DunwoodyDad Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 Just read the story on Matt’s blog and I’m curious what everyone thinks Richard Fain meant by this: "Our focus is therefore on 2022, not the remaining months of 2021," Mr. Fain admitted. "Obviously, we don't like giving up on any period, but we are more determined to do well in 2022 and 2023, even if that means accepting short term hits this year." So for 2021 does this mean big discounts to sell more of the empty cabins (even with reduced capacity) and take the a hit on passenger margins? Or maintain pricing and continue to sail with very empty ships? I’m assuming he doesn’t mean cancelling some very empty sailings in order to maintain operations going into 2022. Thoughts? full story: https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2021/09/23/royal-caribbean-group-ceo-looks-2022-when-cruise-bookings-really-take LifesEz and MamaShark 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Diego Garrett Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 I took it as things staying the same through the end of the year. Low occupancy will be the norm until 2022, so I wouldn't think they would have lower rates to get more people aboard. LifesEz, SpeedNoodles and cruisellama 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 Yeah I think he means the sales will be blah, no point in trying very hard to get people top book in 2021 with all the testing and restrictions. Instead focus all their energy and resources on improving bookings for 2022. I also think he has given up on the CDC being "fair" Neesa, jticarruthers, Baked Alaska and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 I fully expect the CSO to be extended through the spring LifesEz, cruisellama, Cruise Pirate and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXcruzer Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 56 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: I fully expect the CSO to be extended through the spring No question about it. Ampurp85, LifesEz, cruisellama and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisellama Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 The mitigation protocols must be working as we'd hear about it in the headlines. Even if the CSO is lifted, as much as I dislike some of the inconsistent protocols, it would be prudent for the lines to be "PC" about it (and continue) through '21 and maybe early '22. The enthusiastic base will continue jumping through the hoops, but the protocols can dissuade the new clientele who drove the need for larger and more extravagant ships. " Cooperate and graduate (for now)" LifesEz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jticarruthers Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 43 minutes ago, cruisellama said: The mitigation protocols must be working as we'd hear about it in the headlines. Even if the CSO is lifted, as much as I dislike some of the inconsistent protocols, it would be prudent for the lines to be "PC" about it (and continue) through '21 and maybe early '22. The enthusiastic base will continue jumping through the hoops, but the protocols can dissuade the new clientele who drove the need for larger and more extravagant ships. " Cooperate and graduate (for now)" Coming out of Florida its some of the opposite reaction when I try and convince others to go ... why would I want to pay money to deal with more protocols (testing, masking, restricting access to areas of the ship) than we have in place on land. cruisellama, LifesEz and Yo2slick 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 11 hours ago, Ampurp85 said: Yeah I think he means the sales will be blah, no point in trying very hard to get people top book in 2021 with all the testing and restrictions. Instead focus all their energy and resources on improving bookings for 2022. I also think he has given up on the CDC being "fair" Yes, that is my understanding as well. Remember, this video was made for travel agents. LifesEz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 So my cruise accounted for 7 of the entire fleet's 41? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryresangel Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 2 hours ago, smokeybandit said: So my cruise accounted for 7 of the entire fleet's 41? How long was your cruise? I doubt they will be getting a lot of COVID cases off the 3 day ones (that's my first planned cruise). Even if someone had it, it may not be enough time to actually track transmission. My guess is you will see more cases on longer cruises, because it may be difficult to say if someone contracted it on a 3-day cruise vice getting it on a plane or on shore before the cruise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 19 minutes ago, bryresangel said: How long was your cruise? I doubt they will be getting a lot of COVID cases off the 3 day ones (that's my first planned cruise). Even if someone had it, it may not be enough time to actually track transmission. My guess is you will see more cases on longer cruises, because it may be difficult to say if someone contracted it on a 3-day cruise vice getting it on a plane or on shore before the cruise. 7 day cruise. But the odds of any of those 7 being contracted on board are slim. If there was a documented case of covid spread on board, it'd be front page news HeWhoWaits and LifesEz 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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twangster Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Made for travel agents also knowing investors will see it. Seems about right. Fain has a keen mind for the cruise industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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