twangster Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 Looks like they will take any crew on Anthem that has a current US crew visa and transfer them to Odyssey. Odyssey crew without a current US visa will move to Anthem. Then Odyssey can begin to cross the Atlantic. Based on the crew member video Odyssey could arrive into Florida the first week of June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 My opinion is RC cancelled primarily because they couldn't get the crew vaccinated in time, and Israel wouldn't sell them the vaccine. Meanwhile, there has been a tremendous amount of progress back in USA with restrictions being lifted. Enter the Gaza conflict, and RC has a perfect escape plan to cancel without calling out the Israeli government and/or their own inability to get their crew vaccinated as planned. I think if this were February and covid restrictions in the US were still quite strict, that perhaps Royal only cancels a few sailings to buy more time to find a vaccine solution. But grass is starting to look green again in US. Traveler, Shari3, Jill and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, Matt said: My opinion is RC cancelled primarily because they couldn't get the crew vaccinated in time, and Israel wouldn't sell them the vaccine. The crew member video a few posts above confirms this. At least the lack of vaccinations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 The Haaretz piece framing the cruise line versus vaccinating poor countries probably didn't help. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-covid-and-israel-country-wants-to-sell-vaccines-to-a-luxury-cruise-line-1.9790995 The World Is Desperate for COVID Vaccines, and Israel Wants to Sell Them to a Luxury Cruise Line cruisellama and JeffB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK2793 Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 RC now lists cruise dates out of Rome for Odyssey from May 7, 2021 all the way thru October 2021 ……… then a 13 night Transatlantic from Rome to Ft Lauderdale beginning on Oct 31, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, ChrisK2793 said: RC now lists cruise dates out of Rome for Odyssey from May 7, 2021 all the way thru October 2021 ……… then a 13 night Transatlantic from Rome to Ft Lauderdale beginning on Oct 31, 2021 Where do you see that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, ChrisK2793 said: RC now lists cruise dates out of Rome for Odyssey from May 7, 2021 all the way thru October 2021 ……… then a 13 night Transatlantic from Rome to Ft Lauderdale beginning on Oct 31, 2021 May 7, 2021 is in the past. Are you seeing 2022 dates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, twangster said: May 7, 2021 is in the past. Are you seeing 2022 dates? This is also known as "SpeedNoodles Syndrome". JLMoran, twangster, cruisellama and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisellama Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 53 minutes ago, ChrisK2793 said: RC now lists cruise dates out of Rome for Odyssey from May 7, 2021 all the way thru October 2021 ……… then a 13 night Transatlantic from Rome to Ft Lauderdale beginning on Oct 31, 2021 But its already May 16th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, cruisellama said: But its already May 16th If I book a cruise from the past, do I still get CAS points? cruisellama and JLMoran 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisK2793 Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, cruisellama said: But its already May 16th Even before this Odyssey was ALREADY supposed to cruise out of Rome for the month of May before moving to Israel in June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, ChrisK2793 said: Even before this Odyssey was ALREADY supposed to cruise out of Rome for the month of May before moving to Israel in June True... but on May 9, 2021. I was booked on the April 30, 2021, 9 night Rome sailing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjpoe Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 According to my ship tracker website she headed for Civitavecchia. maybe a fuel and food stop? or maybe going to meet up with Jewel? which is now at Cadiz and might be heading to Gilbraltar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 36 minutes ago, barjpoe said: According to my ship tracker website she headed for Civitavecchia. maybe a fuel and food stop? or maybe going to meet up with Jewel? which is now at Cadiz and might be heading to Gilbraltar. I imagine they'll try to collect any crew that has a current US visa along the way. Civitavecchia seems a bit out of the way but it must make sense in the bigger picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 49 minutes ago, twangster said: I imagine they'll try to collect any crew that has a current US visa along the way. Civitavecchia seems a bit out of the way but it must make sense in the bigger picture. And Symphony is at Cadiz too (or heading there, haven’t checked recently) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 I would guess that if they're now short-staffed on US visas they'll try to pick up as many as they can before heading into open water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 Maybe there's some Italian inspection they can get out of the way in Civitavecchia now so it's easier to arrive in 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 24 minutes ago, twangster said: Maybe there's some Italian inspection they can get out of the way in Civitavecchia now so it's easier to arrive in 2022. Better pass that inspection! twangster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzanneM Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 17 hours ago, twangster said: The Haaretz piece framing the cruise line versus vaccinating poor countries probably didn't help. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-covid-and-israel-country-wants-to-sell-vaccines-to-a-luxury-cruise-line-1.9790995 The World Is Desperate for COVID Vaccines, and Israel Wants to Sell Them to a Luxury Cruise Line When one reads HaAretz one must do so with ten buckets of grains of salt. Even better, not to read it. They're sensationalists with very little objective journalism. Obviously Israel did not want to sell vaccines to a luxury cruise line. I'll hold my breath for them to correct the claim. RC website does not have Odyssey out of Rome this year. Maybe the person who saw it was looking at a cruise website that hadn't removed the old Rome '21 schedule? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 Estimated 300 or 400 crew moved between ships per Odyssey crew. Baked Alaska and Jill 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2021/05/19/odyssey-of-the-seas-will-sail-florida-first AshleyDillo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 Choices are: Port Canaveral Fort Lauderdale Miami My money is on Fort Lauderdale (Port Everglades). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 In the Royal app you can see dates from Florida starting July 3. July 3 - 8 Nights, Aruba, Curacao, PerfectDay SpeedNoodles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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smokeybandit Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 How do you see non-booked cruises in the app? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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twangster Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: How do you see non-booked cruises in the app? Follow the link for "Get more details for ships we support" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 I don't have any such option. Are you Android or iOS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: I don't have any such option. Are you Android or iOS? Choose another date, scroll to very bottom. Right under Link a missing reservation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 Ah there it is, thanks. Buried deep in the "I hope no one notices this" section Phoenix, Cruise Pirate, SpeedNoodles and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 I don't think those are "true" itineraries as it even has May 16th's run also still listed. Can it be a backup RCG plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 It's all preliminary until it goes up on the Royal website for booking. Just odd that it was never in PEV in July of 2021 but suddenly there she is. Had the pandemic never happened she would be in Rome this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG Cruiser Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 T 27 minutes ago, twangster said: Choose another date, scroll to very bottom. Right under Link a missing reservation. This is the only sailing that is showing on my Royal App Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, PG Cruiser said: T This is the only sailing that is showing on my Royal App Is your app updated? Try logging out and back in. I've tried both Android and IOS, works for me on both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG Cruiser Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, twangster said: Is your app updated? Try logging out and back in. I've tried both Android and IOS, works for me on both. Logging out and back in worked. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG Cruiser Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 Looks like they're all "test" and "simulation" itineraries right now - copy-pasted templates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, PG Cruiser said: Looks like they're all "test" and "simulation" itineraries right now - copy-pasted templates Until it's offered for sale on the website it's all just a hint at a possible summer season, subject to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 Heck the concept of cruising in July from the US is all speculation at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG Cruiser Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, twangster said: Heck the concept of cruising in July from the US is all speculation at this point. Cruising from Florida restarts in July ... cue the tropics for the hurricanes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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