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Anyone know what Odyssey is supposed to do early 2022?

33 minutes ago, kelliejkunz said:

We are going to rent a day bed for our day at CocoCay. Would you recommend Chill Island or South Beach? We sail January 4th, 2020.

South Beach will open in January of 2020 so nobody will be able to give you an informed opinion just yet.  I'm sure there will be reviews when it opens!  Enjoy!

As a general rule cruise fare will increase as the sail date approaches  (ex $1000 2 years out, $1250 18 months out, $1500 1 year out).  Does the "discounted group rate" of 8 cabins+ always equal a percentage of the current cruise fare or is it more accurate to say the group rate is more of a fixed number? 

Here's a little more specific info.  My wife, kids, and I are going to book cruise X on date X on ship X.  We know if we book earlier we will (theoretically) get the lowest fare (and if it drops we can re-price).  There is a very good chance we will get enough family to join us and we'll create our own group booking.  The only issue is we likely won't get everyone to commit as early as we want to book.  If the group rate is a flat rate then there is no rush.  If the group rate is a percentage of the fare do they use the current rate or the rate of an earlier booked guest??

Any help is appreciated!

Saw this on a couple Facebook groups.  No supporting links yet.  Only one photo that is not a Q class but the rendering looks different from Current Oasis class ships.  3 am local time so not much to check for confirmation.  I'm sure it is middle of the day half way across the world.  Please delete if this is just inter webs misinformation.  

3 hours ago, DublinFC said:

@Baked Alaska I jumped on as soon as I saw the email to look at pricing for later in 2021 and nadda.  I am seeing the same thing.  I thought maybe I would need to sign in and still nothing.  Have to love fake news....

2 hours ago, Baked Alaska said:

ARGH!! I sent an email to @Sharla at MEI to see what she can dig up. 

From what I can figure their year runs from May to the end of April.  We will need to wait for 2021-2022 sailings which include everything from May 01st 2021 until end of April 2022. From what I can gather they just mean that the 2020-2021 up until end of April are now complete.  Ex. ships like Empress and Majesty that weren't fully scheduled until end of April now are.    

22 hours ago, RatedPG said:

I have been on 5 Royal Caribbean cruises so far.  Now I'm having this desire to sail on all the ships in the RCCL fleet.  That would be 22 ships to go for me.  Would this be a worthwhile endeavor?

How would this compare to just aiming for sailing on one ship in each class?  That would just be three more classes to go - Freedom Class, Vision Class, and Empress

My cruises so far:

Oasis Class - Harmony

Quantum Class - Ovation

Voyager Class - Mariner

Radiance Class - Serenade

Sovereign Class - Majesty

 

 

I plan on doing this as well and I'm way behind you having only sailed Explorer 10 years ago!    I'm also itinerary driven and will likely hold off on ships like Spectrum until they either reposition or I reach a point that it's schedule seems appealing or more affordable.  But I honestly believe if spaced out the right way the ports/itinerary will easily be the deciding factor and I won't feel like I booked sailing just to say i've been on a particular ship.  I've always wanted to go to UAE so we plan on doing that in 2023 and Australia in 2025.  I live in Saskatchewan, Canada which unfortunately means flights but on a positive note i'm so far from each port that i'm not faced with feeling guilty about flying away from a "home port."

With all of that said how often do ships reposition.  I've only been back in the game so to speak since early this year.  It seems like ships spend many, many years in a home port.  

for reference:

Apr 2020 Enchantment to Cozumel

Sept 2020 Mariner 2N Perfect day

Dec 2020 Oasis Western Caribbean

Mar 2021 Rhapsody to Belize/Roatan

May 2021 Grandeur to Bermuda (planned based on previous schedule)

Nov 2021 Vision 11 night ABC islands (planned based on previous schedule...notice the vision class focus 2021).    

2 hours ago, sk8erguy1978 said:

 

Yes, very exciting. However, Empress advertises as tendering in St. George, she's small enough to dock, no?

2 hours ago, sk8erguy1978 said:

It's an overnight so it struck me as odd tendering. Either way, since Bayonne is my "home port" it's one I'm watching. 

The May 11 sailing has the ship docking there.  The other itineraries have it tendering.  Not sure but clearly as indicated by the May 11 it can dock there.  

It won't ADD to your C&A but you get reciprocal status.  As an example if you are Diamond with Royal you will get the perks of whatever the equivalent Captain's Club level is.  

On 7/12/2019 at 1:29 PM, twangster said:

Radiance class can fit into Baltimore, or so Michael Bayley has stated.  The issue is that Royal makes more money with Radiance class ships elsewhere right now.

Radiance was #10 in revenue in 2018, ahead of Indy and Liberty.  Putting her in Baltimore would needlessly give up revenue.  Why do that?

That's a potential problem when it's time for Vision class to leave the fleet.  Why move a ship that's capable of making more money elsewhere into Baltimore?

Until then Lady G is a hometown favorite.  Why mess with success?

In 2026 when Norway goes zero emissions in the fjords they'll need new summer routes for some ships.  That might change the revenue topography and bring Baltimore into consideration.

 

Hey Twangster, I've searched for revenue by ship but can't seem to find anything reliable other than overall revenue and reports.  Is there a quick reference out of curiosity or do you need to be involved in shares to see that specific info?  Thanks.  

Nice Work Matt.  This blog has been great for me and my family!!!

36 minutes ago, twangster said:

It should be much like a charter where they typically some OBC and/or price protection on alternate cruises.  It depends.  

At this point just assume they are going as planned.  They probably will.  

On 7/2/2019 at 12:32 PM, mom2mybugs said:

So with the new icon ordered, and all other ships, do you think RC will sell vision and Rhapsody in the near future?  Can the bigger ships get into, for example, the Greek isles?  Do you think they will hold on to empress and majesty in hopes Cuba will open again? Or cut their losses?  Jane

Now Im curious if anyone recalls how much advanced notice is given anytime a ship is sold or transferred from one line to the next?  Is there an industry standard or is it rather immediate? 

3 hours ago, bdtrex said:

Pretty sure at least 2 of the vision class ships are for sale. 

 

$250,000,000-300,000,000 so if we all chip in....lol

So if they sell are the currently booked cruises cancelled/altered?  Or do they just stop booking future cruises.  I'm currently booked for Rhapsody Mar 2021 and will be booking Grandeur May 2021.

Hello, 

We have three future cruises booked but are wondering about the benefits of using the Next Cruise onboard the ship for future cruises after that.  Other than the lower deposit amount is there significant deals to be had or is it not really that crucial to book there??  Any advice would be appreciated, thanks!!  

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Ps our cruises are Enchantment April, 2020, Oasis Dec 2020, and Rhapsody March 2021.