pat8635 Posted November 2 Report Posted November 2 I can't seem to log into actual article, so am commenting here. If it were not Matt and orew reporting, I might assume bias or not all the facts. There are a few things that strike me. 1. Daughter is upset that drunk mom is her last memory, but did nothing to help mom or stop her from drinking. 2. I had a similar rail on a church balcony that I had to get over (in younger years) to get to some equipment. Being very athletic, getting over is one thing, but sitting on it? All my fellow 60 somethings sit on a fence rail by mounting it from other side. 3. There is no comment on how crowded bar was. She may have just been holding up a finger and they knew what she wanted. 4. Many Drinks are one oz. What was she drinking? She doesn't appear petite in pictures. Im a bit overweight and single alcohol drinks rarely even give me a buzz! 5. Again, where was her family. I hope this gets dismissed immediately and royal can recover legal fees and search and rescue fees! RCIfan1912, PhillyLady and TessFromFlorida 2 1 Quote
loki007 Posted November 2 Report Posted November 2 the story i saw was she was served 7 drinks over a period of 6 hours which i personally don't think is over serving. She and her daughter had their luggage stored on the balcony which is a little odd. When they got back to their room the mom went out on the balcony and sat on the railing, then lost her balance and fell over. Just a money grab by the family. RC will settle because its cheaper than fighting it. SweetPea, PhillyLady, RCIfan1912 and 1 other 2 2 Quote
pat8635 Posted November 2 Author Report Posted November 2 It raises our costs! I pray for a smart judge! Many times I've had that much! Never once been over served! Look at rail next time... at 66 getting up to sit on it, especially if she was over severed? Don't see it. RCIfan1912 and SweetPea 2 Quote
loki007 Posted November 3 Report Posted November 3 56 minutes ago, pat8635 said: It raises our costs! I pray for a smart judge! Many times I've had that much! Never once been over served! Look at rail next time... at 66 getting up to sit on it, especially if she was over severed? Don't see it. many times I've had that many before 2:00 pat8635 and SweetPea 1 1 Quote
smokeybandit Posted November 3 Report Posted November 3 Their claims are pretty absurd and really don't even make sense. Quote
Southern Dan Posted November 3 Report Posted November 3 31 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: Their claims are pretty absurd and really don't even make sense. Agreed, something isn’t adding up with these details. Still sad though. Quote
JoseNEO Posted November 3 Report Posted November 3 There is deffo some weird stuff going on with the claims and the story, I do not fault a grieving family from maybe feeling like the cruise line owes them something however it does seem to be one of those let us just hope they settle so we can get money kinda thing. All the best to the family though and I hope they can get through the difficult times. PhillyLady 1 Quote
Traveling Mike Posted November 3 Report Posted November 3 I do blame the family for filing claims. People have gotten to much into wanting to blame someone else for their actions. She choose to drink, then she choose to set on a railing. There is one person to blame and it is not the cruise line or the family. ScottishRobbie, Pooch, Mike.s and 9 others 9 1 2 Quote
Riley Posted November 3 Report Posted November 3 7 drinks over 6 hours assuming they are spaced out should not result in being drunk. Our system synthesizes alcohol such that a drink an hour (no matter what the kind of alcohol) is the recommended pace if you're drinking. NOTE: other factors such as medications will have an effect and that's going to come out at some point. If they are not spaced out (e.g., if she decided to line up 6 tequila shots) then anyone would be hammered. And yes, that would be an issue for the server but this issue assumes only one bartender. If she's at a bar where there are multiple bartenders plus table service? There's no way. I don't know if the screen on the bar's computers track a time stamp and create a flag (which isn't a bad idea for any bar but really hard to put into practice especially if someone else is also buying drinks) but bottom line it's a tragedy where yes, the daughter absolutely should have stepped in. Ogilthorpe and PhillyLady 1 1 Quote
smokeybandit Posted November 3 Report Posted November 3 I would think if she was doing shots like that the suit wouldn't have been so specific on the span of time between the 7 drinks PhillyLady and Ogilthorpe 1 1 Quote
teddy Posted November 3 Report Posted November 3 5 hours ago, Riley said: decided to line up 6 tequila shots I really don’t miss my 20s Hoppy2BHere and WAAAYTOOO 2 Quote
Geezer Of The Seas Posted November 3 Report Posted November 3 Still trying to comprehend the claim they put their luggage on the balcony to make room in the cabin. Who/what was under the bed? Science project? Mildew of the Seas? Ogilthorpe, tjcruisers, Freegirl and 1 other 1 3 Quote
smokeybandit Posted November 3 Report Posted November 3 2 hours ago, teddy said: I really don’t miss my 20s I miss my 20s. I don't miss being in my 20s. Or maybe that's the other way around. Hoppy2BHere, WAAAYTOOO, teddy and 2 others 2 3 Quote
Ryan79 Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 If this lawsuit works, I’m suing RC for a new wardrobe for over-serving me at the WJ and making my pants not fit anymore. It’s obviously their fault for not controlling how much food, I as an adult, consume. Freegirl, Hoppy2BHere, tjcruisers and 5 others 2 6 Quote
MdFormula350 Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 geez, no personal accountability. I had such a perfect day at cococay that I barely made to my room to pass out for the night. maybe I have a lawsuit since I missed the buffet for dinner? Quote
Ditchdoc Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 The only way to save people like this is to seal them up in barrel. Then plug the bung hole. Quote
tjcruisers Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 While tragic, many things stood out to me as this hit the news - luggage on the balcony, I've never heard of anybody doing - read that they needed another passenger to assist getting the mom back to the room because she couldn't walk. If that's the case, how was she coordinated enough to get up on the balcony railing. On the flip side if you were the daughter, why weren't you paying a little closer attention (myself if I was with somebody that inebriated as the daughter claims I wouldn't have let them on the balcony) - my understanding the coast guard was involved along with other ships. my understanding also is that if the coast guard is involved they take point and would be the one releasing the other ships from the search - on the flip side lets say Royal cut the mother off and refused to serve her, would the daughter then be suing because the got the unlimited drink package and they weren't being served? Ryan79 and Ogilthorpe 2 Quote
JimnKathy Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 Sounds like the lady may have suffered from a bad reaction to some medications she was taking. There are plenty of heart-related and pain-killing drugs that don't play well with alcohol, especially if one is drinking a higher than normal quantity within a relatively short period of time. Sadly, even aspirin and other OTC pain relievers can kill people if they drink too much. No doubt that a lot of these types of details will come out during the legal discovery process. It's too bad that folks don't take more responsibility for their own health. Prayers and condolences to her family members that miss her. Ogilthorpe, RCIfan1912 and Southern Dan 3 Quote
Smokey79 Posted November 5 Report Posted November 5 On 11/3/2025 at 10:34 AM, Riley said: 7 drinks over 6 hours assuming they are spaced out should not result in being drunk. Our system synthesizes alcohol such that a drink an hour (no matter what the kind of alcohol) is the recommended pace if you're drinking. NOTE: other factors such as medications will have an effect and that's going to come out at some point. If they are not spaced out (e.g., if she decided to line up 6 tequila shots) then anyone would be hammered. And yes, that would be an issue for the server but this issue assumes only one bartender. If she's at a bar where there are multiple bartenders plus table service? There's no way. I don't know if the screen on the bar's computers track a time stamp and create a flag (which isn't a bad idea for any bar but really hard to put into practice especially if someone else is also buying drinks) but bottom line it's a tragedy where yes, the daughter absolutely should have stepped in. I have been told by bartenders on more than one ship that there is a 15 min cool down before they can charge another drink to a sea pass card. Quote
Southern Dan Posted November 5 Report Posted November 5 52 minutes ago, Smokey79 said: I have been told by bartenders on more than one ship that there is a 15 min cool down before they can charge another drink to a sea pass card. I got two beers at different bars less than 5 minutes apart last cruise. Quote
Ryan79 Posted November 5 Report Posted November 5 15 minute cool down is either not a thing or rarely/never enforced. I’ve done enough shots in less than a few minutes to personally vouch for this. I’ve never once even witnessed anyone being refused a drink for a “cool down” period. Quote
smokeybandit Posted November 5 Report Posted November 5 I could see a 15 minute cool down if they suspect abuse of the package. Quote
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