princevaliantus Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 I've been cruising almost 40 years and it never ceases to amaze me that every once in awhile you get a real dumb schmuck !! (excuse my french) Read the article: https://www.foxnews.com/travel/royal-caribbean-passenger-arrested-fined-4000-for-marijuana-possession Sweety 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Babe Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 A similar situation happened when we were on the summit in September. We docked, 15 policeman, arrested 3 for Marijuana. You can't fix stupid. Sweety, princevaliantus and bhageerah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted October 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 40 minutes ago, Boston Babe said: A similar situation happened when we were on the summit in September. We docked, 15 policeman, arrested 3 for Marijuana. You can't fix stupid. I agree whole-heartedly!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 i take it that it wasnt prescribed for medical purposes? Sweety and rjac 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted October 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 40 minutes ago, Ray said: i take it that it wasnt prescribed for medical purposes? This is irrelevant and moot since she transported the drugs, etc. onto foreign soil/waters. 4ensic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 26 minutes ago, princevaliantus said: This is irrelevant and moot since she transported the drugs, etc. onto foreign soil/waters. i agree pretty stupid since she could have bought it on any street corner there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmdrfrag Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 This has reminded me of this story. The first cruise I was on on Independence there where 2 groups of people that where getting a bit drunk by the pool bar, at one point the bar man had to run off to grab some supplies, guy was on his own in there, so 2 members of the groups jumped the bar, helped themselves to drinks and then walked off as if nothing had happened. The next part of the story I head from one of the cabin attendants the next day, so early the next morning we docked in Vigo, Security marched down to the staterooms, blatered on the doors till they opened up and escorted them all off the ship, hangovers and all. Apparently the screaming very quickly turned to begging. Really don't understand the thinking of some people at times CruisinUngs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Crush Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/7/2018 at 12:34 PM, Ray said: i take it that it wasnt prescribed for medical purposes? On 10/7/2018 at 1:14 PM, princevaliantus said: This is irrelevant and moot since she transported the drugs, etc. onto foreign soil/waters. With more widespread legalization (medical and recreational) around the world, I think this is going to happen much more often. And that $4,000 fine is probably the tip of the iceberg for how much it'll cost in the end after lawyers fees and everything. You have to abide by the law of the land you're in. Just because something is legal back home, doesn't mean it's going to be legal abroad! 4ensic and Fuzzywuzzy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 Not sure how you could "forget" all the stuff that they found in her bag and room but...lol It is going to be something that we may hear happening more as more countries legalize it, but many still wont. Here in Canada its legal trmw and you can fly within Canada with up to 30 grams(about 60-70 joints on you).....but lots of warnings not to take it anywhere outside of here on your person. princevaliantus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted October 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 minute ago, monctonguy said: Here in Canada its legal trmw and you can fly within Canada with up to 30 grams(about 60-70 joints on you).....but lots of warnings not to take it anywhere outside of here on your person. Hmmm...makes ya wanna move to Canada!! Ray, JLMoran, monctonguy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 Reading the story it says they found canabis oil, grinder and marajuana pipes in her cabin, no mention of actual marijuana as the article states. If marajuana was found on her maybe she bought that on the island and thats how they caught her as it states she wad searched at customs trying to get back on ship, then they searched her room afterwards. So by the looks of it the drugs were purchased on the island Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose City Cruiser Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 hours ago, monctonguy said: Here in Canada its legal trmw and you can fly within Canada with up to 30 grams(about 60-70 joints on you).....but lots of warnings not to take it anywhere outside of here on your person. US CBA will be asking questions regarding cannabis use. Any type of use ever in your life may result in a lifetime ban into the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 Yeah..i am well aware of that and its no issue for me...but it seems a little heavy handed to ask if ever used as many have at some point in their life at least tried it..even if they didn't inhale it..lol... I can think of a few Presidents who under that rule wouldn't be allowed back into their own country if that rule applied.....I am hoping cooler heads prevail...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose City Cruiser Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 For most Canadian travelers, it will be business as usual. Just use common sense. Never admit guilt or self-incriminate yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mja351 Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Sounds like a money grab to me. Something boss Hogg and RP Coltrane would pull on an out of town motorist at a speed trap. Yes it’s illegal but 4K for some paraphernalia and weed is steep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted October 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 23 minutes ago, mja351 said: Sounds like a money grab to me. Something boss Hogg and RP Coltrane would pull on an out of town motorist at a speed trap. Yes it’s illegal but 4K for some paraphernalia and weed is steep. Actually, she got off extremely easy! She could have done big time for INTERNATIONAL transportation of such paraphernalia and marijuana. She should be counting her lucky stars!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysea13 Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 may I remind some of the real danger involved in what some consider "just a joint" in other countries remember the case surrounding "The Midnight Express"years ago in Turkey I believe other countries have different views on westerners breaking there laws and most don't have to even sentence the violator just toss them in what we would consider a bus station toilet they consider a cell never (possibly)to see the states again I have been to Nassau many times and cant remember a time the conch shell vendors dockside didn't offer to sell me pot fortunately I have not had any interest in the weed for over 40 yrs but in my younger days I am sure I would have been sorely tempted more then once over the years on carny and RC I have been on my balcony or walking the hall and smelled the distinctive odor I have seen a whole party turned over to the Mexican police for indulging in use of the weed on the ship and underage drinking I personally lecture my children every time we cruise of the difference of laws in other lands knowing fool well how short the young memories can be if you love them teach them never take for granted they know look at what happened to the college boy in china for trying to get a souvenir from the hotel a simple political poster ultimately cost him his life when in other lands even lands we take for granted like the Bahamas be on our best behavior if you have to think about it don't do it and remember as it has been stated many times not everyone in these ports has our best interest in mind be careful stay alert and visible not everyone in the world loves us but as I saw stated earlier you cant fix stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 22 hours ago, princevaliantus said: Actually, she got off extremely easy! She could have done big time for INTERNATIONAL transportation of such paraphernalia and marijuana. She should be counting her lucky stars!! At no point in the story does it say she transported marijuana. It says pipes !! Chances are she was stopped at customes reboarding ship having bought marajuana on the island and this is why they searched her room also, doesnt make it right but we shouldnt class someone as an international drug smuggler when at no point in the story does it state that. No marajuana was found in her room so it must have been found on her when returning from island, thats not a smuggler thats a user Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted October 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Ray said: At no point in the story does it say she transported marijuana. It says pipes !! Chances are she was stopped at customes reboarding ship having bought marajuana on the island and this is why they searched her room also, doesnt make it right but we shouldnt class someone as an international drug smuggler when at no point in the story does it state that. No marajuana was found in her room so it must have been found on her when returning from island, thats not a smuggler thats a user I direct you to the title of the article which states, and I quote with emphasis "Royal Caribbean passenger arrested, fined $4,000 for marijuana possession". Moreover, I also direct you to the first paragraph which states, " An American cruise ship passenger was arrested in Bermuda Tuesday morning after she was caught with marijuana and drug paraphernalia." Since she was arrested and fined for "marijuana possession", one can deduce, since she traveled over international waters, she was transporting it on her person to another country whether knowledgeable or not. Am I missing something??? Since she admitted she was in the wrong and pled guilty to the lesser offense, the Magistrates’ Court went lenient on her. She could have (a/k/a probably or possibly) done big time for INTERNATIONAL transportation of such paraphernalia and marijuana IF they wanted to make an example of her. She should be counting her lucky stars!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellcee Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 This story was relayed to us by our tour guide in Bermuda. The tour guide was a former cop and explained to us what a big deal pot is to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, princevaliantus said: I direct you to the title of the article which states, and I quote with emphasis "Royal Caribbean passenger arrested, fined $4,000 for marijuana possession". Moreover, I also direct you to the first paragraph which states, " An American cruise ship passenger was arrested in Bermuda Tuesday morning after she was caught with marijuana and drug paraphernalia." Since she was arrested and fined for "marijuana possession", one can deduce, since she traveled over international waters, she was transporting it on her person to another country whether knowledgeable or not. Am I missing something??? Since she admitted she was in the wrong and pled guilty to the lesser offense, the Magistrates’ Court went lenient on her. She could have (a/k/a probably or possibly) done big time for INTERNATIONAL transportation of such paraphernalia and marijuana IF they wanted to make an example of her. She should be counting her lucky stars!! I agree completly she was fined for marijuana possesion but read the article clearly, it states that a grinder , cannabis oil and marajuana pipes were found in her room, there is no mention of actual marajuana being found in her room. Surely if they found it in her room they would have said so, to me this would imply that the marajuana was found at customs trying to reboard ship which gave customs reason to search her cabin. Dont get me wrong im in no way advocating the use or transportstion of any drugs but to me reading this article the marajuana was purchased on the island not transported to a foriegn country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mja351 Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Ray said: I agree completly she was fined for marijuana possesion but read the article clearly, it states that a grinder , cannabis oil and marajuana pipes were found in her room, there is no mention of actual marajuana being found in her room. Surely if they found it in her room they would have said so, to me this would imply that the marajuana was found at customs trying to reboard ship which gave customs reason to search her cabin. Dont get me wrong im in no way advocating the use or transportstion of any drugs but to me reading this article the marajuana was purchased on the island not transported to a foriegn country. From what I read she had it in her bag when she reboarded hence that initiated the search of her cabin. I sure hope Bermuda doesn’t disregard people’s civil rights and just search a cabin for no reason or probable cause. International smuggling? what a joke. Try a woman who has menstual cramps and uses it for her pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted October 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 18 minutes ago, mja351 said: From what I read she had it in her bag when she reboarded hence that initiated the search of her cabin. I sure hope Bermuda doesn’t disregard people’s civil rights and just search a cabin for no reason or probable cause. International smuggling? what a joke. Try a woman who has menstual cramps and uses it for her pain. You're applying U.S. law/principles in a foreign country which doesn't fly. She entered foreign waters/soil and the applicable laws in that Country will apply accordingly as will the search of her cabin on Anthem that is docked in foreign waters/soil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 34 minutes ago, princevaliantus said: You're applying U.S. law/principles in a foreign country which doesn't fly. She entered foreign waters/soil and the applicable laws in that Country will apply accordingly as will the search of her cabin on Anthem that is docked in foreign Agree with this, shouldnt matter where you go you should always obey the rules of the country, unless its the UK where you can do and say whatever you like and nothing gets done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mja351 Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 13 hours ago, Ray said: Agree with this, shouldnt matter where you go you should always obey the rules of the country, unless its the UK where you can do and say whatever you like and nothing gets done Buddy I live in New York City. You have nothing on us when it comes to that. Bureaucracy at its finest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted October 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 43 minutes ago, mja351 said: Buddy I live in New York City. You have nothing on us when it comes to that. Bureaucracy at its finest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 hours ago, mja351 said: Buddy I live in New York City. You have nothing on us when it comes to that. Bureaucracy at its finest Was in NYC last year , weird place lol going back there for 2 nights after cruise going to see john legend at MSG on the 3rd of Dec and take in the xmas displays and some shopping, great way to end a trip WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellcee Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Ray said: Was in NYC last year , weird place lol going back there for 2 nights after cruise going to see john legend at MSG on the 3rd of Dec and take in the xmas displays and some shopping, great way to end a trip I work across the street and somehow have never gone to a concert there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, ellcee said: I work across the street and somehow have never gone to a concert there. Will be my 2nd, also saw john legend last june. If its a place thats sells alcohol you work in then you may see me lol ellcee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mja351 Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 21 hours ago, Ray said: Will be my 2nd, also saw john legend last june. If its a place thats sells alcohol you work in then you may see me lol Saw my first concert at MSG. October 1982. Iron Maiden/Judas Priest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzywuzzy Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 Simply said, if you are gonna drop thousands on a vacation that you just can't enjoy without getting high, knowing it to be unlawful, then you have other problems. 4ensic and bcarney 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mworkman Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 On 10/20/2018 at 6:11 PM, Ray said: Will be my 2nd, also saw john legend last june. If its a place thats sells alcohol you work in then you may see me lol I didn't know the Scottish drink alcohol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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