Vlad Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 2 hours ago, JasonOasis said: If they are moving Symphony to Europe for the 2023 season is it possible that there will be no Oasis Class ship sailing out of Miami from May through the end of October of 2023? Assuming Oasis returns to Cape Liberty from May through October 2023, Harmony stays put at Port Canaveral, and Allure remains in Galveston, the only Oasis Class ship whose homeport is still up in the air is Wonder. But if she does finally make her way to China in 2023 that would leave both Miami and Fort Laurderdale without a single Oasis Class ship. Besides the 18 or so month COVID shut down and since the introduction of Oasis OTS when was the last time there wasn't an Oasis Class ship departing from South Florida during the spring and summer months? Interesting thinking, but Miami wouldn't be left without Oasis class ship. Never!!! New Terminal A cost them too much to leave it with oasis. It was build for very high capacity ships. And it's amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Plumlee2028 said: Harmony will likely be in Florida, maybe it moves from Orlando down to Miami. Or Icon may be at one of those for the year, or Oasis stays in Miami and Icon goes to NYC. Im starting to thing that maybe Wonder stays in the US and Oasis 6 gets built similarly and they send it to China in 2024. Give the market time to recover. Currently Spectrum is there and they could send Quantum back for a season if they want two ships there in 2023. Thats still quite a lot of capacity. With China, Royal is probably also considering that Carnival is putting a lot into their China operations now. They moved two costa ships into a "upscale" brand in China. In 2023 their newbuild in china (based on Carnival Vista) enters service. Thats a total of around 8000 berths between these three. Costa has Venizia and eventually Firenze should be there, that's another 8000 berths. The market was growing heavily but that clearly stunted. Holding off an extra couple of years on an Oasis class may not be a bad decision. Icon isn't planned to debut at least until fall 2023. Or later.... So many answers should be answered in next couple of weeks, when they release Europe and Caribbean 2023 itineraries. Probably till fall 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XtremeGK Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Vlad said: Icon isn't planned to debut at least until fall 2023. Or later.... So many answers should be answered in next couple of weeks, when they release Europe and Caribbean 2023 itineraries. Probably till fall 2023. Agreed. I wish we at least saw the deployment schedule to know which ships are going where. Genuinely interested which ship(s) will be homeporting in Cape Liberty in summer 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 Lesson learned. We were all set to book this...literally....then we couldn't...then it disappeared. I'm glad we now know how the deployment process works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 I wish I could figure out how to move the image so the text isn't placed like that. Edit: Well that's a bit better.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 I'm looking far ahead for SEPTEMBER'S 2023 for a special birthday celebration. That's the reason was thinking about maybe Europe itinerary. Alaska is is already colder in September and caribbean is hurricane season. Can't safely wait for September caribbean, it can be hit or miss due to weather conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattymay Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 I’m hoping Wonder stays in the US for 2023. AspiringCruisePlanner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattymay Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 Looks like there is some movement on Caribbean. Test itineraries not showing yet, but filters have just started working. Wonder and Mariner to sail from Orlando. Harmony from Miami. Allure from Galveston. AlmondFarmer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattymay Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 Here we go.. starbrat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 That Wonder pricing! Yikes. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, AshleyDillo said: That Wonder pricing! Yikes. That's Australian AUD NOT AMERICAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Vlad said: That's Australian AUD NOT AMERICAN That's still 1959.68 US for an inside. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 Exchange rate notwithstanding, just look at the difference in costs between the Harmony and Wonder sailing in AUD. That's quite a hefty new ship premium, especially when you consider the Harmony sailing is over prime summer season and the Wonder sailing displayed is at the very end of the summer season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, AshleyDillo said: Exchange rate notwithstanding, just look at the difference in costs between the Harmony and Wonder sailing in AUD. That's quite a hefty new ship premium, especially when you consider the Harmony sailing is over prime summer season and the Wonder sailing displayed is at the very end of the summer season. Prices will probably still drop a lot. Since that's still almost 2 yrs away. I've bough cruise on symphony in 2022. Price was 2200 for balcony. Now price is 1700. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 Ultimately if it sells well prices will be high, if it doesn't sell well, prices will drop. When you think about it, we (collectively) set the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mycalpal Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 On 12/1/2021 at 12:41 PM, Matt said: No, Radiance Class. But Serenade is doing world cruise Interesting, Matt just posted a great video on the value of the smaller Royal ships. Could be with Royal adding the new World Cruise for Serenade they are actually having to play a shell game with their remaining smaller ships? Enchantment is leaving Baltimore and it is being replaced by Vision. Radiance is coming to New Orleans this fall, but when it leaves the cruises from New Orleans stop, at least for the rest of 2023. Maybe they should have held on to Majesty a bit longer? Baltimore requires smaller ships. Is that also true of New Orleans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, Mycalpal said: Baltimore requires smaller ships. Is that also true of New Orleans? No, large ships can sail out of New Orleans (the Norwegian Breakaway sails out of NO). Mycalpal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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