mworkman Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 Hmmm all vaccinated and it starts all over again. Now to see what happens, will the CDC use this to gain control again? Only time will tell. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article256353032.html cruisellama, Neesa, Swar and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Alt Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 10 out of 3200 people. not even 1% infected. I was going back in and forth with the dummies on twitter about this. CDC is investigating but I don't think this is anything to panic over. We can't stop the spread of this 100%. JasonOasis, Swar, Neesa and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 "“All of the identified cases onboard are asymptomatic,”" OK I'm confused. What prompted the testing in the first place then? This seems like one hell of a not-news story. But then there's this junk The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said the chance of getting COVID-19 on a cruise ship is high. The virus can spread easily in close quarters on a ship, the CDC said. But...it hasn't jticarruthers, Swar, Dan Curtis and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Alt Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 Who are these people? LOL Were they crew or passengers being retested for a B2B maybe? Either way it's sensationalism and alarmism. HBCcruiser, Neesa and JimnKathy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: What prompted the testing in the first place then? Exactly ! STOP testing healthy people ! Traveler, loki007, cruisellama and 7 others 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, D Alt said: Who are these people? LOL Were they crew or passengers being retested for a B2B maybe? Either way it's sensationalism and alarmism. NCL doesn't test standard passengers to disembark. So it'd have to be crew or B2B people. Neesa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 hour ago, smokeybandit said: OK I'm confused. What prompted the testing in the first place then? Usually someone goes to medical with mild symptoms like they are supposed to do and if they test positive they contract trace and test from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, AshleyDillo said: Usually someone goes to medical with mild symptoms like they are supposed to do and if they test positive they contract trace and test from there. The article said no one was symptomatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 22 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: The article said no one was symptomatic. Well I suppose with such quality journalism that it must be true. No clue why they would randomly test otherwise. The reports from the ship from the other messageboard site is they haven't started boarding yet and are going to require masks on this cruise. They're giving OBC and allowing folks to cancel for a refund as well. What a mess. Neesa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 That's some crazy panic response by RCL if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 I suppose if the media is involved they have to save face for PR and take it seriously. I know a lot of folks choose to sail NCL because they don't require masks and require 100% vaccinated sailings. Neesa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkelBierJay Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 is there any source for info on false positives? hysteria abounds and people want to panic and make controversy Neesa, Pattycruise and WAAAYTOOO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, DunkelBierJay said: is there any source for info on false positives? hysteria abounds and people want to panic and make controversy I would hope these 10 positives were confirmed with PCR tests on board before news got out. Neesa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisellama Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 Its stories like this that leads me to believe the CSO will remain in place (in some form) well into 2022. WAAAYTOOO and Neesa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonOasis Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, cruisellama said: Its stories like this that leads me to believe the CSO will remain in place (in some form) well into 2022. I don't think so, cruise lines operating out of the US have made it abundantly clear they will not be going back to "normal" operations when the CSO ends. I think all the lines have done a great job managing customer expectations as we head into 2022 and I would hope that would be enough for the CDC to drop the CSO. Also according to the Washington Post which just put out an article about the cruise industry they are saying from June through October they could only find 1,350 COVID cases out of an estimated 600,000 passengers who've boarded a cruise ship here in the US. https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2021/11/05/covid-cruise-cdc-positive-us/ What gets under my skin still is the continued flip flopping and/or double standard the cruise industry continues to face. The vaccines are meant to prevent serious illness, hospitalization and death as long as you're on land. But the moment you step foot on a cruise ship the CDC, NIH, and the news media all of a sudden believe the vaccines are supposed prevent 100% of all COVID cases. Having 10 people test positive on a cruise ship with over 3,200 people onboard shouldn't be cause for alarm especially when you have states like Illinois that have been averaging over 12,000 positive COVID cases every day for the past 10-11 days. HBCcruiser, IRMO12HD, teddy and 6 others 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neesa Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 No wonder Fain chose this time to leave, I'm sure he knew this would continue to drag on. This article is ridiculous, why not celebrate all the great practices in place.(even the not so great ones) When I checked in last week the girl scrutinized my paperwork from the doc in the box lab for what seemed an eternity regarding our test results. I used this facility before but would they not take it this time, it had everything on the check list, a moment of oh no! But I felt safe on the ship and enjoyed the new muster, hand sanitizer everywhere and people in general being more courteous about personal habits. On the first Adventure sailing in June the whole ship had to test before disembarking and there were zero cases, where was that article? cruisellama, WAAAYTOOO and JasonOasis 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mworkman Posted December 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 Oh boy..CNN is on it and now the numbers have increased If this take presidency in the news, watch for what isn’t and that will tell you what they don’t want to see what’s actually going on. https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/05/us/cruise-ship-norwegian-breakaway-covid-cases/index.html Neesa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, mworkman said: Oh boy..CNN is on it and now the numbers have increased If this take presidency in the news, watch for what isn’t and that will tell you what they don’t want to see what’s actually going on. https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/05/us/cruise-ship-norwegian-breakaway-covid-cases/index.html "All crew members and passengers are fully vaccinated and all of the 10 cases first reported were asymptomatic, the cruise line said in a statement Sunday." If there truly were no symptomatic people in the initial 10, then the only way they could have started testing is if one of the crew popped hot during routine testing. WAAAYTOOO and Neesa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Alt Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 Doesn't say still what prompted them to test people prior to disembarkation. Doesn't make sense. But still 17 out of of 3200 is good. Baked Alaska and cruisellama 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
904Duval Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 3 hours ago, D Alt said: Doesn't say still what prompted them to test people prior to disembarkation. Doesn't make sense. But still 17 out of of 3200 is good. Agree. Very confusing. It didn’t make sense why they tested if asymptomatic. Other travel sites mention a crew member who is from South Africa. All speculative at this point. Raises questions like- Did that S African person just join the cruise ship? And that person can’t be patient zero for the ship as the other positives are not Omicron (or not proven as such yet). Regardless, for past few months cruising been proven to be very safe with mandatory vaccinations and per embarkation testing. per 2 other travel sites- “reason for the concern: One of those cases, a South African crew member, is suspected to have the Omicron variant”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 Fortunately all the data so far shows Omicron as quite mild, and maybe not even a new variant. WAAAYTOOO, teddy and Baked Alaska 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 Another case of protocols working. Not newsworthy. Seriously if every employer and every school tested everyone every week there would be hundreds and thousands of cases popping up. Media would ignore it until one person said they were on a cruise ship, then it would make headlines. Stop reporting these things and stop clicking on the stories. The site traffic drives media to create more headlines like this. WAAAYTOOO, SpeedNoodles, Baked Alaska and 5 others 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 13 hours ago, twangster said: Stop reporting these things and stop clicking on the stories. The site traffic drives media to create more headlines like this. Please, this ^^^^^ DJnKy, ClaudiaM, teddy and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 14 hours ago, twangster said: Another case of protocols working. Not newsworthy. Seriously if every employer and every school tested everyone every week there would be hundreds and thousands of cases popping up. Media would ignore it until one person said they were on a cruise ship, then it would make headlines. Stop reporting these things and stop clicking on the stories. The site traffic drives media to create more headlines like this. Well said. Just imagine if everyone had to have a negative test to enter a supermarket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castle25 Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 16 hours ago, twangster said: Another case of protocols working. Not newsworthy. Seriously if every employer and every school tested everyone every week there would be hundreds and thousands of cases popping up. Media would ignore it until one person said they were on a cruise ship, then it would make headlines. Stop reporting these things and stop clicking on the stories. The site traffic drives media to create more headlines like this. well said - in the uk we are testing 15 times more people than other european countries but only have the same numbers of positives per 100k Baked Alaska 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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