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Just came off a 2 week B2B on Anthem out of Bayonne .   First week, 2800 passengers, second week 2500.  Total Covid cases  ONE.    In the second week, protocols were much more lax or loose.No more masks!  Life guards could finally take off their masks.  Hot tubs were filled to capacity  ( I counted 16 in one).  And hardly any restrictions in the main pool.    We Will Rock You  remains to be the best show on the ship. Cant say anything great about the rest. Casino was packed at night.   Port Canaveral... don't waste your money at this port on any excursions, there is simply not enough time .   Cayo Coco is good for a few hours and back to the ship for quiet time by the pool.  Nassau .....took the number 10 bus for $1.25 to Baha Mar resort and Casino.  What an amazing place. Lots of Hong Kong dollars went into the development of this place. It is stunning, and worth a visit.  Coastal Kitchen on this ship was not the calibre of quality that I experienced on Oasis class ships,,,, went 4 times in 2 weeks.  MDR was good. WindJammer, much improved I found.  Disembarked and paid $350 us  for parking  (ouch)  and drove to Wallgreens in Niagara Falls where I booked a free antigen test . Went in at 4:pm and got results by 6:00pm   I tested positive!  My wife negative.    So The Canadian government has me under 10 day quarantine and my wife 14 days.   They let us go home to Toronto to quarantine.  

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Thanks for the report.  Sounds like you had a great time and cruise seems close to being back to normal.

Your last statement worries me.  So sorry.  I hope you are feeling ok.

We have same cruise booked for upcoming weekend.  Can I ask what you are doing now?  Are you staying in the States?  Or taking the chance and driving home so you can quarantine at your own place?  

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33 minutes ago, Eddy said:

Just came off a 2 week B2B on Anthem out of Bayonne .   First week, 2800 passengers, second week 2500.  Total Covid cases  ONE.    In the second week, protocols were much more lax or loose.No more masks!  Life guards could finally take off their masks.  Hot tubs were filled to capacity  ( I counted 16 in one).  And hardly any restrictions in the main pool.    We Will Rock You  remains to be the best show on the ship. Cant say anything great about the rest. Casino was packed at night.   Port Canaveral... don't waste your money at this port on any excursions, there is simply not enough time .   Cayo Coco is good for a few hours and back to the ship for quiet time by the pool.  Nassau .....took the number 10 bus for $1.25 to Baha Mar resort and Casino.  What an amazing place. Lots of Hong Kong dollars went into the development of this place. It is stunning, and worth a visit.  Coastal Kitchen on this ship was not the calibre of quality that I experienced on Oasis class ships,,,, went 4 times in 2 weeks.  MDR was good. WindJammer, much improved I found.  Disembarked and paid $350 us  for parking  (ouch)  and drove to Wallgreens in Niagara Falls where I booked a free antigen test . Went in at 4:pm and got results by 6:00pm   I tested positive!  My wife negative.    So The Canadian government has me under 10 day quarantine and my wife 14 days.   Joy.  

Is your 14 day in Toronto? I hope your wife is ok. We drive to New Jersey for our sailing on Sunday. 

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1 hour ago, YellowBrickRoad said:

Is your 14 day in Toronto? I hope your wife is ok. We drive to New Jersey for our sailing on Sunday. 

Yes, we are wondering the same.  Did the border agent allow you to cross with a positive test and if so was there any reference to the $5k per person potential fine?  I hope you are feeling alright.

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On 3/7/2022 at 7:38 PM, Pattycruise said:

Did you notify Anthem …well Royal…that you tested positive!  There’s Actually something in FAQ that asks that it be done,

 

5 minutes ago, Eddy said:

yes at home. 10 day quarantine. Feel fine. thx

 

On 3/7/2022 at 7:38 PM, Pattycruise said:

Did you notify Anthem …well Royal…that you tested positive!  There’s Actually something in FAQ that asks that it be done,

I tested positive off the ship. Until then, no symptoms.  Only one reported case on the whole ship. I see no protocol or purpose to report anything at this point. I feel fine. 

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12 minutes ago, Eddy said:

 

 

I tested positive off the ship. Until then, no symptoms.  Only one reported case on the whole ship. I see no protocol or purpose to report anything at this point. I feel fine. 

If for no other reason, the next person staying in your cabin would have appreciated you notifying Royal, they could have deep cleaned the cabin.

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Glad that you are okay @Eddy .  I'm in Cornwall, east of you and going on a RCI cruise end of April out of Vancouver.  I'm noticing in some of the threads in many forums that Americans don't quite get Canada's way of controlling the virus.  All good though, we now won't get the $5K bill from Feds if we test positive when coming back into Canada.  Since I work from home, no problems with being in Quarantine of 10 days. Glad that you a great time, and agree with you on Port Canaveral, unless you've never done NASA visit before... that is worth the $$$!!!

Hoping the moderator of these boards eventually allows my posts to be seen, otherwise I'm just writing this dribble to me, myself and Irene!

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6 minutes ago, Jjohnb said:

If for no other reason, the next person staying in your cabin would have appreciated you notifying Royal, they could have deep cleaned the cabin.

They are ALL deep cleaned at turn around day regardless and fogged as I recall the smell  entering my room very early first day of cruise.  Further I did not know until almost the next day if I had omicron. Further to that if there is any trace of the virus on cotton or any surface it dies within 2 hours.  Thanks for your virtue signalling anyway.  

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On 3/7/2022 at 2:11 PM, WannaCruise said:

Thanks for the report.  Sounds like you had a great time and cruise seems close to being back to normal.

Your last statement worries me.  So sorry.  I hope you are feeling ok.

We have same cruise booked for upcoming weekend.  Can I ask what you are doing now?  Are you staying in the States?  Or taking the chance and driving home so you can quarantine at your own place?  

Immigration cannot refuse you entry into Canada. Just show your tests. Half the guys dont even look at them. You quarantine at your home in Canada.,not USA. ...although you can, but it would be a costly stay at a hotel.   If only one of your party tests positive then all the rest of your group who tested negative must quarantine for 14 days. Crazy.  Thats Trudeau.   Federal. Provincial is only 5 days.    Go figure that.   

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On 3/7/2022 at 2:11 PM, WannaCruise said:

Thanks for the report.  Sounds like you had a great time and cruise seems close to being back to normal.

Your last statement worries me.  So sorry.  I hope you are feeling ok.

We have same cruise booked for upcoming weekend.  Can I ask what you are doing now?  Are you staying in the States?  Or taking the chance and driving home so you can quarantine at your own place?  

No worries.  I feel fine. Drove home to quarantine.  They cannot refuse you entry to Canada.  They gave us 3 boxes of switch health, test kits, picked up by purolater.   

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On 3/7/2022 at 3:25 PM, recogneyes said:

Yes, we are wondering the same.  Did the border agent allow you to cross with a positive test and if so was there any reference to the $5k per person potential fine?  I hope you are feeling alright.

 

On 3/7/2022 at 3:25 PM, recogneyes said:

Yes, we are wondering the same.  Did the border agent allow you to cross with a positive test and if so was there any reference to the $5k per person potential fine?  I hope you are feeling alright.

The border agent CANNOT refuse you entry . PERIOD.  You will be fined $5,000.00 if you did not get an antigen test. WE did.  Even though positive, they must let you in. You simply drive home and quarantine. Just like you do anywhere in the province, with the exception of the length of time stipulated by the federal government and provincial government guidelines.  Unfortunately  , we must adhere to Trudope. 

 

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1 hour ago, Eddy said:

Immigration cannot refuse you entry into Canada. Just show your tests. Half the guys dont even look at them. You quarantine at your home in Canada.,not USA. ...although you can, but it would be a costly stay at a hotel.   If only one of your party tests positive then all the rest of your group who tested negative must quarantine for 14 days. Crazy.  Thats Trudeau.   Federal. Provincial is only 5 days.    Go figure that.   

 

 

1 hour ago, Eddy said:

 

The border agent CANNOT refuse you entry . PERIOD.  You will be fined $5,000.00 if you did not get an antigen test. WE did.  Even though positive, they must let you in. You simply drive home and quarantine. Just like you do anywhere in the province, with the exception of the length of time stipulated by the federal government and provincial government guidelines.  Unfortunately  , we must adhere to Trudope. 

 

SO glad to hear you're feeling ok.  Hope your wife keeps well.  Yeah, Canada cannot refuse to let you in. 

We are going on Anthem this Sunday (fingers crossed) and so have the concern if one of us tests positive.  We have no issue driving straight home and having to quarantine there...kids will switch to online school and DH and I work from home.  However, the Canadian government site says that there is a potential fine per person if you enter Canada with a positive test (meaning only negative result is valid).  We do have quarantine insurance so it would pay for a hotel but obviously being at home is much better (but not if we have to pay over $20,000!).  Did the border agent not mention a possible fine of $5000 per person?  To me, it's ridiculous as it's better for everyone to be at home rather than some public hotel.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

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1 hour ago, WannaCruise said:

 

 

SO glad to hear you're feeling ok.  Hope your wife keeps well.  Yeah, Canada cannot refuse to let you in. 

We are going on Anthem this Sunday (fingers crossed) and so have the concern if one of us tests positive.  We have no issue driving straight home and having to quarantine there...kids will switch to online school and DH and I work from home.  However, the Canadian government site says that there is a potential fine per person if you enter Canada with a positive test (meaning only negative result is valid).  We do have quarantine insurance so it would pay for a hotel but obviously being at home is much better (but not if we have to pay over $20,000!).  Did the border agent not mention a possible fine of $5000 per person?  To me, it's ridiculous as it's better for everyone to be at home rather than some public hotel.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

To repeat. As long as everybody gets tested, ( i did it at Wallgreens appt online on the ship)  you will not be subjected to any fine. The fine is for people who refuse to get tested.  Now if one of your party tests positive.... unfortunately , the rest of the group will have to quarantine for 14 days and the positive  person only 10.  why?  I dont know.     Its federal.      I would send all the negative people home and have someone come back and get the positive subject after a few days and test again.  There is no need for everybody to quarantine for 14 days... crazy. You may have read an old post , but the fine is only for people who dont get tested at all. 

 

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2 hours ago, Eddy said:

To repeat. As long as everybody gets tested, ( i did it at Wallgreens appt online on the ship)  you will not be subjected to any fine. The fine is for people who refuse to get tested.  Now if one of your party tests positive.... unfortunately , the rest of the group will have to quarantine for 14 days and the positive  person only 10.  why?  I dont know.     Its federal.      I would send all the negative people home and have someone come back and get the positive subject after a few days and test again.  There is no need for everybody to quarantine for 14 days... crazy. You may have read an old post , but the fine is only for people who dont get tested at all. 

 

That's not my understanding....but... I would love for you to be right. 

I agree...it's crazy to require 14 day quarantine, and certainly doesn't match provincial rules.

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3 hours ago, Eddy said:

To repeat. As long as everybody gets tested, ( i did it at Wallgreens appt online on the ship)  you will not be subjected to any fine. The fine is for people who refuse to get tested.  Now if one of your party tests positive.... unfortunately , the rest of the group will have to quarantine for 14 days and the positive  person only 10.  why?  I dont know.     Its federal.      I would send all the negative people home and have someone come back and get the positive subject after a few days and test again.  There is no need for everybody to quarantine for 14 days... crazy. You may have read an old post , but the fine is only for people who dont get tested at all. 

 

Maybe it's worth it to find alternative means for the negative people to get home......

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1 hour ago, WannaCruise said:

That's not my understanding....but... I would love for you to be right. 

I agree...it's crazy to require 14 day quarantine, and certainly doesn't match provincial rules.

I was hoping that the Gov't of Canada travel requirements had been updated to reflect the removal of the potential $5k fine but unfortunately it still reads "A positive antigen pre-entry test result is never a valid test result for boarding a flight or entry to Canada, not even if it is from within 10 to 180 calendar days before your date of entry. Canadians: To avoid being fined $5,000 per traveller (plus surcharges), wait to enter Canada at least 10 calendar days after your positive molecular test result. If travelling by air, you’ll be denied boarding. Counting starts the day following the day of testing.

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On 3/7/2022 at 4:22 PM, ptod said:

Do you recall how traditional and MyTime dining were split between the dining room?

We were on Anthem presidents week and reserved MyTime dining.  American and Silk (deck 4) served early dining and then switched to MyTime dining at 6:45.  I'm sorry but I don't know how The Grande and Chic (deck 3) were configured.  

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13 hours ago, recogneyes said:

I was hoping that the Gov't of Canada travel requirements had been updated to reflect the removal of the potential $5k fine but unfortunately it still reads "A positive antigen pre-entry test result is never a valid test result for boarding a flight or entry to Canada, not even if it is from within 10 to 180 calendar days before your date of entry. Canadians: To avoid being fined $5,000 per traveller (plus surcharges), wait to enter Canada at least 10 calendar days after your positive molecular test result. If travelling by air, you’ll be denied boarding. Counting starts the day following the day of testing.

Yes that's what it reads and I read it. I phoned the border agent just to be sure in advance. I cannot find anywhere stating refusal into Canada with a positive test for vaccinated Canadians. Regardless, the site is old or needs updating....they let me in.  

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8 minutes ago, Eddy said:

Yes that's what it reads and I read it. I phoned the border agent just to be sure in advance. I cannot find anywhere stating refusal into Canada with a positive test for vaccinated Canadians. Regardless, the site is old or needs updating....they let me in.  

I don't think anyone is questioning whether they will let you in or not.  Obviously, being Canadian they will. 

Everyone is asking you whether or not they fined you (since you produced a positive test) or threated to fine you.

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6 minutes ago, Lovetocruise2002 said:

I don't think anyone is questioning whether they will let you in or not.  Obviously, being Canadian they will. 

Everyone is asking you whether or not they fined you (since you produced a positive test) or threated to fine you.

Have answered that question over and over.  NO NO NO.   FINES.  You get tested, thats the requirement... negative or positive.... drive in.  The fine is for people WHO DO NOT GET TESTED. 

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5 minutes ago, Eddy said:

Have answered that question over and over.  NO NO NO.   FINES.  You get tested, thats the requirement... negative or positive.... drive in.  The fine is for people WHO DO NOT GET TESTED. 

As a moderator you can clearly scroll and see the responses. NO fines for Canadians attempting re-entry into Canada who have been tested.

 

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4 hours ago, Eddy said:

As a moderator you can clearly scroll and see the responses. NO fines for Canadians attempting re-entry into Canada who have been tested.

 

Yes, I have scrolled through all your responses.  Again and again, you have said no fines for those that have been tested.  But that is not what CBSA says as already quoted by @recogneyes.  This is direct from CBSA and this is what everyone in this thread is questioning.  But this is clearly going nowhere so moving on.

When you arrive at the border, you must present a valid negative test result (paper or electronic proof) or proof of a previous positive molecular test result taken at least 10 calendar days and no more than 180 calendar days before entering Canada. Counting starts the day after your test.

 

If a Canadian citizen, person registered under the Indian Act, or permanent resident does not provide proof of a valid test result they:

  • will be allowed entry, but may be subject to a fine of up to $5,000 plus additional surcharges or face criminal prosecution
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7 hours ago, Eddy said:

Yes that's what it reads and I read it. I phoned the border agent just to be sure in advance. I cannot find anywhere stating refusal into Canada with a positive test for vaccinated Canadians. Regardless, the site is old or needs updating....they let me in.  

The site was updated with the new testing protocols but the threat of being fined for trying to enter with a positive test (or no test) has not been removed.  It could just be a scare tactic but until the threat of a fine is removed it is still deterring people from travelling and causing concern to some people who are choosing to go.  I'm glad it didn't cause any issues for you.

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2 hours ago, Cait said:

For getting off the ship in Nassau did you have to show a negative test and complete the travel visa? Its unclear on their website if the rules are the same for cruise ships.

Just got off the ship in ship in Nassau a couple weeks ago and did not have to show a negative test or a visa.  There are signs when you get off the ship that say you must have proof of vaccination, either your vaccine card or a picture on your phone.  The Royal attendant who scanned me off the ship told me this fact before we exited so I went back to my stateroom and took a picture of my vaccine cards with my phone.  When we checked in for our day pass they did require this proof.

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16 hours ago, recogneyes said:

The site was updated with the new testing protocols but the threat of being fined for trying to enter with a positive test (or no test) has not been removed.  It could just be a scare tactic but until the threat of a fine is removed it is still deterring people from travelling and causing concern to some people who are choosing to go.  I'm glad it didn't cause any issues for you.

prior to entering USA (by car) , I pulled over and had a chat with a supervisor. Nobody is getting fined UNLESS they did not get tested. And people have been fined for that.  I did a follow up phone call after the results to ensure the same answer.  Yes, I believe the fine of re-entry is simply there as a deterrent....that is possible.   

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19 hours ago, Lovetocruise2002 said:

Yes, I have scrolled through all your responses.  Again and again, you have said no fines for those that have been tested.  But that is not what CBSA says as already quoted by @recogneyes.  This is direct from CBSA and this is what everyone in this thread is questioning.  But this is clearly going nowhere so moving on.

When you arrive at the border, you must present a valid negative test result (paper or electronic proof) or proof of a previous positive molecular test result taken at least 10 calendar days and no more than 180 calendar days before entering Canada. Counting starts the day after your test.

 

If a Canadian citizen, person registered under the Indian Act, or permanent resident does not provide proof of a valid test result they:

  • will be allowed entry, but may be subject to a fine of up to $5,000 plus additional surcharges or face criminal prosecution

All they want is a "VALID TEST"   negative or positive.   Further the fine " MAY BE " subjected to a fine.  I know it looks misconstrued, but thats my experience and I spoke to  2 immigration officers prior to crossing.   A public health officer came out to greet me and gave me switch health test kits to take home and report a proctored test.  What you post...I read, but its not followed by the letter.  I think its for people who are trying to scam the system and cross illegally on purpose.  We reported in full honesty and they appreciate that.  Nobody gave us a stern warning, and told us we could be fined. They were very nice and cordial.    That site's wording needs to be changed.... but I think it's there as a deterrent. 

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19 hours ago, Cait said:

For getting off the ship in Nassau did you have to show a negative test and complete the travel visa? Its unclear on their website if the rules are the same for cruise ships.

You show nothing. Nothing is required to get off and on the ship other than ship ID Seapass card and photo ID... Thats it. 

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