Moby Dick

Sounds like a plan. I hope that works out for ya!

I don't need no stink'in excursion to drink with the monkeys. I've got my grandkids to drink with!

Thank you too for your service. Out!

We didn't know it was her first cruise until either Rahul or Dexter told us. If you see Agostina, tell her I said hi. I'm Jay the guy with the handlebar/curled mustache, her first cruise as a Genie and she took care of all 8 suites, the party with two old retired Army guys. That all should help her remember me. Even though she really only took care of us for 2 1/4 days, we still gave her several hundred $. I'd hope she would remember that. I hope you get her too.

We had Rahul for only two days as he hurt himself. Then we had Dexter for two days as he hurt himself. Then we had Agostina, as stated her first time as a full fledged Genie. She was the only Genie left for all 8 Star Class suites. To be honest, I really didn't have a problem with Rahul. But, as I said, we only had him for 2 days. I think Agostina did a very good job taking care of all 8 suites. But, you could see it on her face that she was about fried at the end of the cruise. As I understand it, she had to start off the next cruise after ours without help.

Actually, I don't get that at all. I think the OP just doesn't want to do one thing and find out at the port that something else should have been done. To be honest, my only point about this, after the dust started to fly, is to have people JUST FOLLOW the written word from the official source. Like I said, I should have just went to Royal's site to begin with and posted it rather than posting the original question, I posted. Bottom line, regardless of original intent, kids under 12 do not have to show proof of any vaccination. <Disclaimer: As of today! And, I don't think that policy has changed in a long time.

That's good news, for sure. I hope they have ironed out the previous problems. What time did you get there? At the terminal, that is.

Very very true. But, that's not to say that there isn't going to be a cluster at terminal 1, as stated in the OP. If I had a booking going out of Canaveral terminal 1 (and I don't know if 5 is any better) I'm glad I'm an elderly person in great shape.

I believe we have has some, at least one, in here say that there was no problem with the "On Point" test. While, I do recommend the use of eMed, not that I'm an expert or anything, I wouldn't say that RC "recommends" eMed. I believe that they are in some type of business relationship with Abbott/Optum. I'm sure that Royal is realizing some kind of revenue stream form one or the other or both. I believe Royal is just advertising the Abbott/Optum option. Nothing wrong with the business relationship or Abbott and eMed. I just wouldn't call it a recommendation. From what I've read, the "On Point" test meets all of Royal's requirements and is a much cheaper alternative. Especially if you use the U.S. Government's "free" COVID test kits that can be mailed to you, again, for "free". Which nothing is really free. I've got 8 of them sitting right next to me just waiting on the expiration date to come.

I could be very wrong here but, I believe they use different terminals. You may want to look that up.

But, Royal doesn't require any jabs for those under 12. See my link above. "While we do not require kids 11 or younger than to be vaccinated........." Look, I'm just going by the current information that is given in Royal's own site. My original question was an honest question. I saw a couple of different "opinions" so I went and looked it up (I should have done that to begin with, I guess) and the link is what I found. If that information is incorrect or outdated, take it up with Royal. But, if Royal says that they don't require kids 11 and younger to be vaccinated to embark on their ships, what are we to believe? I usually go with the official written word. BTW, it also says they don't require kids 11 and younger to show proof of Vaccination. That tells me that if you only have 1 or 2 of the three shots, you don't even have to show that. They won't know if the kid had one, two, or three OR any. It doesn't matter. It does say that kids 11 and younger MAY show proof of vaccination and can follow the protocols of vaccinated guests. May doesn't mean shall, will, has to, is required...................

Correct. But, I've been assured that the "CHIP" in the card is a much more secure system than a PIN. Riiiiiiiiight! We'll see! Oh, most places/card readers still require a PIN for Debit Card transactions!

My original response is actually in reference to Royal's jab requirements. Royal doesn't require any jabs for those 11 and under. The doctor may be right as far as meeting the definition of "Fully Vaccinated" for kids, but that has nothing to do with Royal's requirements for children 11 and under. https://www.royalcaribbean.com/faq/questions/do-i-need-a-covid-vaccine-to-cruise-what-counts-as-proof FOR CRUISES DEPARTING FROM NORTH AMERICA (U.S., PUERTO RICO, CANADA) All Royal Caribbean guests age 12 and older must present proof of full COVID-19 vaccination with the final dose of their vaccine administered at least 14 days before sailing. Kids age 11 or younger who have been vaccinated may present proof of full vaccination and follow the protocols for vaccinated guests. While we do not require kids 11 or younger than to be vaccinated, many are and it is highly likely destinations will begin to require guests age 5 and older to be vaccinated. We will notify booked guests as this guidance evolves.

WOW. If I ever put the wrong address into my billing address and the C.C. company/clearing house accepts it/approves the sale, I'll drop that company in a NY minute.

To Spang1974: Yep, "opinion". We are all entitled to one. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ A generalized statement: Some folks seem to think that an "opinion" is a statement of fact. All my comments above are "my opinions", not statements of fact, not statements of experience (I have never been the CEO of Royal), just the world according to Jay. YMMV

After reviewing it, it may have been better to say, "If Royal wants to quickly get back to pre-pandemic profits, they need to start thinkin about the long term, not JUST the short term".

BTW, if there is a "Roll Call" for your cruise in this forum, see if there is any interest in there. If there isn't a "Roll Call" start one. In either case, ask if anybody is interested in meeting at the court to play. Can't hurt.

Yes, that is true. But, they said, "The doctor said he needs 3 shots". Which I don't think is true. So, it is possible for them to get the two jabs, that are required presently, well outside of the 14 day requirement. Hence, their kids under 5 can be fully jabbed and still cruise, again at today's requirements.

If using a C.C., I believe the address must be the same as what's on file with the C.C. profile. You can use a separate delivery address but the billing address must be the official profile address. I don't have an answer to the OP's question, though.

I wouldn't argue that with you. Not word for word, anyway. I just think that Customer Service/Satisfaction/Experience and maintaining customer loyalty/repeat customers are a very important aspect in a company's success. I don't think anybody can argue that. And we have witnessed, in here, a few people that were repeat customers of Royal's that have said that they are leaving Royal or at least taking a break for them. If it happens in this relatively small social media forum, you can only imagine how it is out there in the whole big wide world. Something that I will never believe is that the CEO is ignorant about OR doesn't care about. In my limited Corp experience, we didn't have the, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality". We had the, "how can we make it better" mentality. And it worked. If Royal wants to quickly get back to pre-pandemic profits, they need to start thinkin about the long term, not short term. I believe there is more to this story than what you or I are saying. Maybe not nefarious, just something and I can't put my finger on it. But, I still think there are far too many incompetent people at the top of the IT heap. There are many issues with the website that don't take big $$$$ to fix or keep from happening. Too many repeated, over and over again, issues. When I read some posts in here and/or when I go to Royal's site, it kinda reminds me of "Groundhog Day". But, once again, we are beating a dead horse over and over again. It really doesn't matter how we feel about Royal's IT, no matter how expert we feel we are about it. They will do what they do and I will keep on complaining/commenting about what they do and my opinion of it.

Yep, not directly a cruise topic. But, one that can be of a lot of interest to some cruisers, especially younger ones. BTW, I've been in the mid 800s for decades. The interest rate I was quoted wasn't much of a big deal. Just hurt my ego a little, I guess. A large amount of credit available is a good thing as long as the ratio of credit to income isn't off balance toooooooooooo much. In my case, it was off balance by a bunch. Like I've said in here a few times, I'm very middle class. I had, at the time, a few hundred thousand dollars in available credit. Not good! It was easy to take care of though. Just a letter to each creditor to close the account and within a month or two, I was in balance again and all is well. I've acquired several C.C. since then and need to start the process all over again. We are suckers for those deals in/at the front of stores (or Royal Caribbean's Next Cruise Desk, BOA C.C. offer) that offer this, that, and the other thing if we open an account with them. Okay, I'm done now. The horse has been beaten.

But, isn't only the original 2 shots required? I'm seriously asking, not an agenda question.

I appreciate what you are saying. But, I'd like to know how you KNOW what Liberty and/or Bayley know or are thinking. I'd find it hard to believe that they don't know or care about their customer's experience(s). Call me naïve but I would think that a customer's experience and critical reviews of a company's performance wouldn't be at the top of the CEO's interest and concern.

Yep, I hear ya. To be honest, I'd be happy to let them cancel them. I've got way too many open C.C. accounts as it is. I actually need to start calling and closing accounts. Many years ago, I applied for a signature loan at PNC bank. I didn't get the interest rate that I though I should have. I asked why as I have never been late with a payment in my life, I was told that I had toooooooo many open credit accounts, it didn't matter how trustworthy I was. The loan officer told me to go home and look at my freecreditreport.com or what ever it is and see for myself. I couldn't believe it. I had pages and pages of open accounts, things that I had decades earlier. Needless to say, I close about 90% of them. I'm now, and should have been a long time earlier, a firm believer in looking at my credit report often. None of the C.C.s I have in the safe are very important to me anyway.

Hence, start from the top down, as stated. The CEO has got to be aware of what is going on with the digital system they have. Get there IT VP or whatever is the top of the IT chain and demand better with a time line and ask what is needed to get it fixed, negotiate what is needed vs what can be afforded. If things aren't fixed or significantly improved by the time line, time to start getting replacements.