Bowen Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 I figured you'd post about it if you saw it, but just in case there's been word and I haven't seen it. Have the powers that be mentioned anything since the news is now reporting that another booster will be recommended 8 months after your second dose? Will you have to have a third shot in order to be consider fully vaccinated? Thanks! WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvstodans Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bowen said: I figured you'd post about it if you saw it, but just in case there's been word and I haven't seen it. Have the powers that be mentioned anything since the news is now reporting that another booster will be recommended 8 months after your second dose? Will you have to have a third shot in order to be consider fully vaccinated? Thanks! Only a target population qualities for the booster per CDC... What qualifies as immunocompromised for Covid vaccine booster? So, who exactly qualifies for the additional shot? The CDC recommendation applies to people who are moderately to severely immunocompromised, such as cancer patients, those who have received organ or bone marrow transplants, people who have an immune deficiency, and people with advanced or untreated HIV.4 days ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantix2000 Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 30 minutes ago, luvstodans said: Only a target population qualities for the booster per CDC... I think Bowen is referring to today's news that a booster shot will be recommended 8 months after your original shots. It's not official yet and it's way too early for Royal to have announced a position on this. teddy and barbeyg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaconso Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 CDC hasn't made the formal recommendation yet for 8-month booster for all - it's "being reported" that this will be the case, so likely will be the case "soon". I expect that once the formal recommendation is made, then the time-line will be firmed-up (they're saying 8-months, since it's a 6-12 month "window" for the booster after full vaccination). For myself, my 2nd Pfizer was on 4/12, so my full vaccination date was 4/26 - which would place my 8-month Booster at/around xmas, with the "window" being from October - April. Royal will evaluate and make changes down the line, but I wouldn't expect anything right-away. If I were to place a bet, it would likely be that they require you be "fully vaccinated" within the past 12 months AND/OR have a booster logged within the past 12 months (since, this will likely be something akin to an annual Flu-shot as variants die/emerge/compete - like the Flu variants). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 But typical for the CDC, they didn't accompany that announcement with any research explaining why. barbeyg, luvstodans, Jkaczano and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaconso Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: But typical for the CDC, they didn't accompany that announcement with any research explaining why. They did for the current immunocompromised booster recommendation, but they haven't for the general booster, since that's not been formally announced yet - it's a leak/trial-balloon/float to gauge public response and start discussion. There is data/research supporting the immunocompromised linked in/with that formal announcement and I expect there will be similar linked data/research with the general recommendation (if it happens). Some of this is driven by the data from Israel where they're already doing these boosters, since they're ahead of the rest of the world with vaccination and have seen the vaccine immune response wane over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNCFanatik Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 32 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: But typical for the CDC, they didn't accompany that announcement with any research explaining why. Cause they said so! Thats why! They dont need no stinkin data or valid studies. They are the all powerful CDC! If you question them you are a science denier! Heretic! steverk, Pooch, Jkaczano and 4 others 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 37 minutes ago, Jaconso said: They did for the current immunocompromised booster recommendation, but they haven't for the general booster, since that's not been formally announced yet - it's a leak/trial-balloon/float to gauge public response and start discussion. There is data/research supporting the immunocompromised linked in/with that formal announcement and I expect there will be similar linked data/research with the general recommendation (if it happens). Some of this is driven by the data from Israel where they're already doing these boosters, since they're ahead of the rest of the world with vaccination and have seen the vaccine immune response wane over time. Yes, there is solid data supporting boosters for immunocompromised. But even for them, I wish there was a quick and easy test to say "yes, you need the booster" vs "we'll just assume you need it since you had a kidney transplant" WAAAYTOOO, barbeyg and luvstodans 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisellama Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 Part of the discussion recommended those with other weakened conditions get the boosters first, so that might play into any published policy. Anyone's guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 No update from Royal one way or another. And FWIW, I agree with @Atlantix2000 that it's simply too early to know what to expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLMoran Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 59 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: But even for them, I wish there was a quick and easy test to say "yes, you need the booster" vs "we'll just assume you need it since you had a kidney transplant" I am only guessing here, but my guess is that the driving factor is antibody levels in the blood. My MIL got her two Pfizer shots in between rounds of chemo, and a recent antibody test she took confirmed she still has antibodies but not the level. So she is going to get another antibody test that will confirm levels and then judge how fast to sign up for her booster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-08-greece-fully-vaccinated-covid-death.html Obviously governments are concerned about the delta variant and the possibility of new strains in the future which is why boosters have been mentioned by various governments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 The WHO has advised against boosters for the gen pop due to lack of first vaccine access in poorer countries. WAAAYTOOO and JLMoran 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaritimeR&R Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 I can not speak as to how the who and the when of receiving a booster shot will be handled by each state, but I live in NY (not the city) and received my Moderna booster last week. I had my original doses back on Jan 18 and Feb. 14 respectively. The decision as to whether or not I should get the booster shot immediately was reached by a consensus of specialists that I see regularly. My antibody levels were not tested; they used other criteria to make their decision. I think that if anyone is unsure as to if and when they need a booster or not, they should speak with their physician. . USCG Teacher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen Posted August 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 Pfizer just said they could have a new shot ready within 35 days of a new variant, so at least they're looking ahead. Vancity Cruiser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Bowen said: Pfizer just said they could have a new shot ready within 35 days of a new variant, so at least they're looking ahead. One of the great benefits of the mRNA vaccine concept is that it's quite easy to develop a new vaccine since all the vaccine is is sending a new message to the body Rob&Ana 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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