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Hutcherl and WAAAYTOOO, thanks for the info. Do either of you know if the table minimum tends to vary from ship to ship (or maybe based on traffic / time of day like in land casinos)? $10 a play is too rich for my blood (and budget, when you're supposed to allow at least 20 plays in any single visit).

 

Yes, it has been my experience that this will vary from ship-to-ship.  I was actually very pleased to find that the limit on UTH (which is my favorite game) was $5 and not $10.  I had heard that all ships were going to increase their minimum wager requirement and was delighted to find that, at least for now, that is not true....at least, on NAV.

 

So you just won't know until you get there, I guess.

 

Kris is right about the casino making changes based on player participation though.  This is especially true with the live poker cash game.  On my last 2 cruises they were declaring that their cash games were $2/$5 blinds....but if you stick to your guns and insist on lowering the blinds they WILL let you play $1/$3.  The first night of the cruise we sat down to play poker and the first dealer we had insisted that the blinds would be $2/$5 and that there could be no deviation from this.  I just went to to the Casino Manager and told him that we would not play for $2/$5 but we would play for $1/$3 and guess what ?  We played $1/$3 blind no limit Texas Hold Em the entire 11 night cruise.  So you CAN influence their gaming limits...you just have to be firm with them !

 

A quick word about the dealers.  I'm not sure what RCI is doing with their dealers but it seems as if 90% of the dealers on our NAV cruise were new hires.  I almost ALWAYS know at least a couple of dealers from previous cruises...and we did, actually, see 1 dealer that we knew from prior cruising, but that was it !  He told us that nearly all of the dealers on the NAV were new.  I really miss seeing friends that I have made on previous cruises and I don't care for the fact that they are choosing to hire all new dealers.  It seems like it would make things very difficult to have a bunch of newbies on there are the same time but there must be some rationale.  Salary perhaps.  Who knows.  Maybe it's just a demand thing.  With all of the new ships maybe RCI is moving all of their experienced dealers to the new, big ships and the older ships are getting stuck with hiring all newbies.  I can check out that theory when we go on Harmony next month !

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Not sure I understand what this means. Are you saying the casino expects you to play 20 deals each time you start at a table? If so, my thought is that there is no minimum requirement. Once if you wish.

 

Hutcherl, it's a rule of gambling I read several years ago. You go into the casino with enough cash to make at least 20 losing bets, to allow for a likely bad streak and give you some chance to bounce back instead of losing all of your money really quickly. So with a $5 minimum, you need to have at least $100 on hand. For a game like craps, where you're not just playing the pass line for $5, but also taking your 2x odds after the point is established (for a total $15 bet each time), you need at least $300 on hand.

 

Basically you're trying to improve the odds that you won't lose everything to a handful or moderate streak of bad plays. That said, the very first time I played craps I joined a $5 table with all of $30 in my pocket, and walked away with $300 after about two hours of play (and some very lucky side bets that I really should have skipped as a newbie to the game).

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Hutcherl, it's a rule of gambling I read several years ago. You go into the casino with enough cash to make at least 20 losing bets, to allow for a likely bad streak and give you some chance to bounce back instead of losing all of your money really quickly. So with a $5 minimum, you need to have at least $100 on hand. For a game like craps, where you're not just playing the pass line for $5, but also taking your 2x odds after the point is established (for a total $15 bet each time), you need at least $300 on hand.

 

Basically you're trying to improve the odds that you won't lose everything to a handful or moderate streak of bad plays. That said, the very first time I played craps I joined a $5 table with all of $30 in my pocket, and walked away with $300 after about two hours of play (and some very lucky side bets that I really should have skipped as a newbie to the game).

Okay I follow you now. I guess I approach table games similarly. I just never put a real number to it. Makes sense. I don't sit at table unless I'm willing to play through a early bad run. But, at any point, if I happen to get up a good bit my tolerance for a bad streak lessens and I get off the table. Im not a big gambler but I do like to dabble a bit while having a few drinks.
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Awesome, Janza !  Nothin' like that 3 card straight flush !!

 

How long has it been since you last played in the casino on RCCL ?

 

The reason I asked is....the program has changed so much in the past year.  They no longer "invite" you to join.  You would NEVER know if you are a member of Club Royale if you don't call and ask !  That seems so crazy.  I don't know why they do such a poor job of advertising their program.  The truth is, I wouldn't have EVER known that I was entitled to a casino rate discount on cruise fares if Dan hadn't INSISTED that I call and see if they would offer us any kind discount.  I was stunned to find out that we are automatically entitled to any casino rate that is offered...and in all of these years since we have been members of CR I have NEVER checked a price where there wasn't SOME kind of CR discount.  You might already be overpaying and not even know it !

 

So my suggestion is to call CR and find out (1) are you members and (2) if you are entitled to a casino rate discount. 888-561-2234.

 

All they can say is "no" and then you will know !  I think they're automatically enrolling everyone who plays in the casino anymore.  Maybe not everyone qualifies for discount but we [all] have no way of knowing what the "rules" are b/c nobody [on the RCCL side] ever tells !

 

BTW, we WERE on Allure in Feb so we very well may have been there !

I just got off Oasis over Christmas the casino host gave me a free cruise (inside cabin) on select sailings or $500 credit towards one I pick. She said we were CR "members" now and would get the free drink and cash advance fee waivers on future cruises.

 

My question is about the casino rates you mention. Can travel agents check those on your behalf? Or do you need to contact CR yourself?

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TA's CAN get you the Club Royale price but they don't all have the insider knowledge to do it effectively.  I work with Michelle Cunningham (MEI) and she is very good at working directly with CR.  In the past I have gone directly to CR to make my initial reservations at the casino rate and later transferred my reservation to the TA, so you can do it either way as long as your TA knows how to coordinate with CR.

 

In the past my casino rates have been in the range of 42 - 50 % off full retail...so 12 - 20% off the BOGO or 30% off whatever promo they happen to be running when the booking is made.

 

But changes are still occurring with this program so I never know from booking-to-booking what rules are going to apply and what ones have been discontinued !  It's kind of a crap shoot (pun intended) at this point.

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We never set foot in the casino because of the smoke. As a non smoker I find the smell to be overwhelming.  I wish they would ban smoking from all but some room on deck 15.. even the smoking on deck 11 sometimes blows across the pool area.

 

We did play bingo this last trip but saw that almost every prize was won by someone with a tablet. In the first game (complete a line), someone won it after 8 numbers. 

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My TA just made my CR reservation for my Indy cruise in March. It was a mess because it was the first time she has ever done it. No cruise line allows TAs to do casino reservations so she was willing to learn. It wasn't my TA that messed the res up it was Royal. It took my TA 6 hours on the phone with them to get it corrected.

 

On a previous post I reported that I won a jackpot on the ship, over $1200 and no one gave me a win/loss statement. Two days ago I called the cruise line and was told it was an omission on their part and I would receive my IRS Form G from them by the middle of February along with a win/loss statement. Now I am scrambling to get them for the three cruise lines I sailed last year.

So the answer is you will pay taxes on any jackpot over $1200 onboard and if they don't give you the paperwork, ask for it.

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I guess receiving a complimentary cruise certificate on the final day can be considered a WIN?.  As a CR  member since 2010, I have always enjoyed the welcome aboard champagne/wine bottle, free drinks and the no fee SeaPass cash advance casino perks ever since.  I also recently took advantage of (2) complimentary cruises on the Anthem of the Seas last Dec. and book for the Oasis of the Seas this coming March. These are for 7-day cruises to the Bahamas and Easter Caribbean respectively in a Superior Ocean Large Balcony Staterooms which I only paid $240 each for the taxes.   If you do not avail of the listed selected cruise schedule, you can apply the certificate worth $1000 towards another cruise of your choice as long as you book it within 30 days from the end of the cruise and up to a year.     To calculate the monetary value in terms of win/loss ratio, I am just about breaking even.   :(  :rolleyes: Hopefully I would have better luck next next cruise.

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Up until very recently, the cruiser certs have been very useful to us.  We have been able to apply every one we have received to a existing cruises - even cruises that had already been discounted at a casino rate.

 

HOWEVER, I have been reading on CC that very recently Club Royale has begun to disallow applying cruise certs to both existing bookings and in conjunction with casino rates....so if that is true, the certs will be basically useless to me as the casino rate is always more valuable than the cert value, and I always book my cruises way in advance.

 

I guess I will find out fairly shortly as we each received a cert on our recent NAV cruise.  I have absolutely no interest in booking anything that they are offering for "free" so I will try and apply these to one of our already-booked casino rate bookings.  If what I've been reading is accurate, they will not allow me to do that.  I guess I will just have to try and see what happens !

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@waaaytooo - When I was booking my cruise for the 9-day Northern European coastal through CR for the Oct. sailing, they gave me the casino rate + an additional $300 VIP discount.  I mentioned to them that I will be on the Oasis this March and from my gambling "action" would more than likely get the $1000 value cruise cert which I intend to use for the next one.  CR said that they will only apply $700 (Max discount @ $1000) even the value on the cert is $1000 on an already existing casino rate booking.  I guess they have not changed their policy yet in terms of stacking the savings. 

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@waaaytooo - When I was booking my cruise for the 9-day Northern European coastal through CR for the Oct. sailing, they gave me the casino rate + an additional $300 VIP discount.  I mentioned to them that I will be on the Oasis this March and from my gambling "action" would more than likely get the $1000 value cruise cert which I intend to use for the next one.  CR said that they will only apply $700 (Max discount @ $1000) even the value on the cert is $1000 on an already existing casino rate booking.  I guess they have not changed their policy yet in terms of stacking the savings. 

 

Well, that is a new twist too !  Even that would be acceptable to me.  My biggest fear is that they will not allow me to add ANY additional "discount" beyond the casino rate.  

 

In the past, they would not allow me to add a certificate value to any cruise where any Club Royale discount had already been applied (they did not, at the time, anyway, consider the casino rate to be a discount).  So on bookings where I already had some kind of certificate or other casino discount, they would not apply the new certificate.  That was ok with me.  I just moved to the next one and applied the certificates (there were 2 of them.  One for me and one for Dan) and even though that booking had been discounted with the Casino rate, they still applied both of the certificates.

 

Things have been in flux with this program for longer than I can remember and it seems like the rules are different every time I call !  As long as they allow me to continue to receive a highly discounted casino rate, waive the 5% convenience fee, serve me free drinks in the casino and allow me to use the certificates that I earn, I will be happy !  So far, it's ok but I have been reading that others haven't been so lucky.  Maybe it's the fact that we are both "old VIP" program members.  Some of the things I have read suggest that they are allowing the old VIP members more latitude than the new Club Royale members.  I really just never know what the answer is going to be every time I call them for something.

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Awesome, Janza !  Nothin' like that 3 card straight flush !!

 

How long has it been since you last played in the casino on RCCL ?

 

The reason I asked is....the program has changed so much in the past year.  They no longer "invite" you to join.  You would NEVER know if you are a member of Club Royale if you don't call and ask !  That seems so crazy.  I don't know why they do such a poor job of advertising their program.  The truth is, I wouldn't have EVER known that I was entitled to a casino rate discount on cruise fares if Dan hadn't INSISTED that I call and see if they would offer us any kind discount.  I was stunned to find out that we are automatically entitled to any casino rate that is offered...and in all of these years since we have been members of CR I have NEVER checked a price where there wasn't SOME kind of CR discount.  You might already be overpaying and not even know it !

 

So my suggestion is to call CR and find out (1) are you members and (2) if you are entitled to a casino rate discount. 888-561-2234.

 

All they can say is "no" and then you will know !  I think they're automatically enrolling everyone who plays in the casino anymore.  Maybe not everyone qualifies for discount but we [all] have no way of knowing what the "rules" are b/c nobody [on the RCCL side] ever tells !

 

BTW, we WERE on Allure in Feb so we very well may have been there !

Hi WAAAYTOO!

 

So we just got off Freedom on Sunday and Adam managed to win the poker tournament again! Nothing was said in the casino but we had a letter back in the cabin from the casino for $200 of our next cruise. So we might be making progress! I saw on another thread you suggested waiting a few weeks to call to see if he's "in". Lol. I'll also be interested to see if we can apply the discount to an already booked cruise. Sounds like a hit or miss.

Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge about the casino. Greatly appreciated.

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From what I was told the last time I called Club Royale, if you receive any kind of certificate, it means that you have at least met the minimum requirements to qualify for the casino rate, so I think that means that you will be able to get a casino rate on your next cruise !

 

YIPPEE !!!

 

Congratulations on winning the poker tourney.  Will you be going to the finals in December ?  That's great fun.  I enjoyed going on that cruise very much.

 

Make sure that you call Club Royale when you get ready to make reservations for your next cruise (888-561-2234).  They will make sure you get the casino rate plus you can add the additional discount from your certificate on top of that !

 

Good job !

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Regarding the certificate....as of the last time I tried, I was NOT able to apply the certificate value to an already booked cruise.  Well....let me clarify.  I COULD have applied it to the already booked cruise but they would have repriced the cruise at the current rate which would have been more of an increase than the value of the certificate...so that was a no-go.

 

I was, however, allowed to book a new cruise, get the casino rate plus add the value of 2 certificates (Dan and I both got one on our NAV cruise over Christmas) so they have changed the rules a bit so that you cannot apply the certificates to an already booked cruise without repricing.  At least, that was my recent experience.

 

Good luck with whatever you decide to do !

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WAAAYTOOO-

I have some information to share from a recent conversation with the CR hotline that you may be able to confirm. I'm glad we have this forum to piece together the mystery that is "Club Royale". The woman I spoke to elaborated on the certificates a bit. She mentioned the casino host can give out certificate with value between $100/min and $1000/max based on play. There are special circumstances where a host can request a certificate of an absolute maximum of $1500. I found this out by mentioning my last certificate was $1200. There is a second form of "comp" that for some reason they consider of higher value then a straight cash value certificate and this is the "free cruise" certificate that represents the next level of comp. I personally do not find this nearly as valuable and according to the woman I talked with they can only be redeemed for select cruises. That's a no go for me as I like to pick & choose my cruises. I also found out that once you are a CR member to never book through the onboard "next cruise" program as it will complicate things with your CR benefits. I often wonder why Royal Carribean does not just post the program rules and levels online? Why is it such a mystery?

 

PS: I plan on getting that $1500 certificate + a free cruise + comped dinner and champagne on our Harmony cruise in 2 weeks! I will report back.

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Tony, I wish I had it all figured out, but I don't !!!!

 

I don't know whether the cash certificates or the "free" cruise certificates are more "valuable".  I suppose if you are interested in their "free" cruises (which we never are) then perhaps the "free" cruise certificates are more valuable.  You're still going to have to pay for taxes and port fees so it's never going to be "free".

 

Personally, I don't care what kind of certificate they give me b/c I am going to use it like "cash" no matter what kind of certificate it is.

 

It is patently UNtrue that you can only use the "free" cruise certificate on their pathetic list of "free" cruises.  Well...let me restate that.  If you truly want a FREE cruise (which isn't free, as we all know) then yes...you must pick from one of their list of free cruises (BTW, you can get an updated list from Club Royale.  You aren't limited to the list that's on the back of your certificate) but you CAN use the value of your "free" cruise certificate on any new cruise that you want to book.  Up until a couple of weeks ago you could actually use the value of the "free" cruise certificate to apply directly to the outstanding balance of a previously booked cruise, but they have now changed that rule...and if you choose to apply it to a previously booked cruise they will reprice the cruise.  If the price of your cruise has dropped (which NEVER happens to me !) then that's a win, but 100% of the time (so far, anyway) the cost of my cruise has gone up to the point where a repricing would negate the value of the cruise certificate (and considerably more, usually) so the whole repricing thing is a no-go for me.

 

For Dan and me....we recently received 2 "free" cruise $500 certificates (earned while on our Christmas/New Year's cruise on NAV).  We did not want any of the "free" cruises so we tried to apply them to our upcoming Harmony(blog group) cruise.  As I stated above, in order to do that they would have repriced my cruise at the current rate, which was more of an increase than $1000 so we couldn't do that.  But what did end up doing was booking a new cruise on Grandeur out of Baltimore (no airfare for us).  For this booking we were given the significantly reduced casino rate PLUS they reduced the fare an additional $1000 (the value of the 2 $500 "free" cruise certificates) making the overall reduction of this cruise 85% off full retail.  That's about as close to free as you can get so we were happy.  We hadn't planned on cruising in May but since we were able to get the 5 day Bermuda cruise over the Memorial Day weekend it will only cost us a couple of days of vacation and almost no money....so it worked out fine.

 

Don't get me wrong.  It was a sweet deal when they let you apply the value of your certificates to the outstanding balance of a previously booked cruise.  That was just money straight off the top.  But I truly do understand why they are now disallowing that.  It's double dipping.  I don't like it, but I understand it.

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Hi All,

 

Just got back from my 4 day Enchantment cruise and I received a $200 certificate. It is hard in four days to build up a lot of play. The casino host presented it to me and I asked if I could use it on a previously reserved cruise, and she said no. She said it states right on the certificate that it is good on only newly booked cruises, must be booked within 30 days, and the cruise can only be 365 days out. You can combine a certificate with another, if your husband got one and you did, the two can be put together. She did state that calling CR reservations, they sometimes will change the rules and let you put the cert. towards an already booked cruise, just depends on which rep. you speak with.

 

As stated previously, the free cruises are specific dates and ships, normally, they are trying to fill a ship when it has low bookings, that is how I got my Indy cruise next month, it is now sold out with the exception of suites. It depends on your level of gambling, is what I was told, in which cabin you will qualify for, interior, ocean view, balcony, I qualified for an ocean view.

 

The casino host told me that there are two different kinds of CR levels, one where you get the free cruises and certificates and one where you earn a certain amount of points while on my cruise to become a VIP CR member. If I had earned 1000 points I would have become VIP but on a 4 day cruise that is nearly impossible to do.

 

I just get more confused about the CR and VIP CR program. Whoever you speak to, it is a different story, whether it is a casino host or a CR rep. The host did tell me to check in as soon as the casino opened on the INDY with the casino host so they could keep up with my points on this 5 day cruise, as far as she knew it would be 1000 points to become VIP.

 

Candie

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Hey, Candie.

 

Interesting about the 2 "types" of CR members.  I had been told that the old VIP program was dead and gone.  So I am confused, too !!!!

 

I do know that even the top dogs are still receiving certificates so I don't really believe that one group of members get certs and the other group get points.  I think that's a mistake.

 

I do agree with the fact that it all depends on who you talk to at the CR desk.  They would have been happy to apply my certificate to an existing cruise but they would have repriced the cruise at the current rate which would have cost me more money than the value of the certificate so that didn't work.

 

The most important thing to know, IMO is that you do NOT have to use the certs on any of the junk cruises that they have listed on the cert.  You can use the cert on ANY new booking and they will give you BOTH the lower casino rate AND the value of the cert.  We just booked a May cruise on Grandeur and got both the casino rate (which was almost 50% off the full retain) and the value of the certs ($500 X 2 = 1000) so while not one of the ones on the list, it was still almost free.

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I believe they file a 1099 as per standard operating procedure. With that being said, w/o the winners SSN it's difficult to file....... I don't know anyone who divulges their SSN to a stranger.....

 

It's actually a W-2G that you get for sufficiently large gambling winnings (these instructions describe the conditions that warrant a W-2G). Slot and video poker machine winnings of $1,200 are reportable with a W-2G.

 

From what I understand about most casinos, if you are a US citizen and don't give them your SSN, you don't get the handpay. I don't know whether that's specifically true about onboard casinos. Given the number of handpays I've seen at casinos over the years, I bet lots of people have divulged their SSN to the casino employees.

 

Yes, I won $1700 on an NCL cruise and they didn't give me any paperwork while onboard but I received a win/loss statement from them for my taxes I filed this year. Anything of $1,199.99, in other words, $1,200 is taxable. 

 

When was that? Was the $1,700 won at one time on a slot or video poker machine?

 

I had won a jackpot on NCL in 2014 and was issued a W-2G at that time.

 

And, for accuracy about taxable income, any amount of gambling winnings is taxable (and may be offset with a corresponding deduction of up to that amount in losses), but any amount won on a slot or video poker machines of $1,200 or more in a single spin is reportable to the IRS, thus the W-2G.

 

As a parallel, let's say you do some consulting (not as an employee) for a company and they pay you $1,000. They are obligated to report that income to the IRS in the form of a 1099. Let's say, instead, that they only paid you $250. In that case, they are not obligated to report that income. However, both amounts are taxable.

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My win was one jackpot while playing a whooping 80 cents, I hit the bonus for $1700. The casino hostess paid me in cash because I specifically asked for a check, I was uncomfortable with everyone watching the win and possibly knowing what cabin I was in, but they wouldn't do it, they paid me cash. It was NCL.

 

Candie

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We never set foot in the casino because of the smoke. As a non smoker I find the smell to be overwhelming.  I wish they would ban smoking from all but some room on deck 15.. even the smoking on deck 11 sometimes blows across the pool area.

 

We did play bingo this last trip but saw that almost every prize was won by someone with a tablet. In the first game (complete a line), someone won it after 8 numbers. 

That is the exact reason my wife and I quit playing bingo,  The tablets seem to win them all.  I guess they wanted everyone to rent a tablet.

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So how do these comps work?

 

I'm guessing they give you a card that you use at the tables or machines like they do in land based casinos?

 

Then, they track how much is played during the time you are there?  ie.  I start the card with $20 and end up with over $1500 winnings, so they register me as having $1500 in play for a certain comp level?

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They do not have cards anymore.

 

The old program gave out cards (but I never used mine !).

 

Now they just track your play using your Crown and Anchor number and your seapass card.

 

Yes, they track your play using your seapass card and when you reach a certain level of play you are eligible for certificates, free drinks, waiving the 5% convenience fee and casino rates on future cruises.

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Raye,

 

I forgot to tell you the CR rep. I spoke to said they would wave my 5% fee. When I got on the ship, no way was the casino host waving that fee. I asked them to look into it and the next day got an answer of "No can't wave the fee". I am not believing what anyone says at Royal now.

 

Candie

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Raye,

 

I forgot to tell you the CR rep. I spoke to said they would wave my 5% fee. When I got on the ship, no way was the casino host waving that fee. I asked them to look into it and the next day got an answer of "No can't wave the fee". I am not believing what anyone says at Royal now.

 

Candie

 

That is a very big surprise to me, Candie.  I was told (but as you suggest, you can't trust anything they tell you - especially on the phone !!!) that if you are given any kind of certificate (which I understand, you were) then that indicates that you have met at least whatever minimum requirements there are for (1) receiving the casino rate on future cruises, (2) waiving the 5% fee and (3) free drinks in the casino.

 

So now that you have said they would NOT waive the fee for you, I have no idea what the rules are !  But there's nothing new about that !

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Raye,

 

I was so confused after the casino host tried to explain the CR and the VIPCR, these are two difference programs, is what she said. She stated I was a CR, free cruises, certificates and discounts on cruises. To be a VIPCR, I would have to accrue 1,000 points on my SeaPass card, in my 4 days on the Enchantment, which is impossible to do, so she suggested I try for VIPCR on my 5 day on the Indy in March. She told me she had lowered it from 1800 points to 1000 because they want my business. Sure they do, they want the money. When I am a VIPCR, I will receive the 5% waived and the free drinks.

 

I can tell you, the last cruise I booked, the Indy, was a free cruise, so I do get those, the one I booked before, my TA went through CR and got it for about 46% off, much cheaper price than the website, so I do get CR benefits.

 

Whatever, I will just play in the casino, talk to the host and find out what I have to do and if I don't make it, Oh Well, I was still on a cruise.

 

Candie

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Thanks for all the info in this thread, very confusing program.  I got a free 7 night cruise offer from my tier rating at my local casino in MN.  We booked the Harmony in December and will see what if any benefits are on the board.  I do have some casino line items on my booking charge at $0.  Was told online that I will get the 5% waived but will wee what happens.

 

I guess Royal is one of those casinos where I need to chat up the host to get any good comps.

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On my last cruise my son, son-in-law, and me went down to the casino on a sea day. Now I'm not a gambler so was just going to kill time and maybe watch my son/sil. They went to a table game called 'Let it Ride' and I mosied around just looking at things. Eventually I went up to a slot machine and put $10 in. Hit the max credits button a couple times when all of the sudden I hit 3 red, white, and blue 7's! Played it down to $100 left, cashed in the ticket which put me $90 ahead and never put another dime in the rest of the cruise :D

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