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Royal Caribbean raises VOOM packages!!

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1 minute ago, Sabrinaklai said:

That is exactly my strategy these days. Book a JS and monitor especially around the 45-60 day window for drops to upgrade. Keeping my fingers crossed for a drop soon on Anthem for this March. That nice GLS you had is still available. One can dream...

Know dreaming all too well...

The Oasis cruise that leaves this Sunday has  the Grand "Loft" available, only asking $13k a person. Did try my luck booking a JS GTY, wound up with a JS assigned over a month ago.

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21 minutes ago, CGTLH said:

Know dreaming all too well...

The Oasis cruise that leaves this Sunday has  the Grand "Loft" available, only asking $13k a person. Did try my luck booking a JS GTY, wound up with a JS assigned over a month ago.

$13k pp? This is where I don't understand their strategy? Are there people out there who will book that last minute and pay that? If not then why is that still so high?

i should tell hubby...GLS on Anthem for our sailing is sitting at $6k pp Canadian and KSF. Maybe I can tell him that's a steal of a deal 😂

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I just booked another cruise in March.  Voom Surf and Stream is $15.99 in the cruise planner.  That makes three ships I've got booked for early 2018 with Voom S&S on 'sale' at $15.99 with 20% off.

On Indy I picked up a Voom brochure.  Like Voom brochures on other ships it was printed on heavier bonded paper, not like the normal copy paper used on board.  This told me it came from corporate rather than the on board printer.  Guess this means the Voom price increase is official :(

Here it is attached:

Voom On Board.PDF

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2 hours ago, Sabrinaklai said:

Cruising master...aka..next Super Mario...or should we start saying "Super Twangster", you must share the secret of your ways...

Easy.  I don't stay in suites that often.  Don't get me wrong, I loved the loft suites I did stay in, but for that kind of money I've cruised all year in anything from inside to balconies.

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1 hour ago, twangster said:

Easy.  I don't stay in suites that often.  Don't get me wrong, I loved the loft suites I did stay in, but for that kind of money I've cruised all year in anything from inside to balconies.

Oh I wasn't even thinking of suites. To be able to cruise so often....I envy you. Have fun!

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4 hours ago, CGTLH said:

Wonder with the onboard price increase if the Diamond discount/free day value will be increased.

Guess I'll find out Sunday on Oasis.

Diamond discount will be $22.99 for your free day. I.E., Surf & Stream pckge, $19.99 X 7 days = $139.93 - $22.99 one day discount = $116.94 Total price for one device. If you are D+, you get double discount. I was on Rhapsody last week and that is what we were explained and what I paid.

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1 hour ago, princevaliantus said:

Diamond discount will be $22.99 for your free day. I.E., Surf & Stream pckge, $19.99 X 7 days = $139.93 - $22.99 one day discount = $116.94 Total price for one device. If you are D+, you get double discount. I was on Rhapsody last week and that is what we were explained and what I paid.

That's what I figured.

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The Diamond discount isn't as attractive as the 20% pre-cruise discount unless you wait until day 2 to buy it.

My new strategy will often be waiting until day 2 to purchase Voom.

Day 1 at port I have cell phone coverage and can tether a PC if needed.  If we leave port ~ 4pm then it's just 8 hours until midnight. Dinner and the Welcome Aboard show consume much of those 8 hours so waiting to purchase until day 2 has negligible effect. 

7 Nights

On board - 7 * $19.99 = $139.93 - $22.99 Diamond discount = $116.94

Pre-cruise - 7 * $15.99 = $111.93

Best buy - On board Day 2 -  6 * $19.99 = $119.94 - $22.99 Diamond discount = $96.95

9 Nights

On board - 9 * $19.99 = $179.91 - $22.99 Diamond discount = $156.92

Pre-cruise - 9 * $15.99 = $143.91

Best buy - On board Day 2 -  8 * $19.99 = $159.92 - $22.99 Diamond discount = $136.93

12 Nights

On board - 12 * $19.99 = $239.88 - $22.99 Diamond discount = $216.89

On board Day 2 -  11 * $19.99 = $219.89 - $22.99 Diamond discount = $196.90

Best buy - Pre-cruise - 12 * $15.99 = $191.88

 

Diamond discount is effectively between 9.6% and 28.8% based on cruise length.  Longer cruise yield less effective discount.

For Platinum and Emerald with 15% off on board prices the result is pretty close to the same - best buy is to wait until day 2. 

For anything longer than 7 nights the Platinum and Emerald discount is better than the Diamond discount.  For 12 night cruises the Gold discount is better than Diamond discount.  

Waiting to day 3 will yield even higher savings.

Length of Cruise       Effective Diamond Voom Discount

            4                                         28.8%

            5                                          23%

            6                                         19.2%

            7                                         16.4%

            8                                         14.4%

            9                                         12.8%

           10                                        11.5%

           11                                        10.5%

           12                                         9.6%

Gold on board Voom discount 10%

Platinum/Emerald on board Voom discount 15%

Typical cruise planner advance purchase discount 20%

 

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On 1/2/2018 at 8:49 PM, Sabrinaklai said:

$13k pp? This is where I don't understand their strategy? Are there people out there who will book that last minute and pay that? If not then why is that still so high?

I have never understood this..   For example, you would think that any empty seats on an international flight would either remain at the same price, or maybe a little discount.. but those seats are normally 5-10 times more expensive.  I know one day soon I need to do an urgent flight home for my parents, but 5k for a next day economy that is normally $700 is ridiculous. 

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On ‎1‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 8:49 PM, Sabrinaklai said:

$13k pp? This is where I don't understand their strategy? Are there people out there who will book that last minute and pay that? If not then why is that still so high?

i should tell hubby...GLS on Anthem for our sailing is sitting at $6k pp Canadian and KSF. Maybe I can tell him that's a steal of a deal 😂

What's surprising to me is that there are so FEW of these very expensive suites available at the last minute.  That means that people are swooping them up early even though they must be purchased on a non-refundable deposit basis.  If Royal can keep these $10 - $15K PP suites sold on all of these ships then more power to 'em.  It shows that the top end price point has not yet been reached.  If it had, there would be more of these high end suites available.  These prices just keep climbing and climbing.  The 2 BR ATS are now more than double what we paid for our first one back in Feb. 2016.

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With today's sale some of my cruise Voom pricing has dropped and it's all over the place.  

All prices below are in the cruise planner for Surf & Stream per day.  None have the discount banner graphic so you don't know what percentage off the new pricing is based on.  

Anthem January $15.99

Liberty February $13.99

Serenade March $15.99

Explorer June $12.59

Symphony October $11.99

Someone in IT in Miramar must have brought a bottle of Bailey's to work today for the coffee.

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I looked at my future Liberty cruise (July 2018) and it was $13.99, banner says 30% has the big savings banner across the top of page

Freedom (October 2018) $14.39, banner says 20%.

Allure (January 2019), no price

Anthem (July 2019 Group cruise), no price

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3 hours ago, WAAAYTOOO said:

What's surprising to me is that there are so FEW of these very expensive suites available at the last minute.  That means that people are swooping them up early even though they must be purchased on a non-refundable deposit basis.  If Royal can keep these $10 - $15K PP suites sold on all of these ships then more power to 'em.  It shows that the top end price point has not yet been reached.  If it had, there would be more of these high end suites available.  These prices just keep climbing and climbing.  The 2 BR ATS are now more than double what we paid for our first one back in Feb. 2016.

Realistically for us I think it's going to have to be one of those years where we don't cruise much and then we can dump a bit more to try Star class....

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5 hours ago, Sabrinaklai said:

Realistically for us I think it's going to have to be one of those years where we don't cruise much and then we can dump a bit more to try Star class....

I have never published this before, but this is what I got my Star Loft Suite (TL code) on Allure, January 13, 2019 - $4900/PP = $9800 total, found this deal Late May of this year.

Go the week before, 12/30/2018 and it is $12K/PP, week's after, 1/27/2019 and 2/10/2019 and they are $10K/pp

So @Sabrinaklai , I either just got extremely lucky and got the cheap price or RCCL screwed up, I wasn't looking for this but just shopping around and stumbled over, figured I couldn't pass it up. So moral is to continue to watch pricing as you say you plan on doing.

This will probably be the one and only time I get this, but having the Butler was on my Wife's bucket list...

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23 minutes ago, twangster said:

Don't cruise as much?!?

I almost choked on my drink when I read this...

Ha! This coming from the guy who cruises at least once a month!

Honestly, this is a big cruise year for us. From August 2017-July 2018 we have/had 4 cruises booked and the one we just took in December we paid for my parents too so that's actually 5. We planned this a long time in advance and there's no way I can do this if I did not have this year off from teaching. That being said, there's no way Star class is doable this year but now that I know from @tiny260's suggestion I will have a different game plan for my next year off teaching. Hopefully Star class doesn't go through the roof by then. 

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2 hours ago, tiny260 said:

I have never published this before, but this is what I got my Star Loft Suite (TL code) on Allure, January 13, 2019 - $4900/PP = $9800 total, found this deal Late May of this year.

That's how I've managed Sky Class three times - lucking into a deal off peak.  I think the L1 loft suite on Allure this past May was around $5k total when other times it's nearly that per person.  

Unfortunately with @Sabrinaklai being a teacher it forces them to cruise in peak times.   

The mid to late January time frame has often had good deals year after year.  Much like early December and parts of May.

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2 hours ago, tiny260 said:

I have never published this before, but this is what I got my Star Loft Suite (TL code) on Allure, January 13, 2019 - $4900/PP = $9800 total, found this deal Late May of this year.

Go the week before, 12/30/2018 and it is $12K/PP, week's after, 1/27/2019 and 2/10/2019 and they are $10K/pp

So @Sabrinaklai , I either just got extremely lucky and got the cheap price or RCCL screwed up, I wasn't looking for this but just shopping around and stumbled over, figured I couldn't pass it up. So moral is to continue to watch pricing as you say you plan on doing.

This will probably be the one and only time I get this, but having the Butler was on my Wife's bucket list...

Tell your wife she is lucky! It's on my bucket list too lol amongst many others.

Interestingly enough, for our cruise on Anthem in March the GLS is also sitting around that price $4851pp. And it has been for a while. And to add to what @WAAAYTOOO was saying, a few days ago the RLS just popped up from nowhere for $7000 something pp. So someone must have had that and let it go even with the NRD. I've been looking just for "research" and there are certain dips in price in Star class on Oasis class and Anthem. Generally Anthem Star class is cheaper than Oasis class but that is probably expected. But like I mentioned to @twangster in the other post, this year is totally not doable for us, unless the upgrade fairy comes along. But since I have yet to even win anything from Starbucks for Life, I am not holding my breath. But my research, and your tips, lead me to believe there is still hope 😊

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10 minutes ago, twangster said:

Changing topics for a moment, with 4 cruises in 12 months have you considered an annual travel insurance plan?  The one I just bought isn't calendar year (Jan - Jan) but from the month coverage begins and for 12 months after.  Sure beats buying insurance each time.    

While shopping the other day I came across a Canadian version.  If you purchase with coverage starting in Aug. '17 you would be covered through Aug. '18.

Hmm...good point. I will have to look into it the next big vacation year. Thanks!

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3 hours ago, tiny260 said:

I have never published this before, but this is what I got my Star Loft Suite (TL code) on Allure, January 13, 2019 - $4900/PP = $9800 total, found this deal Late May of this year.

Go the week before, 12/30/2018 and it is $12K/PP, week's after, 1/27/2019 and 2/10/2019 and they are $10K/pp

Just curious....how does your wife make this happen when she works in a school?  Is January a break where you are?

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