Guest toodle68 Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 1 hour ago, EmersonNZ said: I imagine other countries will probably do the same in the future Well, probably all except the US.. something you can say about many social issues these days :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris besanson Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Ok I wonder if the person who actually caused the fire was drunk , there's an idea let's take all alcohol off the ships! that way we can do away with the rudeness the sexist remarks and the other crap comes with drunks.? whenismynextcruise and Geema 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocLC Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Chris besanson said: Ok I wonder if the person who actually caused the fire was drunk , there's an idea let's take all alcohol off the ships! that way we can do away with the rudeness the sexist remarks and the other crap comes with drunks.? One of the reports actually suggest that the cigarette was extinguished but still smoldering enough that it caused a fire afterwards. The other theory is that it was flicked overboard and that the plastic furniture and partitions were easily combustible. Add to the fact that the balconies are wedding cake style with lower balconies jutting out farther than upper balconies, there were plenty of balconies to catch the butt if it was actually flicked overboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGunny Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 Isn't it wonderful that Empress of the Seas has a non-smoking casino? We can actually walk through it vice circumventing it. Fortunately, in America smoking is a generational thing. As soon as the WWII, Korea, and now the Vietnam generation dies off, so will the number of people that smoke. The younger crowd realizes the perils of smoking and don't want anything to do with it as they want to live longer. Nothing good comes from it (other than increased dividends from companies that foster it) yet many problems incur. The way to curb this is by taxing tobacco so it becomes un-affordable. I've lost two parents due to smoking, as well as many uncles, aunts, and cousins. One due exclusively to second hand smoke. Yeah, it's my pet peeve. We all have them. I would welcome a non smoking ship(s) in RCCL and pray they do realize the harm smoking causes and prototypes the concept. They also need to enforce this on the crew. My $.02. EmersonNZ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geema Posted August 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 18 hours ago, DaGunny said: Isn't it wonderful that Empress of the Seas has a non-smoking casino? We can actually walk through it vice circumventing it. Fortunately, in America smoking is a generational thing. As soon as the WWII, Korea, and now the Vietnam generation dies off, so will the number of people that smoke. The younger crowd realizes the perils of smoking and don't want anything to do with it as they want to live longer. Nothing good comes from it (other than increased dividends from companies that foster it) yet many problems incur. The way to curb this is by taxing tobacco so it becomes un-affordable. I've lost two parents due to smoking, as well as many uncles, aunts, and cousins. One due exclusively to second hand smoke. Yeah, it's my pet peeve. We all have them. I would welcome a non smoking ship(s) in RCCL and pray they do realize the harm smoking causes and prototypes the concept. They also need to enforce this on the crew. My $.02. I somewhat agree with you. However, I think if a cruise line was to go totally non smoking, they would be out of business shortly...there are still a lot of smokers out there that cruise. Also, I detest heavy drinking. Maybe they should tax booze to make that unaffordable. I think the only happy medium is to have a smoking section...casino and 1 deck....and a drinking section...maybe just 1 or 2 bars instead of the number they have now. JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constable145 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 On 2017-07-26 at 3:40 PM, Geema said: Is there any truth to the rumor that RCCL is thinking of going 100% non-smoking? I wish EmersonNZ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy9271 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Hubby and I and my best friend are all smokers. If Royal goes non-smoking, I will change cruise lines. Geema 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Ships should close down the buffets and limit the food they serve you based on some of the arguments about smoking on here. Or maybe tax the buffet or charge high rates for anything over your daily 2000 calorie intake. Obesity is just as bad or worse than smoking on your body and the effect on our health care system. So really, lets stop being so PC and compromise and get along.. It doesn't HAVE to be one way or no way......people used to be able to co exist......nowdays not so much. As for young people not smoking as much?!....not my observations when I travel both in Canada and the US and the Caribbean. ellcee and Geema 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianAlt Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 50 minutes ago, monctonguy said: So really, lets stop being so PC and compromise and get along.. It doesn't HAVE to be one way or no way......people used to be able to co exist......nowdays not so much. You can't compare smoking to eating. Does what someone eats really affect you? Or affect you to the level of someone smoking in your vicinity? Larry Hagman, who supposedly wasn't a very nice person, used to carry with him a small bottle of bubbles. While people were smoking in his vicinity he would blow bubbles in theirs. Would that be acceptable to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Its not the same I know.... I was mainly referring to some of the comments about how younger people don't smoke now and people want to live longer and the unhealthy side of it. Plus, there is about 90% of the ship smoke free to its not hard to avoid it. And yes, if they want to have a bubble blowing section of the ship sure....I will just avoid it....pretty simple. Again, like I have stated before..I don't know how people ever lived before...now everyone wants to live in their own bubble when it comes to so much. If its that big a deal for you when you travel, then don't travel or pick a different type of vacation. Noone is forcing you to take a cruise. And yes, your overeating at the buffet does affect me and my health care system and access.....so there is an indirect affect..just like smoking. Geema 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianAlt Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 I'm personally fine with there being smoking sections. I'm fine with the way things are today. I often walk on "that side" of the pool deck and say to myself, "ugh, why didn't I walk on the other side?" But I live with it and I think those that want to smoke should feel free to do it there. ellcee, RestingBird, Geema and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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