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Jazz on 4 Elimination - Smoke Free Casino?


Blulady

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Has anyone here heard about this?  On another board, someone says they were talking to the CD on Allure and were told that the Jazz on 4 clubs on all Oasis class ships are going to be removed and turned into smoke free casino space.  I never go into the casino due to the smoke, so this might be nice.  It also may just be a result of bean counting and the elimination of live entertainment.  

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13 minutes ago, Blulady said:

Has anyone here heard about this?  On another board, someone says they were talking to the CD on Allure and were told that the Jazz on 4 clubs on all Oasis class ships are going to be removed and turned into smoke free casino space.  I never go into the casino due to the smoke, so this might be nice.  It also may just be a result of bean counting and the elimination of live entertainment.  

This would be amazing if true. 

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13 minutes ago, Blulady said:

I think so as well.  I think the Jazz on 4 is a lovely space, but every time I've gone in when there wasn't a game going on, it seemed deserted.

 

I was just there on Oasis and maybe 6 people in total. The ship was max capacity too, so I expected more people. Beautiful layout but definitely underused. 

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16 minutes ago, mikeMTL said:

Why don't they just get rid of smoking in their casinos, seems really behind the times

I think part of the problem is that they still need to have smoking areas.  I don't smoke except the occasional cigar, but others do.  Just because this part of the world has done well eliminating most smoking, doesn't mean that other parts of the world don't still smoke a lot.  But overall, yeah it'd be cool if theyd get rid of smoking in the casino.  I've enjoyed local casinos a lot more without smoking.

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1 hour ago, Wheeler825 said:

I think part of the problem is that they still need to have smoking areas.  I don't smoke except the occasional cigar, but others do.  Just because this part of the world has done well eliminating most smoking, doesn't mean that other parts of the world don't still smoke a lot.  But overall, yeah it'd be cool if theyd get rid of smoking in the casino.  I've enjoyed local casinos a lot more without smoking.

Other cruise lines have smoke free casinos.  

I guess Royal is trying to pander to smoking gamblers trying to draw them away from the other cruise lines that have gone smoke free.  

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How about this hypothetical??? Jazz on 4 is a fairly small space square footage wise and is physically divorced by the ice rink from Casino Royale and it's amenities (the cage, the bar, alternate casino staff, the washrooms) but let's say Casino Royale woke up, found out it was 2023, and installed a non-smoking High Limit Room in the jazz club space. A high limit room would be space appropriate.

While I think Royal should have added this type of action years ago and has been missing out on $$$ because they haven't, it means they would have to add cameras and security. It means they would have to train and trust certain elite dealers to the higher action. It means they would have to buy new tables and although all of Casino Royale is currently replacing and updating most of their slots; they for some reason view buying new tables or new layouts as though it were a mountain they do not want to climb. 

As much as I'd like to see this occur, I think there are a lot of obstacles to it being a really successful space.

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, bobroo said:

How about this hypothetical??? Jazz on 4 is a fairly small space square footage wise and is physically divorced by the ice rink from Casino Royale and it's amenities (the cage, the bar, alternate casino staff, the washrooms) but let's say Casino Royale woke up, found out it was 2023, and installed a non-smoking High Limit Room in the jazz club space. A high limit room would be space appropriate.

That's basically what they did on Wonder. It was originally called the Golden Room and slated to be the separate high rollers room for the Asian market. They had to pivot when the ship got switched to sailing out of the US and it became a non-smoking annex. They have a cage in there, a mini buffet line and a casino host desk. Small selection of slots and video poker machines and roulette, Ultimate and blackjack tables.

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12 hours ago, Blulady said:

Has anyone here heard about this?  On another board, someone says they were talking to the CD on Allure and were told that the Jazz on 4 clubs on all Oasis class ships are going to be removed and turned into smoke free casino space.  I never go into the casino due to the smoke, so this might be nice.  It also may just be a result of bean counting and the elimination of live entertainment.  

I'd like it better if the smaller Jazz club was the smoking casino and the main casino went smoke free, but that's just me...

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I have not been on a boat yet that has a Jazz on 4 club but I am very much looking forward to frequenting it on our upcoming TA on Symphony in March. I do however frequent the casino a lot more often and while I am not offended by the smoke I certainly won’t mind if they dedicate a larger portion of it to be smoke free. It’s definitely a balancing act to maximize customer usage in all available spaces. 

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19 hours ago, AshleyDillo said:

That's basically what they did on Wonder. It was originally called the Golden Room and slated to be the separate high rollers room for the Asian market. They had to pivot when the ship got switched to sailing out of the US and it became a non-smoking annex. They have a cage in there, a mini buffet line and a casino host desk. Small selection of slots and video poker machines and roulette, Ultimate and blackjack tables.

Ooooh! Haven't been on Wonder yet and was unaware. Thanks for updating all of us.

 

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  • 2 months later...
On 4/22/2023 at 10:29 AM, Sharonw said:

It is showing up on my husbands app as being changed to no smoking section. I updated my app and it is still not showing. Will be on tomorrow and will find out.

Yeah it changed over on my app when I updated, also! 

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Sounds like finally we can put to rest all these smoking and smoky casino threads now...all the gamblers who wanted  smoke free casino got their wish.....better come out in droves and fill that room up to make it worth while for Royal!

 

I certainly would not want to see that fail and then have to read hundreds of more messages about people wished Royal had smoke free casinos...🙄...lol

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I have been in the non-smoking casino on the Wonder and it is a great place for those of us that do not smoke.  I am a former smoker and found the main casino is still a bit much even in the non-smoking sections.  What I noticed was several people coming in the casino to smoke that aren't playing games or slots.  Just too lazy to go up to the upper deck outside where a smoking section has been designated.  This contributes to the already heavy smoke in the casino the air handlers are unable to process.

Since it was new there weren't many people in the small casino as many think it is for high rollers.  As more people become aware it will get much busier.  Maybe Royal can increase the air handler capacity in the casino to ease the smoking situation and increase revenue.

But what do I know.

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