UNCFanatik Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 https://floridianpress.com/2021/04/senate-democrats-torpedoed-the-cruise-line-industry-block-cruise-act/ I didnt think the CRUISE act had a chance of passing but just shows where attitudes are with cruise resuming in summer in July Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 I mean it was dead in last years senate as well and it was republican controlled then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2021/04/22/senate-blocks-passage-of-new-bill-allow-cruise-ships-restart-sailing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNCFanatik Posted April 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, DanielB said: I mean it was dead in last years senate as well and it was republican controlled then. There is quite a difference in 2020 and 2021 when it comes to the data we have now and of course the vaccines Jill, stevendom57 and SteveinSC 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGTLH Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 Full quote of the objection SEN. MURRAY: Madam President, reserving the right to object. I understand the position of my colleagues from Alaska and Florida who want to see a return to cruising by July 4. I'm there with them. The cruise industry in my home state supports over 5,500 jobs and creates $900 million in annual local business revenue. Those jobs and that impact on the local economy have been severely disrupted. But we have to ensure the safety of our friends and our families on these cruises before they disembark. We have seen firsthand how devastating COVID outbreaks on cruise ships can be. Just last year, we saw thousands of passengers stranded on cruise ships, people put in quarantine, or refused entry to ports as borders closed. Over 31 million Americans have contracted COVID and 560,000 have died from this disease. Cruise ships require specific focus and protocols in place to prevent future outbreaks. While I am as eager as anyone else to see a return to travel, we cannot cut corners. Doing so risks lives and will only further delay returning to normal, hurting our economy more in the long run. We must trust the science and we must allow the CDC to continue its work to help us return to what we love as safely as possible. So I will continue to work with CDC and the administration as they develop the next phase of their cruising guidance, but for now, I object. Neesa, jticarruthers and ctigerk 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 Ugh..using the same narrative as back in 2020 as if things haven't changed with respect to what we know and understand about the virus. If they equally applied this across all industries nothing would have reopened. nhilding10, Jax and BarbieBell 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNCFanatik Posted April 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 55 minutes ago, CGTLH said: Full quote of the objection SEN. MURRAY: Madam President, reserving the right to object. I understand the position of my colleagues from Alaska and Florida who want to see a return to cruising by July 4. I'm there with them. The cruise industry in my home state supports over 5,500 jobs and creates $900 million in annual local business revenue. Those jobs and that impact on the local economy have been severely disrupted. But we have to ensure the safety of our friends and our families on these cruises before they disembark. We have seen firsthand how devastating COVID outbreaks on cruise ships can be. Just last year, we saw thousands of passengers stranded on cruise ships, people put in quarantine, or refused entry to ports as borders closed. Over 31 million Americans have contracted COVID and 560,000 have died from this disease. Cruise ships require specific focus and protocols in place to prevent future outbreaks. While I am as eager as anyone else to see a return to travel, we cannot cut corners. Doing so risks lives and will only further delay returning to normal, hurting our economy more in the long run. We must trust the science and we must allow the CDC to continue its work to help us return to what we love as safely as possible. So I will continue to work with CDC and the administration as they develop the next phase of their cruising guidance, but for now, I object. I'm sorry but that is an uninformed objection ignoring the data AND science from the Cruises that have taken place since the pandemic started. Using last year as an example, ignores the major game changer, namely the vaccine. Sen Murray shows he does not trust the science as of April 2021. This is about more than just people taking a cruise but more so the economic damage it continues to cause the unemployed cruise adjacent workers. danv3, Jill and jticarruthers 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep1 Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 I just read through and in a few places I see "dems have torpedoed". I do not see specifics nor a vote count. I do see that some raised objections and that nothing is settled yet? These "sky is falling" articles are a dime a dozen... Lets wait til a formal negotiation and vote. Right now despite the title the last line says a lot more. "it seems that Republicans and Democrats have not yet reached an agreement on whether or not the cruise industry should resume operation." DDaley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhilding10 Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, AshleyDillo said: Ugh..using the same narrative as back in 2020 as if things haven't changed with respect to what we know and understand about the virus. If they equally applied this across all industries nothing would have reopened. That was my thought exactly. It seems to me, and this is completely my opinion and backed by no real fact, but it seems to me that the only thing that will get this moving is after the summer sailings originating elsewhere, the US realizes how much revenue they missed out on and nothing happened on these sailings...THEN they'll drag their feet a little less slowly and want to fill their own coffers again. So frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep1 Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 Ok, Senator Murray just got an earful from me. https://www.murray.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/mobile/contactme?p=ContactMe who's next? I simply pointed out that her assessment is well behind the times and doesn't take into account the steps the lines have taken to ensure safety. I'm on the warpath and you should be too. Enough of this %^&*.... I do use firm language but always respectful when dealing with the elected. Its important for all of us , that they work for us. Not the other way around. When they do a bad job they need to be leaned on... jticarruthers, Snotarni, SteveinSC and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 "Just last year" Yep, they're not giving up on the Diamond Princess. Also, "just last year" -No vaccine -No treatments -No mass testing -No knowledge of how it spread Also, "just last year" -Not thought to spread among humans -Don't wear a mask -15 days to stop the spread! deep1, Neesa and SteveinSC 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep1 Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 I have read now two "headlines" stating this is dead. We have one senator who filed an objection but several more that advanced it. Then we have the separate bill from the house that is being worked on. This does not kill this one. It means it doesn't just sail through without some, what promises to be colorful debate... The house one will no doubt be the same way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 2 hours ago, UNCFanatik said: https://floridianpress.com/2021/04/senate-democrats-torpedoed-the-cruise-line-industry-block-cruise-act/ I didnt think the CRUISE act had a chance of passing but just shows where attitudes are with cruise resuming in summer in July Gosh you’d think the Senator from Washington State would be eager to get Seattle revenue since it’s been burning for a year Baked Alaska and deep1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep1 Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 Light up her phone lines... 202-224-2621 !!!!! Jill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisellama Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 Its all about control - UNCFanatik, Neesa and Jill 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floski Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Jill said: Gosh you’d think the Senator from Washington State would be eager to get Seattle revenue since it’s been burning for a year Senator Murray: "Seattle is burning? I thought that was cruise ship smoke." Jill and Baked Alaska 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floski Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 I just wrote and sent an e-mail to our senator, Tim Scott, asking him for his vocal support for the cruise industry. Getting ready to send one to Lindsey Graham. This crap has gotten way out of hand, and I'm sick of it. These politicians like Murray, are absolutely ignorant to this subject. It's obvious when they continue to refer to the Diamond Princess and data that is a year old. Sensationalist media again raises it's ugly head. Baked Alaska, SteveinSC and BarbieBell 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWaits Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 15 hours ago, CGTLH said: Full quote of the objection SEN. MURRAY: We have seen firsthand how devastating COVID outbreaks in nursing homes can be. Fixed it for you, Senator. AshleyDillo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jticarruthers Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 15 hours ago, CGTLH said: Full quote of the objection SEN. MURRAY: Madam President, reserving the right to object. I understand the position of my colleagues from Alaska and Florida who want to see a return to cruising by July 4. I'm there with them. The cruise industry in my home state supports over 5,500 jobs and creates $900 million in annual local business revenue. Those jobs and that impact on the local economy have been severely disrupted. But we have to ensure the safety of our friends and our families on these cruises before they disembark. We have seen firsthand how devastating COVID outbreaks on cruise ships can be. Just last year, we saw thousands of passengers stranded on cruise ships, people put in quarantine, or refused entry to ports as borders closed. Over 31 million Americans have contracted COVID and 560,000 have died from this disease. Cruise ships require specific focus and protocols in place to prevent future outbreaks. While I am as eager as anyone else to see a return to travel, we cannot cut corners. Doing so risks lives and will only further delay returning to normal, hurting our economy more in the long run. We must trust the science and we must allow the CDC to continue its work to help us return to what we love as safely as possible. So I will continue to work with CDC and the administration as they develop the next phase of their cruising guidance, but for now, I object. #@$$%$%^^#$ Edited to avoid Matt having to remind me not to make bad comments ... sorry Matt. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveinSC Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 11 hours ago, Floski said: I just wrote and sent an e-mail to our senator, Tim Scott, asking him for his vocal support for the cruise industry. Getting ready to send one to Lindsey Graham. This crap has gotten way out of hand, and I'm sick of it. These politicians like Murray, are absolutely ignorant to this subject. It's obvious when they continue to refer to the Diamond Princess and data that is a year old. Sensationalist media again raises it's ugly head. I also wrote Scott and Graham.....and Ralph Norman (our representative). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbieBell Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 I think if cruising starts successfully from ports outside the US and folks stop begging a “stubborn child” (CDC) things might improve. Politicians love to hear themselves talk and to argue points right into the ground regardless of the subject. It’s clear that very few in power give a crap about the cruise industry or the many people affected by their actions. It’s not just an industry of cruising customers but much much more. I’m not sure the US is ready to loose the cruise industry completely so let’s show them we can cruise elsewhere and rock on. Their position and refusals is an attempt to show us who is in power here and control us like dumb sheep. Sad part is by the time they decide, if ever, that cruising can restart in the US - that ship may have already sailed️? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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