Jax Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 Finally! More details to be announced tomorrow (Wednesday).Β https://trib.al/xHONPzH?fbclid=IwAR17NNGDToyw-HjA5S7OeEL3M308SM9jKKEYvoJK1cA9S5aKnh7QTZ202mI Β Lovetocruise2002, DJsMrs, sammy79 and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 Oh thank God! Thatβs all! twangster, PG Cruiser, WAAAYTOOO and 6 others 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 Great news, but you'd think they could at least provide an actual date.Β After 19 months being closed and they can't tell when other than "early November".Β That 3 weeks away, or 5 weeks away. Cancelling my late October trip to see family.Β Β WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Pheasey Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 Would they ever just let us know what date!Β Harmony Transatlantic leaves Spain on 31st October and arrives in USA on 13th November.Β RCI have said they will cancel all non-US citizens the week before the sailing if they do not have a date from the US.Β Β Neesa and twangster 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 @Lovetocruise2002Β What time are you coming over for dinner? Great news! Lovetocruise2002 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene Desmarais Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 If the CDC can approve the Mixed MNRA vaccine dosing, then my wife would be able to travel with us in Jan 2022. Fingers crossed WAAAYTOOO and Jax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recogneyes Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 So much uncertainty as to what the WHO and/or CDC will approve.Β Of the 3.9 million Canadians who have two different doses of Health Canada-approved COVID-19 vaccines, approximately 1.6 million had a dose of AZ followed by an mRNA vaccine (according to the Public Health Agency of Canada).Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 What a bureaucratic mess. You need to be vaccinated to cross the land border, but you may not need to prove it. But if you fly in by plane, you need to double your documentation. Β Foreign visitors crossing into the United States by land or ferry will need to be vaccinated but will not necessarily need to show proof of vaccination unless they are referred by U.S. Customs and Border Patrol for secondary inspections. Β By contrast, all non-U.S. air travelers will need to show proof of vaccination before boarding a flight, and will need to show proof of a recent negative COVID-19 test. Foreign visitors crossing a land border will not need to show proof of a recent negative COVID-19 test. WAAAYTOOO and Rene Desmarais 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 43 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: What a bureaucratic mess. You need to be vaccinated to cross the land border, but you may not need to prove it. But if you fly in by plane, you need to double your documentation. Β Foreign visitors crossing into the United States by land or ferry will need to be vaccinated but will not necessarily need to show proof of vaccination unless they are referred by U.S. Customs and Border Patrol for secondary inspections. Β By contrast, all non-U.S. air travelers will need to show proof of vaccination before boarding a flight, and will need to show proof of a recent negative COVID-19 test. Foreign visitors crossing a land border will not need to show proof of a recent negative COVID-19 test. Made worse too by the fact that technically the border has been closed all this time but flying visitors have been allowed to come to the US from Canada.Β The official verbiage said it's closed but it was closed softly with no testing or vaccine required for most of the 19 month closure.Β Β Once again the CDCΒ is right on top of things!Β #toolittletoolateΒ Vancity Cruiser and WAAAYTOOO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob&Ana Posted October 14, 2021 Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 I guess your PCR test to get back into Canada (for like a day trip) could be done before you leave....Not sure the cost would warrant a day trip... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted October 14, 2021 Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Rob&Ana said: I guess your PCR test to get back into Canada (for like a day trip) could be done before you leave....Not sure the cost would warrant a day trip... PCR tests are free in the US (for US citizens), covered by the federal government if private health insurance doesn't cover it. Rapid PCR tests may not be free.Β The rapid tests offered in airports is not free.Β Walmart, CVS, Walgreens and others offer free PCR tests that take ~ 48 hours for results. DJsMrs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted October 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 We have a date: Nov 8th https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/u-s-land-borders-to-reopen-to-vaccinated-travellers-nov-8-1.5624368?fbclid=IwAR0nGKFL4ewr8n3CAm72QQc_SC4v6FSQ8ZK5n2jU3_f5c_wP2jdS4-xiliY SPS and WAAAYTOOO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, Jax said: We have a date: Nov 8th https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/u-s-land-borders-to-reopen-to-vaccinated-travellers-nov-8-1.5624368?fbclid=IwAR0nGKFL4ewr8n3CAm72QQc_SC4v6FSQ8ZK5n2jU3_f5c_wP2jdS4-xiliY It amazes me that this topic has largely been ignored by US media. teddy, 4ensic and cruisellama 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, smokeybandit said: It amazes me that this topic has largely been ignored by US media. AddΒ " and Canadians are heading to cruise ships" and the media will run it.Β Anything with cruise ship in the title, related in even a minor way to the pandemic, will be front page.Β Β IRMO12HD, 4ensic and WAAAYTOOO 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancity Cruiser Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 3 hours ago, twangster said: AddΒ " and Canadians are heading to cruise ships" and the media will run it.Β Anything with cruise ship in the title, related in even a minor way to the pandemic, will be front page.Β Β So true unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, Canadian-Cruiser said: Hence the travel warning still up on the government of Canada site about avoiding all cruise ship travel that basically all Canadian travel insurance carriers are citing when it comes to exclusions in covid insurance coverage. Be interesting to see if they still say that after "opening" the ports to cruise ships soon. If cruise ships are a threat and should be avoided, why allow them into port? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancity Cruiser Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, twangster said: Be interesting to see if they still say that after "opening" the ports to cruise ships soon. If cruise ships are a threat and should be avoided, why allow them into port? Itβs the same situation in the US is it not? CDC recommends avoiding cruise ship travel but is allowing ships to sail nonetheless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Vancity Cruiser said: Itβs the same situation in the US is it not? CDC recommends avoiding cruise ship travel but is allowing ships to sail nonetheless? Actually the CDC backed off the absolute don't cruise mantra several months ago.Β It became: CDC recommends that travelers areΒ fully vaccinatedΒ against COVID-19 prior to traveling on a cruise ship. Travelers who are at anΒ increased risk of severe illnessΒ from COVID-19 should avoid travel on cruise ships, including river cruises, worldwide, regardless of vaccination status. WAAAYTOOO and DJsMrs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 My wife just got back from a few days in Canada.Β While not quite the same as Canadians coming down, she said the process on each side was easy as long as you have all your ducks in a row....testing, vaccination card, etc. Β Lovetocruise2002 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, teddy said: My wife just got back from a few days in Canada.Β While not quite the same as Canadians coming down, she said the process on each side was easy as long as you have all your ducks in a row....testing, vaccination card, etc. Β Fly or drive?Β I'm going to drive across later this month and drive back.Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, twangster said: Fly or drive?Β I'm going to drive across later this month and drive back.Β Β She drove up and back.Β Β Unlike Royal, Canada counts hours for the test to enter. It must be within 72 hours of entry. Β PCR only.Β Β No problems crossing back into the States. Β She has dual citizenship therefore can travel on her American passport.Β Her sister, who went with her, is still a Canadian citizen and had no problems getting back in the states with her Canadian passport and US resident alien card.Β Β Β Β Β WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, teddy said: She drove up and back.Β Β Unlike Royal, Canada counts hours for the test to enter. It must be within 72 hours of entry. Β PCR only.Β Yeah.Β Allure's GSM promised to do a PCR for me and as long my travel plans hold, I'm compliant with 72 clock hours. teddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 The land crossing vaccination check will begin in January 22. Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 Washington Post reports the US Government is looking to introduce new restrictions on entering the country by air, including 1 day pre-flight testing instead of 3 and possibly to include a 7 day quarantine.Β FYI for Canadians flying to the USA for a cruise or Americans cruising out of foreign ports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WannaCruise Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 55 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: Washington Post reports the US Government is looking to introduce new restrictions on entering the country by air, including 1 day pre-flight testing instead of 3 and possibly to include a 7 day quarantine.Β FYI for Canadians flying to the USA for a cruise or Americans cruising out of foreign ports. That's ridiculous.Β They are basically shutting their borders...as who can add 7 days prior to any trip (business or pleasure). Is this air only?Β Our plan was to drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 I'd be shocked if the quarantine part was included just due to how impossible it'd be to enforce. WAAAYTOOO and Jax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted December 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 This article was updated this morning, confirming what others have said about anticipated changes to testing protocols and more. Ughhttps://globalnews.ca/news/8415501/us-covid-travel-rules-omicron-variant/ WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggbert Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 47 minutes ago, WannaCruise said: That's ridiculous.Β They are basically shutting their borders...as who can add 7 days prior to any trip (business or pleasure). Is this air only?Β Our plan was to drive. Not going to happen. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 Testing change...doable. We have to test for the cruise anyway. Quarantine...the nail in the coffin.Β WAAAYTOOO and Jax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted December 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: Quarantine...the nail in the coffin.Β agree. I donβt see quarantine as a viable option because how do theyΒ enforce itβ¦but we have seen stranger things happen throughout this pandemic so anything is possible. Letβs hope for some encouraging news tomorrow. Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 The CDC has so far been following the science... that the virus only travels by airplane since the land border is open without any testing requirement to enter the US.Β Β Note to self. Always travel with a couple of eMed kits in my carry on just in case.Β Β I hope they continue to leave the land border alone.Β Pretty soon I'll need a full car office with printer, scanner, eMed kits, small kitchen to cook food and make coffee while waiting for results, etc.Β Maybe I should buy a motorhome.Β Looking down the road (pun intended) to when both sides land border require a test to enter... So what happens when you drive across a border bridge and reach the other side without a test?Β Can't go forward without a test and can't go back into the source country without a test.Β Stuck on the bridge. "Bridge People". What happens if you catch the virus while stuck on the bridge between the two countries?Β Hmmm.Β Note to self - stay well away from other Bridge People.Β Β LovetoCruise87, SebagoSue, JR&EM and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, twangster said: Maybe I should buy a motorhome.Β You do that and you better be coming over for dinner! lol twangster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 Looks like this is the plan.Β That March 18 extension for the mask mandate should be of note to cruisers. But getting at-home tests covered is nice, assuming they are covered for travel purposes. Β Requiring travelers entering the country by air to test negative for COVID within a day of departure, regardless of vaccination status or nationality, instead of within three days. Extending through March 18 the requirement that masks be worn onΒ airplanes, trains and public transportation. Requiring private health insurance companies cover 100% of the cost of at-home tests for the coronavirus.Β Β Launching a publicΒ education campaign to encourage 100 million adults to get boosters, with a special focus on seniors. WAAAYTOOO, WannaCruise and Rene Desmarais 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WannaCruise Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 28 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: Looks like this is the plan.Β Β Β Requiring travelers entering the country by air to test negative for COVID within a day of departure, regardless of vaccination status or nationality, instead of within three days. Extending through March 18 the requirement that masks be worn onΒ airplanes, trains and public transportation. Requiring private health insurance companies cover 100% of the cost of at-home tests for the coronavirus.Β Β Launching a publicΒ education campaign to encourage 100 million adults to get boosters, with a special focus on seniors. This is good news.Β We would test the day before anyways if flying (or day of if driving) so no impact. Rene Desmarais 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 Not great for people crossing the pond for cruises, but fully understand the reasoning behind the implementation of these measures.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 As long as both sides don't touch the land border, I also will be good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted December 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 So far so good I am more worried about Trudeau changing protocols while we are away.Β WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Its official now "All air passengers 2 years or older with a flight departing to the US from a foreign country at or afterΒ 12:01am EST (5:01am GMT) on December 6, 2021,Β are required show a negative COVID-19 viral test result taken no more than 1 day before travel, or documentation of having recovered from COVID-19 in the past 90 days, before they board their flight." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html Jax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmariegold97 Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 On 12/2/2021 at 7:04 AM, Ray said: Not great for people crossing the pond for cruises, but fully understand the reasoning behind the implementation of these measures.Β Especially with the new 24 hour testing requirement coming in now with 24 hours for all air travel. Makes it difficult to spend time in the US pre cruise for a few days, now its basically fly in day before, and board ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 On 12/5/2021 at 11:51 PM, cmariegold97 said: Especially with the new 24 hour testing requirement coming in now with 24 hours for all air travel. Makes it difficult to spend time in the US pre cruise for a few days, now its basically fly in day before, and board ship. In that scenario wouldn't it be a simple matter of getting another test once in the US? Many Canadians are taking advantage of the free testing at CVS & Walgreens to get tested once in the US.Β However since testing isn't free in Canada the cost of a second test in the US isn't an outrageous concept if you want to spend a week or even 3 or 4 days in the US before a cruise.Β Β Either way it isn't the 24 hour test to fly rule that causes a second test to be required for anyone spending time before a cruise.Β The 2 day test to cruise rule that has been in place since September is the rule that complicates a pre-cruise vacation in the US.Β That rule is something we all have faced since September.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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