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Just disembarked from 9 day on Allure (Aruba / Curcao / Labadee) 6200 passengers on 5400 capacity ship!!!  Yes, it felt packed.  I knew something was going on in advance when I was having trouble finding an excursion or finding only the 2:00pm excursion start time.  Also no royal up offered.  Staff shortages as well. Red neckerchief chef flipping burgers at Johny Rockets; frequently only 2 bartenders at the pool bars on deck 15; casino cashier working the x-ray machine at the Aruba embarkation. Service slow at all of the specialty restaurants. 

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I'm on the Allure in September. Nice that it's full. The Independence Friday and the Symphony next month should be fun. I generally do not like people/crowds, but on a cruise ship I know how to get by: Few excursions - if any, no MDR, free drinks in the casino (tip well early in the cruise and a waiter tracks you down), good food in Playmakers (tip well on first visit and they serve you quickly throughout), Windjammer very early for breakfast, enjoy the nice balcony/suite with someone who cleans it twice a day and cribbage in the Solarium. 

My favorite cruise activities usually involve doing little to nothing. At home, I'm always doing my "tasks".

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I agree, I was just on Mariner (docked beside you in Curaçao). 13th cruise and I have never seen a ship this packed. We just gave up trying to enjoy scheduled activities. MDR service was incredibly slow. We would just sit forever in between courses. All the chairs in the solarium were gone at 630am on sea days. Bar service was excellent thankfully.

I’d gladly pay a premium for lower capacity sailings. 

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54 minutes ago, loki007 said:

’Id gladly pay a premium for lower capacity sailings. 

There are cruise lines that cater to this. I spoke to someone who recently went this route. It completely changed her perception of these lines. She was expecting (and this was my perception as well) a 'hoity toity' crowd but found a very down to earth crowd of relaxed cruisers enjoying less crowds and a more attentive sevice.

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I was also on Mariner last week, but really only appreciated the crowds on the pool deck on sea days, which is typical. We were in and out of MDR in about 60-75 minutes each day. Our waiter was a veteran (he had contracts all the way back to Nordic Empress) so maybe that was why? Bars were always attentive. Only negative was Johnny Rockets did not provision onion rings and the ship only had one or two bourbons (Buffalo Trace which is all over their drink menus is not available).

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18 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

Or any officer really.

 

Actually everyone will know though they may not remember. Once the last passenger is off they make an announcement on how many are on the next cruise and the C&A breakdown.
 

Maybe it's not widespread.

 

When my son was quarantined on Adventure last summer (for close contact, not covid) we were last off the ship. And heard this announcement.

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12 hours ago, SpeedNoodles said:

You have to ask at Guest Services once everyone is aboard.

 

12 hours ago, smokeybandit said:

Maybe it's not widespread.

 

When my son was quarantined on Adventure last summer (for close contact, not covid) we were last off the ship. And heard this announcement.

Thanks for the info!

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2 hours ago, Leroyr55 said:

🤔 how can you have more than 100% capacity? We’re people sleeping and bathing on the pool deck? 

Ships have a double occupancy capacity (every cabin is booked with only 2 people ) and a total capacity (every bed in every room is occupied)

The capacity reports coming out of these cruises are all based on double occupancy.

 

So if a ship has 100 rooms, double occupancy is 200. Say you sell only 90 rooms, but 20 rooms have a family of four in them, that's 220 people, so you're over 100% occupancy.

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The specialty dining reservations guy on the promenade had a printout that included the number of guests and kids that week. I took a photo of it while he was making our reservation so I could remember the capacity. The form looked like something they probably give out to all of senior crew each week with other instructions on it (formal nights, theme nights, docking times, etc).

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15 hours ago, Freybey said:

yes, inquiring minds would like to know!

No website, you can ask guest services, or when you go to the C&A event, they will give guest count. Even before shutdown, the only way to know number of pax was when you were aboard a sailing. 

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On 7/26/2022 at 9:35 AM, smokeybandit said:

Ships have a double occupancy capacity (every cabin is booked with only 2 people ) and a total capacity (every bed in every room is occupied)

The capacity reports coming out of these cruises are all based on double occupancy.

 

So if a ship has 100 rooms, double occupancy is 200. Say you sell only 90 rooms, but 20 rooms have a family of four in them, that's 220 people, so you're over 100% occupancy.

Actually capacity is limited by the number of spots on the escape craft (both motorized and inflatables).   So cabin capacity can actually be on the high side, but with excess escape capacity.

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