BrianB Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just received this email.... Very informative. WAAAYTOOO, SpeedNoodles, rjweber3 and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 Pretty straight forward and respectable stance. Basically admitting they can't stop omicron, but they'll do what they can to limit it. WAAAYTOOO, Neesa, rjweber3 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 Also received. Royal being transparent. Can't ask for much more. BrianB, Allen2, WAAAYTOOO and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 At least they are acknowledging that some of the activities could be impacted. That's about all they can do in a general notice like this. SpeedNoodles, Allen2 and BrianB 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisandjenn24 Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 The numbers on ships have been anywhere from 50 -100 positive cases. If my math is correct that's around 1% of occupancy. Someone Help me understand why shows and climbing walls and ice skating might be canceled. Two years into this pandemic we must go on. AlmondFarmer, LizzyBee23 and GatorCruiser 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, chrisandjenn24 said: The numbers on ships have been anywhere from 50 -100 positive cases. If my math is correct that's around 1% of occupancy. Someone Help me understand why shows and climbing walls and ice skating might be canceled. Two years into this pandemic we must go on. Because a lot of the cases this past week involves crew. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, chrisandjenn24 said: The numbers on ships have been anywhere from 50 -100 positive cases. If my math is correct that's around 1% of occupancy. Someone Help me understand why shows and climbing walls and ice skating might be canceled. Two years into this pandemic we must go on. Welcome to the message boards. Cast and backstage crew work in close quarters. If one cast or crew member is positive, or a close contact of someone who is, it can impact a show because they don't want the entire cast and entire backstage crew becoming infected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kata Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, chrisandjenn24 said: The numbers on ships have been anywhere from 50 -100 positive cases. If my math is correct that's around 1% of occupancy. Someone Help me understand why shows and climbing walls and ice skating might be canceled. Two years into this pandemic we must go on. Agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, twangster said: Welcome to the message boards. Cast and backstage crew work in close quarters. If one cast or crew member is positive, or a close contact of someone who is, it can impact a show because they don't want the entire cast and entire backstage crew becoming infected. That and some element of doing something for the sake of doing something so no one says they didn't do something LizzyBee23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infosec123 Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 54 minutes ago, twangster said: Also received. Royal being transparent. Can't ask for much more. I dont see any transparency from Royal, quite the opposite. When I booked my mid Jan cruise I was told the kids would get 4 hours each per day. Someone just got off the Freedom of the Seas and said the following: "Attached is the kids club schedule for a recent Freedom cruise (4 nights). You were only able to book one session (2 hours) per child. However, you could see if space opened up throughout the cruise." If we are only allowed one session per child on the cruise, that is pathetic and a flat out ripoff! But no one can tell me what I should actually expect for my cruise in 2 weeks, I fail to see how that is transparent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt V Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Are you able to get a cash refund? The way they word it is unclear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, infosec123 said: I dont see any transparency from Royal, quite the opposite. When I booked my mid Jan cruise I was told the kids would get 4 hours each per day. Someone just got off the Freedom of the Seas and said the following: "Attached is the kids club schedule for a recent Freedom cruise (4 nights). You were only able to book one session (2 hours) per child. However, you could see if space opened up throughout the cruise." If we are only allowed one session per child on the cruise, that is pathetic and a flat out ripoff! But no one can tell me what I should actually expect for my cruise in 2 weeks, I fail to see how that is transparent. You should also note that some onboard activities, such as ice skating, rock climbing, laser tag, production shows, Adventure Ocean, etc., could be impacted during your sailing, as we adjust our plans to ensure that the health of both our guests and crew remain our priority. That is transparency. Not liking what they stated does not make it not transparent. Ghost999, Okgladgal, Vancity Cruiser and 4 others 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted December 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 The fact is no one can tell you what to expect in two weeks. That’s clear to anyone following along with what’s been going on. They are pretty much telling everyone that with this new variant…expect changes, adjustments, cancellations and postponements of services and itineraries. And if you wish to not take the chance of being disappointed…maybe do not go on a cruise now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sctexas Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 I also received this email. Pretty clear warning ports and activities are subject to cancelation for any one distracted from recent news due to the holidays.. However it is very unclear what "reschedule" means such as credit and rebook or cruise with confidence or cost or refunds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infosec123 Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, twangster said: You should also note that some onboard activities, such as ice skating, rock climbing, laser tag, production shows, Adventure Ocean, etc., could be impacted during your sailing, as we adjust our plans to ensure that the health of both our guests and crew remain our priority. That is transparency. Not liking what they stated does not make it not transparent. Ok, so what should we expect in two weeks? since you know Royal is being transparent in your opinion. How much time will my kids get at the kids club? Will they be able to use it one a day? Once again, since you say Royal is being transparent, this information should be available, that or you dont understand the definition of the word transparent... Okgladgal, Pooch, calvink669 and 2 others 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infosec123 Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, BrianB said: The fact is no one can tell you what to expect in two weeks. That’s clear to anyone following along with what’s been going on. They are pretty much telling everyone that with this new variant…expect changes, adjustments, cancellations and postponements of services and itineraries. And if you wish to not take the chance of being disappointed…maybe do not go on a cruise now. Ive been following very closely and other cruise lines have no problem telling people what to expect before they sail. Apparently Royal DOES have this problem but for some reason people think they are being transparent. calvink669 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorCruiser Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Ghost999, Cruiser4Life, WAYNO and 3 others 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, infosec123 said: Ive been following very closely and other cruise lines have no problem telling people what to expect before they sail. Apparently Royal DOES have this problem but for some reason people think they are being transparent. Things change quickly and frequently. Royal Caribbean doesn't have any more of a crystal ball predicting what things will be like in two weeks than anyone else. If you're unhappy with the way they are handling things, you should definitely reschedule at this time. Shipmate27, BrianB, RWDW1204 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted December 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Yep. I'm sure those other transparent cruise lines have no problem telling their guests to expect being denied ports...or expect positive crew cases after you sail...to expect adjustments to scheduled onboard activities because they planned on having less crew available... Royal should have done that too. Oh, wait............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infosec123 Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 hour ago, SpeedNoodles said: Things change quickly and frequently. Royal Caribbean doesn't have any more of a crystal ball predicting what things will be like in two weeks than anyone else. If you're unhappy with the way they are handling things, you should definitely reschedule at this time. Funny how other cruise lines are able to predict this, I wonder why. Oh wait, its because RCL is transparent! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infosec123 Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 29 minutes ago, BrianB said: Yep. I'm sure those other transparent cruise lines have no problem telling their guests to expect being denied ports...or expect positive crew cases after you sail...to expect adjustments to scheduled onboard activities because they planned on having less crew available... Royal should have done that too. Oh, wait............. Yep, they have no problem telling their customers that only a certain number of people are allowed in the pool at a time, or that they have a specific limited number of slots to use at the kids club on the ship. RCL cant manage to do that apparently, but they are transparent according to people who have no idea what the word transparent actually means! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, infosec123 said: Yep, they have no problem telling their customers that only a certain number of people are allowed in the pool at a time, or that they have a specific limited number of slots to use at the kids club on the ship. RCL cant manage to do that apparently, but they are transparent according to people who have no idea what the word transparent actually means! You should definitely cancel. BrianB, Reigert2008, Vancity Cruiser and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmondFarmer Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 42 minutes ago, infosec123 said: RCL cant manage to do that apparently, but they are transparent according to people who have no idea what the word transparent actually means! The windows on Royal ships are transparent. BrianB, SebagoSue and Lovetocruise2002 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorCruiser Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Carnival has some nice itineraries you may want to look into. Vancity Cruiser, RWDW1204 and BrianB 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 hours ago, infosec123 said: Ok, so what should we expect in two weeks? since you know Royal is being transparent in your opinion. How much time will my kids get at the kids club? Will they be able to use it one a day? Once again, since you say Royal is being transparent, this information should be available, that or you dont understand the definition of the word transparent... You should expect and will experience exactly what Royal is telling you - there could be some impact compared to the pre-pandemic experience. It's really that simple. If Royal was saying nothing at all, or suggesting there is no reason to expect any impact I would understand better your claim of non-transparency. SpeedNoodles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 I think a lot of people think they know what transparent means and actually don't. When it comes to the meaning in regard to services, RCG is right on point. @infosec123seems to not only expect transparency but a fortune reading into the future. They are telling you there might be changes in offerings because everything is up in the air. They don't have a crystal ball. Who knows how many people might test positive or cancel in those weeks? How many crew members might test positive or have to quarantine because of close contact? They can't offer 4 hours because of too many kids or too few crew, they are being transparent in not giving an exact number. That way they can manage expectation. BrianB, KristiZ and GatorCruiser 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost999 Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 21 hours ago, GatorCruiser said: Ditto! GatorCruiser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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