need2cruz Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 I was considering getting the coffee card for my cruise on Wonder in January. I know it's not good at the licensed Starbucks location. My husband is particular about his coffee, but enjoyed the decaf mocha latte espresso with a double shot from Cafe promenade on our last cruise. This is because they were using the Starbucks beans. Does anyone know if this coffee drink would use 2 punches in the coffee card? or do you pay the difference? JimnKathy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramja Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 I have never bought the coffee card, so I can't answer your question. But just FYI - Starbucks is now included on the Refreshment drink package. I know it's considerably more than the coffee card, but it's also significantly less than the Deluxe Package and it still really expands your options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadget Hackwrench Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 I found this article on the website that has a detailed explanation of how the system works but also unfortunately confirms that there is still confusion in practice on how extra shots are accounted for as part of the program https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2022/06/24/guide-royal-caribbeans-coffee-card-package need2cruz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancity Cruiser Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, need2cruz said: I was considering getting the coffee card for my cruise on Wonder in January. I know it's not good at the licensed Starbucks location. My husband is particular about his coffee, but enjoyed the decaf mocha latte espresso with a double shot from Cafe promenade on our last cruise. This is because they were using the Starbucks beans. Does anyone know if this coffee drink would use 2 punches in the coffee card? or do you pay the difference? On a recent Radiance sailing my wife purchased a coffee card. The folks at the coffee place tried to say it was one punch per shot. I reviewed the terms and conditions on my purchase because I didn't remember that being stated anywhere. The beverage manager agreed with me that it is not stated anywhere and reversed that. As a matter of a fact, when they employ that logic the cost of the coffe card is actually more expensive then just buying the coffee's individually. A refreshment package may be a better investment than a coffee card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChessE4 Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 36 minutes ago, Vancity Cruiser said: On a recent Radiance sailing my wife purchased a coffee card. The folks at the coffee place tried to say it was one punch per shot. I reviewed the terms and conditions on my purchase because I didn't remember that being stated anywhere. The beverage manager agreed with me that it is not stated anywhere and reversed that. As a matter of a fact, when they employ that logic the cost of the coffe card is actually more expensive then just buying the coffee's individually. A refreshment package may be a better investment than a coffee card. Concur that the description doesn't say "X espresso shots", but my experience in June on Mariner was one punch per shot. What I discovered is that I loved the iced lattes, and I could get a single-shot drink that still tasted good. I am glad you were able to persuade the manager to agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimnKathy Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, need2cruz said: I was considering getting the coffee card for my cruise on Wonder in January. I know it's not good at the licensed Starbucks location. My husband is particular about his coffee, but enjoyed the decaf mocha latte espresso with a double shot from Cafe promenade on our last cruise. This is because they were using the Starbucks beans. Does anyone know if this coffee drink would use 2 punches in the coffee card? or do you pay the difference? We've used the coffee card on our last two cruises on Symphony and Wonder. Double shots cost us 2 punches on the few occasions we did a highly-caffeinated option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaa Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Ramja said: I have never bought the coffee card, so I can't answer your question. But just FYI - Starbucks is now included on the Refreshment drink package. I know it's considerably more than the coffee card, but it's also significantly less than the Deluxe Package and it still really expands your options. Are you sure? I'm still seeing this on Refreshment Package. All Beverage Packages exclude any beverages served inside licensed Starbucks® stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 Starbucks beverages are not included in any beverage package (exception being Star Class) however, if the venue is not a Starbucks branded kiosk but serves beverages prepared with Starbucks beans, then it is covered. USCG Teacher and CruiseGus 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancity Cruiser Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, ChessE4 said: Concur that the description doesn't say "X espresso shots", but my experience in June on Mariner was one punch per shot. What I discovered is that I loved the iced lattes, and I could get a single-shot drink that still tasted good. I am glad you were able to persuade the manager to agree with you. It took very little persuasion actually. I just asked him to show me the verbiage detailing this and I would gladly admit I was wrong. I was very polite and ready to assume I had missed something. He didn't even look (pretty sure he knew it wasnt there lol) and corrected it. The coffee card specifically said X amount of specialty coffee's, nothing about espresso shots. I think its Royal pulling a little sneaky sneaky and most folks just accept it when they are told onboard it is per shot. Pattycruise and ChessE4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseGus Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 53 minutes ago, Vancity Cruiser said: It took very little persuasion actually. I just asked him to show me the verbiage detailing this and I would gladly admit I was wrong. I was very polite and ready to assume I had missed something. He didn't even look (pretty sure he knew it wasnt there lol) and corrected it. The coffee card specifically said X amount of specialty coffee's, nothing about espresso shots. I think its Royal pulling a little sneaky sneaky and most folks just accept it when they are told onboard it is per shot. And the fact is that not ALL beverage managers will agree with the one you dealt with. It seems from my experience that Royal Corporate Management gives a lot of latitude to ships management on how certain business policy's are implemented. It seems that overwhelmingly the decision by ships management in this particular area is 1 punch for 1 shot. If one is not willing to accept that as the policy, my advice would be to not buy a coffee card, as you may be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need2cruz Posted August 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Thanks everyone for the advise. I'm not sure about the coffee card. I'll have to do the math. The large/vente size decaf coffee drink actually comes with 2 shots (because of the large size) and we add an extra shot. I'm thinking they might want to punch the card 3 times.... We're Platinum and you get a couple of half off coffees on board, already. When I ordered this drink on Liberty a couple of weeks ago, I was always charged a different amount, anywhere from $5-$8. It seamed strange that the price was different, dependent on who was serving me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need2cruz Posted August 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 15 hours ago, JimnKathy said: We've used the coffee card on our last two cruises on Symphony and Wonder. Double shots cost us 2 punches on the few occasions we did a highly-caffeinated option. The funny thing is my husband's double shot is decaf! I don't understand. I drink the plain old free coffee Royal gives, but I'm getting it strictly for the caffeine. My husband doesn't want the caffeine, just the strong flavor. JimnKathy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramja Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 20 hours ago, WAAAYTOOO said: Starbucks beverages are not included in any beverage package (exception being Star Class) however, if the venue is not a Starbucks branded kiosk but serves beverages prepared with Starbucks beans, then it is covered. Thank you for clarifying that. When it was first announced (just a couple weeks ago) I think the wording was confusing, and I took it to mean that the Starbucks kiosks were included in the drink package. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRMO12HD Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 How much is a latte at Cafe Promenade? Does anyone have access to (or can point me in the direction of) a current price list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, IRMO12HD said: How much is a latte at Cafe Promenade? Does anyone have access to (or can point me in the direction of) a current price list? EatSleepCruise has one in their Navigator of the Seas restaurant guide. It was last updated in 2020, so probably pretty current. (https://eatsleepcruise.com/navigator-of-the-seas-restaurant-guide/ is the guide and HERE is the menu.) Keep in mind the different ships may have slightly different menus. For example, this Navi menu has smoothies and those aren't available on all the ships with Cafe Promenades. IRMO12HD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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