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I’m guessing this testing requirement is going to be around for a long time. The Delta variant is still going strong and after that there will probably be a bunch of other ‘variants’ coming and going. Especially through the winter months and into the spring. Seems like there are some who selfishly just don’t want this pandemic to go away…and I don’t mean health-wise. They need it so they can stay relevant…or prosperous…or in control. Shame. Just my opinion.

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14 hours ago, CGTLH said:

Right now policy applies until December 31st for Florida sailings.

Details can be seen at: https://www.royalcaribbean.com/faq/questions/will-i-have-to-take-a-test-before-i-cruise#florida

Thank you... For some reason that top line wasnl showing when I went to the page. Needed to redo my cookies... 

 

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11 hours ago, Tyro said:

For those that are struggling to find cheap/ free tests, try www.emed.com you will get 6 tests for $150 and they will proctor your test at home via zoom and send you a lab report with results that you can then use for the cruise. 

I never head of this so I looked it up. Thanks for the info!
 Do you know if RC will accept it as a test?  I’ve heard they do not allow at home testing and this seems to be a mix of the at home/site test. 
Testing here is only free with a Dr referral so it will cost us $150 per test. 

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1 hour ago, Esmom said:

I never head of this so I looked it up. Thanks for the info!
 Do you know if RC will accept it as a test?  I’ve heard they do not allow at home testing and this seems to be a mix of the at home/site test. 
Testing here is only free with a Dr referral so it will cost us $150 per test. 

I havnt checked with royal, but since you get a lab report I don’t think they have any way to know that it was at home vs a site. I do know that John Heald from carnival confirmed that these tests would be accepted, so I would expect royal to have the same guidelines. 

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1 hour ago, Tyro said:

I havnt checked with royal, but since you get a lab report I don’t think they have any way to know that it was at home vs a site. I do know that John Heald from carnival confirmed that these tests would be accepted, so I would expect royal to have the same guidelines. 

If they do go that route to accept certain home tests, they have to be very specific about which ones they will accept. They sell test at home kits in the stores that are done without any sort of supervision, which I think they wouldn't consider acceptable results.  If the rumor gets out at-home testing is accepted, I know many folks would get confused and think they could take these other at-home tests such as the BinaxNOW which wouldn't be accepted for traveling.

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22 minutes ago, AshleyDillo said:

I havnt checked with royal, but since you get a lab report I don’t think they have any way to know that it was at home vs a site. I do know that John Heald from carnival confirmed that these tests would be accepted, so I would expect royal to have the same guidelines. 

I just had to get a test today because someone I work with tested positive. Thankfully I tested negative, but the report that I got has the lab name and the name of the ARPN as well as my name, address, type of test, the date of the test, and the result. I think Royal will want something like that. I don't see them accepting home tests. 

Still have to do another test in about two weeks for our Aug 22 sailing

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46 minutes ago, AshleyDillo said:

If they do go that route to accept certain home tests, they have to be very specific about which ones they will accept. They sell test at home kits in the stores that are done without any sort of supervision, which I think they wouldn't consider acceptable results.  If the rumor gets out at-home testing is accepted, I know many folks would get confused and think they could take these other at-home tests such as the BinaxNOW which wouldn't be accepted for traveling.

 

41 minutes ago, LovetoCruise87 said:

I just had to get a test today because someone I work with tested positive. Thankfully I tested negative, but the report that I got has the lab name and the name of the ARPN as well as my name, address, type of test, the date of the test, and the result. I think Royal will want something like that. I don't see them accepting home tests. 

Still have to do another test in about two weeks for our Aug 22 sailing

This test is a supervised at home test, that is FDA approved, so the end result will be a lab report like any other test on site. It wouldn’t be like buying an OTC test and showing royal a picture of the test screen saying it is negative since you had one line instead of two. 

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I did log into my Vault account (the company that administers the saliva PCR testing in Minnesota).  I was able to download an actual report for my 'vid test.  These are done at home under Zoom supervision.  Nowhere on the report does it say it was taken at  home.  It lists everything else (name, DOB, physician, type of test).  That being said, while I've reliably gotten results back in 3 days for these, they rely on UPS overnight shipping and I'm not sure I'd be comfortable chancing that for a cruise.  Walgreens or CVS it is.

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38 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said:

I did log into my Vault account (the company that administers the saliva PCR testing in Minnesota).  I was able to download an actual report for my 'vid test.  These are done at home under Zoom supervision.  Nowhere on the report does it say it was taken at  home.  It lists everything else (name, DOB, physician, type of test).  That being said, while I've reliably gotten results back in 3 days for these, they rely on UPS overnight shipping and I'm not sure I'd be comfortable chancing that for a cruise.  Walgreens or CVS it is.

We are going to use Walgreens or CVS as well.

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Royal Caribbean is starting to get their act together identifying the allowable COVID tests. Finally.

Where Do I Take A RT-PCR Test And Submit The Results Before Cruising? | Royal Caribbean Cruises

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They actually refer to the complete list of FDA approved tests, too: In Vitro Diagnostics EUAs - Molecular Diagnostic Tests for SARS-CoV-2 | FDA

And an important addition is the use of home tests as long as they are supervised. This basically makes 15-minute tests accessible to anybody, anywhere as long as they can do a video conference online and order the necessary test in advance to have on hand when the test has to be performed. One of the first in this category is Abbott's BinaxNOW COVID-19 Ag At-Home Test.

Abbott’s BinaxNOW™ COVID-19 Ag At-Home Test Kit 6 Pack (emed.com)

Travelers can now buy CDC-approved at-home COVID-19 tests for just $50 (thepointsguy.com)

 

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Hi Dswallow
i just went to the RC web site to get the link to the specific test and it looks like their answer to the test question has changed ( unless I’m looking at it wrong  ). They no longer have any mention of home tests supervised or not. Things are changing so fast, it makes my head spin.  

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If I need to take an antigen or PCR COVID-19 test before my cruise where should I go? Are there any considerations I need to take when finding the right test provider? How soon do I need results back and where do I submit the results?

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Many health providers and chain drug stores, including Walgreens and CVS, now offer COVID-19 testing for work, travel and other reasons. Some things to keep in mind when scheduling your test:

  • Make sure that you are familiar with the testing timeframe required for your specific port of departure – most of our ports of departure require that you take the test no more than 3 days before your sail date.
  • Make sure that your selected provider is able to provide your results in time for your travel. 
  • How to calculate “3 days before”: The day you set sail is not included as one of the days. So for example, if you are setting sail on a Saturday, you can take your test on Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday before. 
  • Print out your test results if possible to facilitate easy access, as you may need to present them at various points. At the terminal, we will also accept test results presented on your phone, like the results email from your testing provider. It should include your name, the date the test was taken, type of test, and your negative result.
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1 hour ago, Esmom said:

 

Hi Dswallow
i just went to the RC web site to get the link to the specific test and it looks like their answer to the test question has changed ( unless I’m looking at it wrong  ). They no longer have any mention of home tests supervised or not. Things are changing so fast, it makes my head spin.  

Q

If I need to take an antigen or PCR COVID-19 test before my cruise where should I go? Are there any considerations I need to take when finding the right test provider? How soon do I need results back and where do I submit the results?

A

 

 

Many health providers and chain drug stores, including Walgreens and CVS, now offer COVID-19 testing for work, travel and other reasons. Some things to keep in mind when scheduling your test:

  • Make sure that you are familiar with the testing timeframe required for your specific port of departure – most of our ports of departure require that you take the test no more than 3 days before your sail date.
  • Make sure that your selected provider is able to provide your results in time for your travel. 
  • How to calculate “3 days before”: The day you set sail is not included as one of the days. So for example, if you are setting sail on a Saturday, you can take your test on Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday before. 
  • Print out your test results if possible to facilitate easy access, as you may need to present them at various points. At the terminal, we will also accept test results presented on your phone, like the results email from your testing provider. It should include your name, the date the test was taken, type of test, and your negative result.

Just a couple lines above where you quoted there is a link that says "see a link of currently accepted tests" this will take you to a  CDC website that lists all acceptable tests

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1 hour ago, Esmom said:

 

Hi Dswallow
i just went to the RC web site to get the link to the specific test and it looks like their answer to the test question has changed ( unless I’m looking at it wrong  ). They no longer have any mention of home tests supervised or not. Things are changing so fast, it makes my head spin.  

Q

If I need to take an antigen or PCR COVID-19 test before my cruise where should I go? Are there any considerations I need to take when finding the right test provider? How soon do I need results back and where do I submit the results?

A

 

 

Many health providers and chain drug stores, including Walgreens and CVS, now offer COVID-19 testing for work, travel and other reasons. Some things to keep in mind when scheduling your test:

  • Make sure that you are familiar with the testing timeframe required for your specific port of departure – most of our ports of departure require that you take the test no more than 3 days before your sail date.
  • Make sure that your selected provider is able to provide your results in time for your travel. 
  • How to calculate “3 days before”: The day you set sail is not included as one of the days. So for example, if you are setting sail on a Saturday, you can take your test on Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday before. 
  • Print out your test results if possible to facilitate easy access, as you may need to present them at various points. At the terminal, we will also accept test results presented on your phone, like the results email from your testing provider. It should include your name, the date the test was taken, type of test, and your negative result.

I actually went through this myself yesterday. Someone posted the new/changed info that I just screenshotted above, but when I went there, I kept seeing the older info that you just posted. This morning finally it updated for me. All I can suggest here is check later tonight and maybe tomorrow; perhaps then whatever is going on behind the scenes with how this information is distributed on Royal's web site finally gets updated for everyone.

 

Till you finally get the update yourself, the FDA link I posted is what Royal links to on that page.

 

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1 hour ago, avidtravelgeek said:

"Additionally, home/self-tests will not be accepted unless documentation from a medical professional that they were supervised can be provided."

Does eMed provide this documentation for the BINAXNOW™ COVID-19 Ag CARD HOME TEST that is supervised by a certified guide? 

The only way you'll get the results provided via the Navica app (that's Abbott's app to provide test results officially) is if you're doing it from a proctored session. You can always just use the test card and see the results on your own, if all you care about is seeing your own results. But the only folks who can send the results to your app are the ones who are monitoring you while taking the test. So if you can show your results in the app, that's proof it was administered properly.

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17 minutes ago, dswallow said:

The only way you'll get the results provided via the Navica app (that's Abbott's app to provide test results officially) is if you're doing it from a proctored session. You can always just use the test card and see the results on your own, if all you care about is seeing your own results. But the only folks who can send the results to your app are the ones who are monitoring you while taking the test. So if you can show your results in the app, that's proof it was administered properly.

Thanks! Now, another issue to deal with... https://thepointsguy.com/news/long-wait-times-binax-now-at-home-covid-test/

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28 minutes ago, avidtravelgeek said:

 

Just for fun, I created an account and tried to initiate a test session. Could be worse, I suppose. That article seems to imply a family would be doing this serially via a single computer or smartphone, but I would expect everyone likely has access to multiple devices, and there's no reason you couldn't use every device you have to begin testing sessions and get through them more quickly. It's still a decent option for people in more out-of-the-way areas. And even someone like me in an area with plenty of places to go would be looking at 30-40 minutes round trip travel time plus any waiting for the process to begin once getting somewhere that can do it, then the same wait for results.


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45 minutes ago, dswallow said:

 

Just for fun, I created an account and tried to initiate a test session. Could be worse, I suppose. That article seems to imply a family would be doing this serially via a single computer or smartphone, but I would expect everyone likely has access to multiple devices, and there's no reason you couldn't use every device you have to begin testing sessions and get through them more quickly. It's still a decent option for people in more out-of-the-way areas. And even someone like me in an area with plenty of places to go would be looking at 30-40 minutes round trip travel time plus any waiting for the process to begin once getting somewhere that can do it, then the same wait for results.


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That's not too bad. 

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On 8/7/2021 at 11:12 AM, dswallow said:

Royal Caribbean is starting to get their act together identifying the allowable COVID tests. Finally.

Where Do I Take A RT-PCR Test And Submit The Results Before Cruising? | Royal Caribbean Cruises

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@dswallow please offer an opinion.

Based of the statement above "Two types of viral tests are accepted: NAAT tests (PCR is a common type of NAAT test) and antigen tests."

I think the following test from a Walgreens IS acceptable

IDNOW COVID-19 rapid diagnostic test (nucleic acid amplification test NAAT)

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