barbeyg Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 https://www.alaskapublic.org/2022/02/18/bill-from-alaskas-congressional-delegation-would-allow-cruises-to-bypass-canada-ports-again/ “Alaskans cannot gamble again on the goodwill and commonsense of our Canadian neighbors, who failed us last year,” Sullivan said in a statement announcing the bill. BowTieBrigade and 4ensic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAYNO Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 It would not hurt my feelings to bypass BC on an Alaskan cruise originating from Seattle. When I cruise to Canada, please let me do so. And when I cruise to Alaska, also let me do so, without needing the permission of Canada. BowTieBrigade and 4ensic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 I'll be so mad at myself if they sail Serenade out of Seattle after I switched my sailing to Quantum it to avoid dealing with trying to depart from Vancouver. That being said, I absolutely love going to Victoria. barbeyg and BowTieBrigade 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancity Cruiser Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Hopefully not needed because that would mean the 15 ships sailing out of Vancouver would need to find new itineraries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 I'd be more than fine with them moving serenade to Seattle. But I suspect this move is purely CYA barbeyg and WAAAYTOOO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWaits Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, SpeedNoodles said: That being said, I absolutely love going to Victoria. The only port on our May trip where we have booked excursions is Victoria. The only replacement port that would be a break even for us if if they added Sitka. Neither Ketchikan nor Icy Strait Point would be. SpeedNoodles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, HeWhoWaits said: The only port on our May trip where we have booked excursions is Victoria. The only replacement port that would be a break even for us if if they added Sitka. Neither Ketchikan nor Icy Strait Point would be. I lost Sitka when I changed ships. I'm bummed about that. I was assured we'd get up there frequently once we retire and move to Washington State, so I was placated. BeachGal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbeyg Posted February 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, SpeedNoodles said: That being said, I absolutely love going to Victoria. I do too. But it IS the only port we haven’t booked excursions for right now. Waiting a bit longer first, to see how things shake out in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Alaska Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 Noooooo. I've already bought our flights from Vancouver for our July Radiance Southbound. Cub 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Baked Alaska said: Noooooo. I've already bought our flights from Vancouver for our July Radiance Southbound. I booked with Air2Sea specifically for the unknowns of Canadian cruising 4ensic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Alaska Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: I booked with Air2Sea specifically for the unknowns of Canadian cruising “Alaskans cannot gamble again on the goodwill and commonsense of our Canadian neighbors, who failed us last year,” Sullivan said in a statement announcing the bill. I didn't as this didn't even creep into my mind that Alaska would seek an extention to the exemption. Politically, I love it. Logistically, hate it. 4ensic, WAAAYTOOO and Neesa 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK2793 Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 The bill isn’t to skip Canada just to skip Canada …….. the bill is to allow Alaska cruises to STILL happen from Seattle to Alaska without a stop in Canada IF AND ONLY IF Canada goes crazy again and bans cruises out of their ports in 2022. Everyone sailing to Alaska this summer should be cheering this bill on and hoping it will pass because if it doesn’t and Canada doesn’t allow cruise ships in their ports again this year, all Alaska cruises will be CANCELLED. WAAAYTOOO, teddy, barbeyg and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancity Cruiser Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, ChrisK2793 said: The bill isn’t to skip Canada just to skip Canada …….. the bill is to allow Alaska cruises to STILL happen from Seattle to Alaska without a stop in Canada IF AND ONLY IF Canada goes crazy again and bans cruises out of their ports in 2022. Everyone sailing to Alaska this summer should be cheering this bill on and hoping it will pass because if it doesn’t and Canada doesn’t allow cruise ships in their ports again this year, all Alaska cruises will be CANCELLED. Well our Prime Minister IS going crazy right now so anything is possible 4ensic, WAAAYTOOO, stevendom57 and 5 others 4 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 There was already talk about making a new version of ATRA permanent. If Canada does impact the Alaska cruise season in 2022 you can bet there will be a renewed effort to make it permanent. A permanent change isn't a bad idea and doesn't mean all Alaska cruising must bypass Canada but it prevents a foreign country from wreaking havoc with the industry for whatever whimsical reason a foreign country might try to do so. barbeyg, 4ensic, teddy and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12thman Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 Having sailed on Ovation last summer it was nice having another port in Alaska added to replace Victoria. If Canada closes cruise season how would they work out the open sailings? BowTieBrigade and WAYNO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbeyg Posted February 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 9 hours ago, ChrisK2793 said: because if it doesn’t and Canada doesn’t allow cruise ships in their ports again this year, all Alaska cruises will be CANCELLED. Yeppers. Or at the very least, the first part of the season (when we are trying for a third time to take my oldest sister and aunt to AK) will be a washout. I would rather see this bill pass, just in case. ChrisK2793 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 With the crazy stuff happening in Canada right now, this may well be a very wise move by Alaska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 I'm okay with there being a back up plan. I'm not missing another Alaska cruise this summer ChrisK2793, 4ensic, barbeyg and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 16 hours ago, Baked Alaska said: Noooooo. I've already bought our flights from Vancouver for our July Radiance Southbound. And this is why I used Air2Sea. They get to figure it out if we don’t disembark in BC. Sharla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Alaska Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 5 hours ago, Jill said: And this is why I used Air2Sea. They get to figure it out if we don’t disembark in BC. And, I guess this is just another reason why to have trip insurance! Sharla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho and Barb Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Might not be looking good for us making our 13 Night Mountain Resort Experience Cruisetour 2CA (Post Tour) on the Serenade this June. We knew it might not happen when we booked with all the Covid stuff but we really want to see the Canadian Rockies. Guess time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene Desmarais Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 When our lovely Federal Health Dept announced revised testing requirements to come back to Canada(dropping the PCR), they did mention the federal Transport Minister was to announce the guidelines & protocols for the cruising industry in the following weeks. (March time frame) I assume they are ready to open the Ports in Canada.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenCP Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Looks like it is full steam ahead for Canadian ports so far. 310 cruise ship visits scheduled for Canada Place in Vancouver in 2020 https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-cruise-ship-schedule-canada-place-2022 Vancity Cruiser and Baked Alaska 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancity Cruiser Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, KenCP said: Looks like it is full steam ahead for Canadian ports so far. 310 cruise ship visits scheduled for Canada Place in Vancouver in 2020 https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-cruise-ship-schedule-canada-place-2022 I am so excited to be able to go down to Canada place to see cruise ships again! When (if) the first ship arrives on April 7 it will have been 30 months (2.5 years) since a cruise ship last docked at Canada place KenCP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Alaska Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Now that I've had more time to think on this, the north and south-bound open-jaw sailings shouldn't be affected by this at all, should they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 51 minutes ago, Baked Alaska said: Now that I've had more time to think on this, the north and south-bound open-jaw sailings shouldn't be affected by this at all, should they? Nothing is impacted yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Done Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 7:27 PM, Baked Alaska said: Noooooo. I've already bought our flights from Vancouver for our July Radiance Southbound. A good reason to pay a little more to have fully refundable air fare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 I really miss some of my favorite cruise ports on Canada’s east coast in the fall. Beautiful places with really wonderful people. Great pubs, sights, food and shopping. Just a really welcoming atmosphere! I hope they finally work it out so that we can go back this fall…fingers crossed! Mrs. RoyalMoyal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cub Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 7:27 PM, Baked Alaska said: Noooooo. I've already bought our flights from Vancouver for our July Radiance Southbound. We haven't bought our flights for our Jul 8 southbound. Still waiting to see what port we end up in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 Well, this'll make it interesting. https://www.travelweekly.com/Cruise-Travel/Canada-requiring-100-percent-vaccinated-ships WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 25 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said: Well, this'll make it interesting. https://www.travelweekly.com/Cruise-Travel/Canada-requiring-100-percent-vaccinated-ships A poorly researched article. Canada's 100% definition only includes ages 12+ SpeedNoodles, Vancity Cruiser and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 SpeedNoodles, Cub, barbeyg and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 So they've gone back and forth on the vaccination thing, but will now allow under 12 years of age to be unvaccinated. Here's the wording that confuses me: "In addition, Canada will require passengers to take a Covid-19 molecular test within 72 hours (or an antigen test within one day) of boarding a ship departing from Canada or calling at a Canadian port. Crew members and passengers will be required to self-monitor for symptoms." We leave Boston and have a few days of cruising before hitting a Canadian port (all of which would be outside of the 72 hour PCR or 1 day antigen test). https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/6805/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancity Cruiser Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said: So they've gone back and forth on the vaccination thing, but will now allow under 12 years of age to be unvaccinated. Here's the wording that confuses me: "In addition, Canada will require passengers to take a Covid-19 molecular test within 72 hours (or an antigen test within one day) of boarding a ship departing from Canada or calling at a Canadian port. Crew members and passengers will be required to self-monitor for symptoms." We leave Boston and have a few days of cruising before hitting a Canadian port (all of which would be outside of the 72 hour PCR or 1 day antigen test). https://www.travelweekly.com/Cruise-Travel/Canada-relents-on-100-percent-vaccination-rate-for-cruise-ships I was just reading up on this. It appears Canada is sticking to its ridiculous policy that anyone stepping off a cruise ship in Canada will require a test. So cruise lines will either need to provide testing for all passengers or bypass Canadian ports as much as possible. If I was running the business I would bypass Canada as much as possible. barbeyg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 So for cruises out of Vancouver, RC will have to offer tests to everyone on the last day to be able to get off the ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancity Cruiser Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: So for cruises out of Vancouver, RC will have to offer tests to everyone on the last day to be able to get off the ship. That’s how I interpret it. It may still make financial sense for the ships sailing out of Vancouver because the extra homeport allows them to carry a lot more passengers to Alaska. However, if the Alaskan senators can get the PSVA exemption extended for another summer it would make no sense to stop in Victoria if you have test all passengers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, Vancity Cruiser said: That’s how I interpret it. It may still make financial sense for the ships sailing out of Vancouver because the extra homeport allows them to carry a lot more passengers to Alaska. However, if the Alaskan senators can get the PSVA exemption extended for another summer it would make no sense to stop in Victoria if you have test all passengers. Maybe that's something they dangle over Canada. "If everyone needs tested to get off the ship, we ain't coming" Baked Alaska 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Alaska Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Or..... I'm not getting off (Seward to Vancouver)! Cub and melmar02 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancity Cruiser Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: Maybe that's something they dangle over Canada. "If everyone needs tested to get off the ship, we ain't coming" I’d like to think that would help but unfortunately trying to rationalize with the Canadian government is like trying to rationalize with a toddler. Don’t come at them with facts or common sense, it just confuses them barbeyg, Fox Forlenza and fireclan 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbeyg Posted March 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Vancity Cruiser said: I’d like to think that would help but unfortunately trying to rationalize with the Canadian government is like trying to rationalize with a toddler. Don’t come at them with facts or common sense, it just confuses them Unfortunately, government works the same way here too. WAAAYTOOO and Baked Alaska 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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