Jjohnb Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Apologies if this has already been discussed. I just noticed that RC has Passion ots and Pulse ots registered to it. Both ships have IMO numbers assigned to them. Would they have IMO numbers assigned if they were just possible future names? I know it's a stretch, could these be the names of ICON 2 and 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjohnb Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Actually looks to be old outdated information. It looks like these names were discussed back in 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonCruiser Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Matt has written about this a couple time round about when a new ship is being discussed. Royal (and probably a lot of big corporations) tend to trademark names even if they don't have a thing to attribute them to yet. Same with ship names. There's actually a pretty decently sized list of trademarked "of the seas" names that will probably never see the light of day: https://uspto.report/company/Royal-Caribbean-Cruises-L-T-D/page/of the seas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjohnb Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, CrimsonCruiser said: Matt has written about this a couple time round about when a new ship is being discussed. Royal (and probably a lot of big corporations) tend to trademark names even if they don't have a thing to attribute them to yet. Same with ship names. There's actually a pretty decently sized list of trademarked "of the seas" names that will probably never see the light of day: https://uspto.report/company/Royal-Caribbean-Cruises-L-T-D/page/of the seas What's odd with these is that an IMO number was actually assigned: Passion ots IMO number is 1112098 Pulse ots IMO number is 1112145 https://intlreg.org/2019/12/27/why-imo-number-is-important-for-vessels/#:~:text=In particular%2C the IMO number,construction%2C generally upon keel laying. Based upon the last time Trademarks were applied for, it does appear these are no longer being considered, it just odd an IMO was assigned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonCruiser Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 34 minutes ago, Jjohnb said: What's odd with these is that an IMO number was actually assigned: Passion ots IMO number is 1112098 Pulse ots IMO number is 1112145 https://intlreg.org/2019/12/27/why-imo-number-is-important-for-vessels/#:~:text=In particular%2C the IMO number,construction%2C generally upon keel laying. Ohhh...hmm...and I google the number and it even shows up as a ship on Ship Traffic but unsurprisingly i can't see it sailing anywhere. Supposedly they were both supposed to be the same size as Quantum Class ships so maybe they were scrapped Quantum-Ultra Classes like Odyssey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjohnb Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, CrimsonCruiser said: Ohhh...hmm...and I google the number and it even shows up as a ship on Ship Traffic but unsurprisingly i can't see it sailing anywhere. Supposedly they were both supposed to be the same size as Quantum Class ships so maybe they were scrapped Quantum-Ultra Classes like Odyssey? They even show up in the following listing with all of the other existing and under construction RC ships: https://www.marinevesseltraffic.com/ROYAL-CARIBBEAN-INT/cruise-ships-tracker My best guess is they were actual planned names for Quantum Class ships and were changed at the last minute (after keel laying but before reveling the name (most likely)) or possibly the names for a sixth and/or seventh Quantum Class ship which was/were never ordered due to the class never really being as popular as RC had hoped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjohnb Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 18 minutes ago, Jjohnb said: They even show up in the following listing with all of the other existing and under construction RC ships: https://www.marinevesseltraffic.com/ROYAL-CARIBBEAN-INT/cruise-ships-tracker Also interesting, if you zoom out on the Marine Vessel Traffic map the Empress shows up as she is still sailing for an Indian cruise line. She may not be as big or have all the bells and whistles but she'll always be one of my favorite ships along with the Sovereign! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Passion of the Seas sounds like a Bliss cruise. Jjohnb, CrimsonCruiser, Rogillioville and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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