smokeybandit Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 Definitely some interesting new and upgraded things on Hero that they didn't do on the previous three. ZeroZeroSeven, WAAAYTOOO, Matt and 2 others 5 Quote
ZeroZeroSeven Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 Interesting. If the marketing photos are accurate, the Treehouse Family Suites appear to be at the edge of Cloud 17? Quote
dupontracin24 Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 yes kinda its replacing the royal loft suite on the current ships. it is a on the opposite side of the shiop from cloud 17 Quote
BigKarl Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 Why now am I hearing the Bonny Tyler song "Holding out for a Hero" Jmccaffrey, Hoppy2BHere, ScottishRobbie and 1 other 1 3 Quote
Southern Dan Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 Adding a swim up bar in Hideaway is a wonderful idea. Snagged a screenshot from the video… Here’s a couple more I just saw… Jmccaffrey 1 Quote
WAAAYTOOO Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 I didn't think they allowed swim-up bars on board [American-based] ships. I would imagine it's a safety nightmare. I guess we'll see..... Nicholas Volta 1 Quote
Nicholas Volta Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 4 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: I didn't think they allowed swim-up bars on board [American-based] ships. I would imagine it's a safety nightmare. I guess we'll see..... How so? I personally never heard of it not being a safety risk. Quote
skywalk640 Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 Interesting that they're adding a swim-up bar to the Hideaway AND making Swim and Tonic 30% bigger. I feel like it makes more sense to move Swim and Tonic to the Hideaway once they made Swim and Tonic adult only. Overall, some nice changes, I just hope that they address the lack of shade in the Hideaway. Quote
twangster Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 30 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: I didn't think they allowed swim-up bars on board [American-based] ships. I would imagine it's a safety nightmare. I guess we'll see..... Swim and Tonic on both Icon and Star was converted to adult only last year. They are both very popular and packed every cruise. Quote
smokeybandit Posted March 30 Author Report Posted March 30 46 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: I didn't think they allowed swim-up bars on board [American-based] ships. I would imagine it's a safety nightmare. I guess we'll see..... They have those now on Icon and Star Quote
Ampurp85 Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 As much as I want to actually do an inaugural sailing, I don't see myself booking Hero. I'm still not a fan of Icon class even though the food options are awesome. Quote
smokeybandit Posted March 30 Author Report Posted March 30 1 hour ago, Ampurp85 said: I'm still not a fan of Icon class even though the food options are awesome. It's similar for us. By far the most amazing ship I've ever been on, just it doesn't fit us as much as Voyager/Freedom class do. Now, put Aquadome Market on Freedom.... Ampurp85, Jolly Ogre and USCG Teacher 1 2 Quote
WAAAYTOOO Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 1 hour ago, smokeybandit said: They have those now on Icon and Star lol. I just got off Icon. Guess I missed this. ScottishRobbie, Ogilthorpe and tonyfsu21 3 Quote
tonyfsu21 Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 2 hours ago, Nicholas Volta said: How so? I personally never heard of it not being a safety risk. The only safety risk I can see (other than turning one of the floating menus into a projectile weapon) would be spilling a strawberry daiquiri into the pool. Great bar by the way but ALWAYS packed. Nicholas Volta and Ogilthorpe 2 Quote
WAAAYTOOO Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 I guess it's just the safety engineer in me lingering from my working days....but the combination of alcohol consumption and water deep enough for someone to drown, do not seem like a combination that the insurers would want to accommodate. I guess (like all safety issues) until there is a problem, they will allow it. Truly, I'm surprised that the insurers allowed a swim-up bar on a cruise ship. Hopefully all will be well ! tonyfsu21, Ogilthorpe and Nicholas Volta 3 Quote
tonyfsu21 Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 3 minutes ago, tonyfsu21 said: The only safety risk I can see (other than turning one of the floating menus into a projectile weapon) would be spilling a strawberry daiquiri into the pool. Great bar by the way but ALWAYS packed. Oh, the fact that the swim and tonic appears empty despite my comment is not lost on me. This was AM prior to the bar opening. Southern Dan 1 Quote
tonyfsu21 Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 1 minute ago, WAAAYTOOO said: I guess it's just the safety engineer in me lingering from my working days....but the combination of alcohol consumption and water deep enough for someone to drown, do not seem like a combination that the insurers would want to accommodate. I guess (like all safety issues) until there is a problem, they will allow it. Truly, I'm surprised that the insurers allowed a swim-up bar on a cruise ship. Hopefully all will be well ! I agree, it’s a recipe for disaster but it seems to work. The water is also waste deep. WAAAYTOOO and Ogilthorpe 1 1 Quote
Jmccaffrey Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 I love these picture. RC keeps taking feedback from the older ships in this case ICON and made some GREAT adjustment. I can't wait to go on Gilley 1 Quote
JasonOasis Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 1 hour ago, WAAAYTOOO said: I guess it's just the safety engineer in me lingering from my working days....but the combination of alcohol consumption and water deep enough for someone to drown, do not seem like a combination that the insurers would want to accommodate. I guess (like all safety issues) until there is a problem, they will allow it. Truly, I'm surprised that the insurers allowed a swim-up bar on a cruise ship. Hopefully all will be well ! I looked closely at the upcoming swim up bar that will be on Hero and like others have pointed out it appears to be a larger version of the swim up bars on both Icon and Star call Swim & Tonic where the water is only waist deep depending on the height of the individual. I understand your concerns as anything more than a waist deep pool could be a recipe for disaster when talking about alcohol but I think limiting the pool to waist deep probably allowed Royal insurers to sign off on this larger swim up bar being installed on Hero. WAAAYTOOO and Ogilthorpe 2 Quote
USCG Teacher Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 1 hour ago, tonyfsu21 said: The water is also waste deep. This is a fantastic atomic typo. WAAAYTOOO, Ogilthorpe, Hoppy2BHere and 3 others 6 Quote
smokeybandit Posted March 30 Author Report Posted March 30 2 hours ago, tonyfsu21 said: The water is also waste deep. That's only on Carnival cruises. Waist deep elsewhere. BigKarl, JasonOasis, AshleyDillo and 2 others 4 1 Quote
tonyfsu21 Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 1 hour ago, USCG Teacher said: This is a fantastic atomic typo. Lol this is awesome and totally unintended! Ogilthorpe and USCG Teacher 2 Quote
steverk Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 Since ships are traditionally thought of as a she, shouldn't this be Heroine of the Seas? Ogilthorpe 1 Quote
Jmccaffrey Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 On 3/30/2026 at 5:19 PM, USCG Teacher said: This is a fantastic atomic typo. We have a CODE BROWN!!!!! Ogilthorpe 1 Quote
twangster Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 Looking at the "fast fact" infographics that Royal publishes, the four Icon class ships share the same basic figures such as gross tonnage, length, width and crew count. By one account, the official ship registrar, Star is stated to be 8cm longer than Icon. This appears to be suspect in my mind because a structure this size could shrink or grow a few centimeters based on temperature and sunlight. All else being equal, this data point has afforded Star the title of largest cruise ship. While the first three Icon class ships have 2,805 staterooms and a stated double occupancy capacity of 5,610 guests, Hero has grown to 2,814 cabins and a stated double occupancy capacity of 5,654 guests. All else being equal including the claim that Star is 0.02% longer than Icon, the increase in cabin count and double occupancy capacity appear to give Hero the opportunity to claim the largest cruise ship title if cabin count and capacity are used as tie breakers, pending the official ship registration of Legend and Hero. On a side note, it's curious how an additional 9 staterooms has increased the double occupancy capacity by 44 guests. Royal math? Pattycruise, Hoppy2BHere and WAAAYTOOO 2 1 Quote
AshleyDillo Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 52 minutes ago, twangster said: On a side note, it's curious how an additional 9 staterooms has increased the double occupancy capacity by 44 guests. Royal math? The treehouse holds 12 which is a +6 from the Royal Loft. But there's still a Royal Loft which holds 6, so that replaced something else that likely holds 4. So that's a net 8. Add that to 9 staterooms that hold 4, which is 36 guests. 36 + 8 = 44. Hoppy2BHere 1 Quote
twangster Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 13 minutes ago, AshleyDillo said: The treehouse holds 12 which is a +6 from the Royal Loft. But there's still a Royal Loft which holds 6, so that replaced something else that likely holds 4. So that's a net 8. Add that to 9 staterooms that hold 4, which is 36 guests. 36 + 8 = 44. Double occupancy is just that. Two in each available cabin, not what that cabin can accommodate over two per cabin. It's a standard hotel and cruise ship concept that has been around for decades. In the passenger vessel industry, double occupancy was sometimes called lower berth capacity, meaning even if a cabin had upper berths, it's lower berth capacity was still two. The first three Icon ships have 2,805 staterooms which at double occupancy equals 5,610. That math is simple. 2,805 X 2 = 5,610. This is the stated double occupancy capacity for the first three Icon class ships. Using the same conventional math, 2,814 staterooms at double occupancy equal 5,628. Yet by Royal math, 2,814 x 2 = 5,654. Ogilthorpe, Hoppy2BHere, bobroo and 1 other 1 3 Quote
AlmondFarmer Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 25 minutes ago, twangster said: Using the same conventional math, 2,814 staterooms at double occupancy equal 5,628. Yet by Royal math, 2,814 x 2 = 5,654. 5,654-5,628=26 Coincidently there are 12 Hideaway beds. 12x2=24 So the interesting thing is Royal math relies on an occupancy of three on 2 of the Hideaway beds….. Hoppy2BHere 1 Quote
Ogilthorpe Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 38 minutes ago, twangster said: Using the same conventional math, 2,814 staterooms at double occupancy equal 5,628. Yet by Royal math, 2,814 x 2 = 5,654. I am wondering if the double occupancy is 2 per bedroom. If there are thirteen 2 bedroom staterooms onboard, that could explain the math. Quote
twangster Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 21 minutes ago, AlmondFarmer said: 5,654-5,628=26 Coincidently there are 12 Hideaway beds. 12x2=24 So the interesting thing is Royal math relies on an occupancy of three on 2 of the Hideaway beds….. New to Hero... Hideaway Upside Down Pineapple Beds AlmondFarmer, SebagoSue, WAAAYTOOO and 3 others 1 4 1 Quote
smokeybandit Posted April 3 Author Report Posted April 3 1 minute ago, twangster said: New to Hero... Hideaway Upside Down Pineapple Beds In that case, Royal math could go either way. SebagoSue, Ogilthorpe, Hoppy2BHere and 2 others 5 Quote
Jolly Ogre Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 On 3/30/2026 at 1:48 PM, Ampurp85 said: As much as I want to actually do an inaugural sailing, I don't see myself booking Hero. I'm still not a fan of Icon class even though the food options are awesome. Yeah I won't "pay" for an Icon class ship cruise. I will use a casino comp for it. Quote
JimnKathy Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 On 3/30/2026 at 5:40 PM, steverk said: Heroine of the Seas? Marketed towards a VERY relaxed crowd, I suppose? WAAAYTOOO, steverk and Ogilthorpe 3 Quote
twangster Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Ogilthorpe said: I am wondering if the double occupancy is 2 per bedroom. If there are thirteen 2 bedroom staterooms onboard, that could explain the math. Then the first three Icon class ships would also use different math compared to what they do now. Also, the concept of a stateroom is an industry term for any passenger vessel. While a stateroom might have more than one bedroom, all guests are considered to be in that one stateroom. Each bedroom does not have a unique cabin number. Ogilthorpe 1 Quote
Ampurp85 Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 4 hours ago, Jolly Ogre said: Yeah I won't "pay" for an Icon class ship cruise. I will use a casino comp for it. This was what I did for last year's annual comp and after sailing Icon I know I wouldn't pay out of pocket for subsequent ships. Jolly Ogre, OCSC Mike, Ogilthorpe and 1 other 4 Quote
WAAAYTOOO Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 2 hours ago, Ampurp85 said: This was what I did for last year's annual comp and after sailing Icon I know I wouldn't pay out of pocket for subsequent ships. Same for us. I really loved Icon but no way would I pay full fare just to sail on it again. We have a Pinnacle milestone cruise coming up on Star in August and we will have our annual Prime cruises coming up later this month…so maybe Icon again for those or maybe something NOT sailing out of Miami instead…. Jolly Ogre, Ogilthorpe, Ampurp85 and 1 other 2 2 Quote
OCSC Mike Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 19 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: or maybe something NOT sailing out of Miami instead I hear Star in March 2027 has a very popular cruise with some pretty cool people onboard. We could meet up at an air conditioned bar like civilized people this time... just a thought. Ogilthorpe and Ampurp85 1 1 Quote
WAAAYTOOO Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 27 minutes ago, OCSC Mike said: I hear Star in March 2027 has a very popular cruise with some pretty cool people onboard. We could meet up at an air conditioned bar like civilized people this time... just a thought. Alas, I doubt very seriously that Star will be eligible for our [Prime] annuals this year. Icon ? Probably. Star ? Doubtful. OCSC Mike and Ogilthorpe 1 1 Quote
AshleyDillo Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 29 minutes ago, OCSC Mike said: I hear Star in March 2027 has a very popular cruise with some pretty cool people onboard. We could meet up at an air conditioned bar like civilized people this time... just a thought. Possibly a blackout week for both the milestone and prime cruises because of spring break, though. WAAAYTOOO, OCSC Mike and Ogilthorpe 2 1 Quote
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