places.
I believe it is the fuel cost the caused them to leave LA. RCI hedges on averages about 50 percent of the fuel. As for the labor cost RCI ships are foreign flagged, they are not subject to California state labor laws. I have taken 10 cruises out of California the highest taxes and port fees I paid where Florida and Washington the cheapest port taxes fees I paid where out of San Diego.
When Matt inteviewed Vicki Freed she said thier cost was higher for operating cruises and at the current price point they could not make a profit, " its a bath out there." So based on all the info and facts common sense tells me FUEL.. Now if RCI can retrofit a Radiance class or vision class ship with a scrubber and knowing the contract they signed with the port of LA when the repositioned Mariner of the seas is up in 2018 next year when they announce their deployment schedule for 2018 and 2019, I think its highly likely they return to the west coast.
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I believe RC's decision to keep a ship year round has more to do with the prices it can command than anything else. If RC could fill ships and make money from cruises departing Bangor, Maine, I am sure they would do it.
While there are many factors that contribute to where ships are homeported, a requirement is being able to sell the cruise for a profit (and fill the ship).
From what we've heard from RC, the fares RC could command out of LA are not what they'd like.
I believe the real factor here is California's ARB Emission Reduction Plan for Ports (Ultra low sulfur fuel) the plan went into effect in late 2009 hence Mariners of the seas depature anouncement out of LA in early 2010, ULSF is double the price of regular bunker fuel and is hard to procure. Even though other cruise lines stayed they repositioned smaller ships to the market adjusting to the lower demand in hoping increased cruise fares to cover the fuel cost.
The federal law that came into effect in 2015 is for emmisions containing ULS, and also requires ships to be compliant with state law. California's state law requires ship to burn ULSF. Come to find out a lot of the ship found their fuel was out of compliance with law becuase regular bunker fuel at the bottom of the tank was enough to contaiment the ULSF when they filled up. So to comply with the law You need a tank dedicated to ULSF only or you have to do a complete scrub down of the tank prevoiusly carrying regular bunker fuel. California's ARB just released guidance in 10/15 allowing for scrubbers in good faith to comply with law. Galveston and Dubai's cruise fare are very compariable to the LA's. My guess is with the states new guidance on scrubbers we will see a RCI ship here soon with it.
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Royal Caribbean has essentially said there is not enough money to be made in west coast cruises (currently). They believe fares would be too low to be profitable.
Here is recent post about the prospects of returning to the west coast: http://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2015/11/03/royal-caribbean-talks-about-possibility-of-returning-west-coast
They could save a lot of money on fuel running a seasonal ship out of San Diego with different Itineraries.
7 night MR
7 night PC
3 & 4 night get aways
14 night Hawaii
Just saying! :)
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All positive signs the glass is half full and filing.