Blulady Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 Has anyone here heard about this? On another board, someone says they were talking to the CD on Allure and were told that the Jazz on 4 clubs on all Oasis class ships are going to be removed and turned into smoke free casino space. I never go into the casino due to the smoke, so this might be nice. It also may just be a result of bean counting and the elimination of live entertainment. PPPJJ-GCVAB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, Blulady said: Has anyone here heard about this? On another board, someone says they were talking to the CD on Allure and were told that the Jazz on 4 clubs on all Oasis class ships are going to be removed and turned into smoke free casino space. I never go into the casino due to the smoke, so this might be nice. It also may just be a result of bean counting and the elimination of live entertainment. This would be amazing if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blulady Posted January 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ampurp85 said: This would be amazing if true. I think so as well. I think the Jazz on 4 is a lovely space, but every time I've gone in when there wasn't a game going on, it seemed deserted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, Blulady said: I think so as well. I think the Jazz on 4 is a lovely space, but every time I've gone in when there wasn't a game going on, it seemed deserted. I was just there on Oasis and maybe 6 people in total. The ship was max capacity too, so I expected more people. Beautiful layout but definitely underused. Blulady, PPPJJ-GCVAB and WAAAYTOOO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatyBoaty Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 Loved Jazz on 4 on Oasis and Allure. So cool to have a space devoted to Jazz and such a great space too. But same experience-just not many people there at all. Could be the writing on the wall that they didn’t even bother putting one on Wonder? kspam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smakl70 Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 It's our favorite spot so I hope this isn't true. Most nights it does fill up once the music starts, in my experience. SebagoSue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeMTL Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 Why don't they just get rid of smoking in their casinos, seems really behind the times FloatyBoaty, CruiseGus, Blulady and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheeler825 Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, mikeMTL said: Why don't they just get rid of smoking in their casinos, seems really behind the times I think part of the problem is that they still need to have smoking areas. I don't smoke except the occasional cigar, but others do. Just because this part of the world has done well eliminating most smoking, doesn't mean that other parts of the world don't still smoke a lot. But overall, yeah it'd be cool if theyd get rid of smoking in the casino. I've enjoyed local casinos a lot more without smoking. Blulady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Wheeler825 said: I think part of the problem is that they still need to have smoking areas. I don't smoke except the occasional cigar, but others do. Just because this part of the world has done well eliminating most smoking, doesn't mean that other parts of the world don't still smoke a lot. But overall, yeah it'd be cool if theyd get rid of smoking in the casino. I've enjoyed local casinos a lot more without smoking. Other cruise lines have smoke free casinos. I guess Royal is trying to pander to smoking gamblers trying to draw them away from the other cruise lines that have gone smoke free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobroo Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 How about this hypothetical??? Jazz on 4 is a fairly small space square footage wise and is physically divorced by the ice rink from Casino Royale and it's amenities (the cage, the bar, alternate casino staff, the washrooms) but let's say Casino Royale woke up, found out it was 2023, and installed a non-smoking High Limit Room in the jazz club space. A high limit room would be space appropriate. While I think Royal should have added this type of action years ago and has been missing out on $$$ because they haven't, it means they would have to add cameras and security. It means they would have to train and trust certain elite dealers to the higher action. It means they would have to buy new tables and although all of Casino Royale is currently replacing and updating most of their slots; they for some reason view buying new tables or new layouts as though it were a mountain they do not want to climb. As much as I'd like to see this occur, I think there are a lot of obstacles to it being a really successful space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrznTxn Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 On the Allure cruise this past week, this change was brought up at the officers meet and greet and they said it was going to happen by April/May time frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 7 hours ago, bobroo said: How about this hypothetical??? Jazz on 4 is a fairly small space square footage wise and is physically divorced by the ice rink from Casino Royale and it's amenities (the cage, the bar, alternate casino staff, the washrooms) but let's say Casino Royale woke up, found out it was 2023, and installed a non-smoking High Limit Room in the jazz club space. A high limit room would be space appropriate. That's basically what they did on Wonder. It was originally called the Golden Room and slated to be the separate high rollers room for the Asian market. They had to pivot when the ship got switched to sailing out of the US and it became a non-smoking annex. They have a cage in there, a mini buffet line and a casino host desk. Small selection of slots and video poker machines and roulette, Ultimate and blackjack tables. bobroo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 Royal ships have smoking lounges with gambling offered. Now apparently they will have a dedicated gambling space too. DJsMrs, Skippy67, CruiseGus and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phd1003 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 12 hours ago, Blulady said: Has anyone here heard about this? On another board, someone says they were talking to the CD on Allure and were told that the Jazz on 4 clubs on all Oasis class ships are going to be removed and turned into smoke free casino space. I never go into the casino due to the smoke, so this might be nice. It also may just be a result of bean counting and the elimination of live entertainment. I'd like it better if the smaller Jazz club was the smoking casino and the main casino went smoke free, but that's just me... Blulady, Freegirl, Villageidiot and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deButler Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 I have not been on a boat yet that has a Jazz on 4 club but I am very much looking forward to frequenting it on our upcoming TA on Symphony in March. I do however frequent the casino a lot more often and while I am not offended by the smoke I certainly won’t mind if they dedicate a larger portion of it to be smoke free. It’s definitely a balancing act to maximize customer usage in all available spaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobroo Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 19 hours ago, AshleyDillo said: That's basically what they did on Wonder. It was originally called the Golden Room and slated to be the separate high rollers room for the Asian market. They had to pivot when the ship got switched to sailing out of the US and it became a non-smoking annex. They have a cage in there, a mini buffet line and a casino host desk. Small selection of slots and video poker machines and roulette, Ultimate and blackjack tables. Ooooh! Haven't been on Wonder yet and was unaware. Thanks for updating all of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharonw Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 It is showing up on my husbands app as being changed to no smoking section. I updated my app and it is still not showing. Will be on tomorrow and will find out. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keanoknick Posted April 26, 2023 Report Share Posted April 26, 2023 Saw in another group that Jazz on 4, on the Allure has been completely converted to non smoking casino area, and is up and running. Mary Sue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseGus Posted April 26, 2023 Report Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Keanoknick said: Saw in another group that Jazz on 4, on the Allure has been completely converted to non smoking casino area, and is up and running. it is, I was in there last night Keanoknick and Mary Sue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottD Posted April 26, 2023 Report Share Posted April 26, 2023 On 4/22/2023 at 10:29 AM, Sharonw said: It is showing up on my husbands app as being changed to no smoking section. I updated my app and it is still not showing. Will be on tomorrow and will find out. Yeah it changed over on my app when I updated, also! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floski Posted April 26, 2023 Report Share Posted April 26, 2023 I used to love Jazz On 4 - one of my favorite places to see live music in the evening. Siiiiiigh kspam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smakl70 Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 Jazz was one of our favorite places so last week on Oasis we walked by to see how crowded the new casino was. Literally 1 person was in there gambling. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 Sounds like finally we can put to rest all these smoking and smoky casino threads now...all the gamblers who wanted smoke free casino got their wish.....better come out in droves and fill that room up to make it worth while for Royal! I certainly would not want to see that fail and then have to read hundreds of more messages about people wished Royal had smoke free casinos......lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailTooMuch Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 I have been in the non-smoking casino on the Wonder and it is a great place for those of us that do not smoke. I am a former smoker and found the main casino is still a bit much even in the non-smoking sections. What I noticed was several people coming in the casino to smoke that aren't playing games or slots. Just too lazy to go up to the upper deck outside where a smoking section has been designated. This contributes to the already heavy smoke in the casino the air handlers are unable to process. Since it was new there weren't many people in the small casino as many think it is for high rollers. As more people become aware it will get much busier. Maybe Royal can increase the air handler capacity in the casino to ease the smoking situation and increase revenue. But what do I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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