StayFrosty Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 It looks like Southwest is coming to MIA. That should mean cheaper flight directly to Miami instead of the detour via Fort Lauderdale. Link to article cruisellama, twangster, DDaley and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 Ooohhh.... Game changer. Me likey. Makes up (a little bit) for leaving EWR. cruisellama, JohnK6404 and Neesa 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPPJJ-GCVAB Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 Oh my GOSH!!! This is exciting news to hear!! I wonder if Air2Sea will ever start to include SWA in their pricing and bookings! They do not right now and even though SWA flies into Ft Lauderdale (which is where we chose to fly into in April, even though our cruise is from Miami)...I chose to book our flights on American just so I could use Air2Sea. I know SWA is sort of "their own entity" and are not included with Orbitz, Travelocity, etc so I'm thinking probably will not be added to Air2Sea options. At any rate, if SWA begins flying to Miami from RI then I will be very interested in checking out flights and fares!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Alaska Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 I am just loving this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 8 hours ago, PPPJJ-GCVAB said: Oh my GOSH!!! This is exciting news to hear!! I wonder if Air2Sea will ever start to include SWA in their pricing and bookings! They do not right now and even though SWA flies into Ft Lauderdale (which is where we chose to fly into in April, even though our cruise is from Miami)...I chose to book our flights on American just so I could use Air2Sea. I know SWA is sort of "their own entity" and are not included with Orbitz, Travelocity, etc so I'm thinking probably will not be added to Air2Sea options. At any rate, if SWA begins flying to Miami from RI then I will be very interested in checking out flights and fares!! SWA is a great and friendly airline for the flying public but that's not always the case for travel companies. Some travel companies have been bitten by fees so hard they avoid selling SWA. I'm guessing that's a part of why Air2Sea won't offer SWA. PPPJJ-GCVAB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimnKathy Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 This is amazing news...we've been flying Southwest for years and love their reasonable fares and outstanding customer service. PPPJJ-GCVAB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFFrank Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Lest we forget, perhaps the best reason for using Southwest, especially for cruisers, is 2 free checked bags in addition to a carryon. Rose City Cruiser, DandA and JimnKathy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 3 hours ago, USFFrank said: Lest we forget, perhaps the best reason for using Southwest, especially for cruisers, is 2 free checked bags in addition to a carryon. I get free bags with Delta so my biggest reason for using SWA is the change policy involving fees. SWA allows you to change flights without a fee although fare differences will apply. Not ideal but a whole lot better than "I won't even speak to you about changing flights before charging you a $150 change fee" that most legacy carriers charge. I change cruises all the time. I might see a last minute deal for the cruise before or the next cruise after then I make it a B2B. Being able to change flights without a fee for nothing is huge. Delta has lost thousands of dollars of my business because of their $150 change fee. This from a million miler on Delta. In my case, the $150 change fee has cost them a lot more money compared to what it has made for them. Now I'm hooked on their competitor because of it and often don't even check their fares before booking SWA. WAAAYTOOO, CruiseGus and PPPJJ-GCVAB 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 I'm kind of jealous of those of you who can fly SouthWest (it flies from Mpls, but it goes almost nowhere). The other thing that always concerns me is seating. I HAVE to sit next to my husband because he's a nervous flyer. I'm very uncomfortable not being able to choose our seats. PPPJJ-GCVAB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, SpeedNoodles said: I'm kind of jealous of those of you who can fly SouthWest (it flies from Mpls, but it goes almost nowhere). The other thing that always concerns me is seating. I HAVE to sit next to my husband because he's a nervous flyer. I'm very uncomfortable not being able to choose our seats. I see some direct nonstop from MSP to FLL in January as an example. $120 one way, $240 round trip. The non-stops on Delta start at twice that. Suncountry is $40 cheaper but charges for bags. Add EBCI (early bird check in) and you'll sit with hubby every time. With no bag fees you'll likely still be ahead. Before starting to fly SWA the lack of seat reservations was a thing for me but once I started flying them it turned out to be not the thing I feared. SpeedNoodles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 I don't hate SWA, but I don't love them either. Yes, their no bags fees and no penalties for cancellation are great. But their seating system (first come, first seated) is extremely lame. No in-seat entertainment also bugs me. I also don't believe the presence of Southwest in an airport brings prices down. When Southwest came to Atlanta, everyone thought Delta's strangehold on that airport was done, but that was not the case. WAAAYTOOO and Neesa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 39 minutes ago, Matt said: No in-seat entertainment also bugs me. I've always thought this was a smart business play. In seat TV's on airplanes cost significantly up front and add to the weight of the aircraft. Planes fly millions of miles over their lifetime and every extra pound carried costs money. On the surface this doesn't seem like a thing but over millions of miles it adds up. Meanwhile people bring smart devices with them. This is weight that is going to be carried no matter what is said or done. SWA provides access to content stored on the plane VIA WiFi that can be watched on your smart device. You can also watch live TV channels and they offer free messaging to the ground. This is all free. When I fly on a plane with in seat entertainment and the person behind me is nailing the screen to play pacman it drives me crazy, like a kid kicking my seat all flight long. For international flights it's one thing since they have in seat remote buttons to play games, but for shorter domestic flights I'm totally good saving money and using my own device that I have with me anyways. Plus the Southwest effect is real! Just look at Hawaii. Seriously, I know Delta tracks SWA prices and adjusts flights prices based on them. I've seen it time and again. But I get it, coming from Mr. "Miami is too far. I can only cruise from Tampa or Canaveral". WAAAYTOOO, SpeedNoodles and Baked Alaska 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Great to hear this...hopefully another option when we fly from Portland......as soon as the US/Canada border opens!! Rene Desmarais and IRMO12HD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 The only downside of MIA vs. FLL is that FLL is an easy airport. Some my longest airport walks have occurred at MIA. The hike to the car rental center is basically an expedition that should come with bottles of water, a box meal and a guide. IRMO12HD, Ogilthorpe, SpeedNoodles and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 I found Miami to be fine if flying in on Delta. Flying in and out on SunCountry was nothing short of awful. Their gate was at the most remote, least maintained part of the terminal. There was no TSA precheck at security for that part of the terminal. There was almost no seating at the gate (most of us were sitting on the floor or standing around). We swore never again to Miami (although in reality it's never again on SunCountry because they get shitty gates). Baked Alaska, WAAAYTOOO and twangster 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJones Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 6 hours ago, twangster said: Add EBCI (early bird check in) and you'll sit with hubby every time. And only one of you needs to purchase EBCI - you'll board separately, but one of you can save the other a seat. Baked Alaska 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 20 hours ago, twangster said: But I get it, coming from Mr. "Miami is too far. I can only cruise from Tampa or Canaveral". JimnKathy, teddy, Baked Alaska and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 On 9/8/2020 at 11:07 AM, Matt said: I don't hate SWA, but I don't love them either. Yes, their no bags fees and no penalties for cancellation are great. But their seating system (first come, first seated) is extremely lame. No in-seat entertainment also bugs me. I also don't believe the presence of Southwest in an airport brings prices down. When Southwest came to Atlanta, everyone thought Delta's strangehold on that airport was done, but that was not the case. I agree completely with Matt. Not a big Southwest fan. I hate their seating system. But @Matt most airlines will be getting rid of in seat entertainment on domestic flights. Everyone has a phone or tablet today so they can just stream the entertainment to the devices. It makes the planes a little lighter, so Airlines can save a little on fuel, and it saves them money on software updates and repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, crisgold52 said: Of course this can be avoided since Star Class often is on the same price range as THE RESIDENCE on Etihad or their similarly branded FIRST APARTMENT. Puts US CARRIERS to shame. I have NO idea what Star Class has to do with Southwest Airlines. Lovetocruise2002, USFFrank and WAAAYTOOO 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 53 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said: I have NO idea what Star Class has to do with Southwest Airlines. That makes two of us! This thread is about Southwest offering service to Miami. Not sure what other carriers have to do with this topic. USFFrank 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Alaska Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 I've never thought about taking Japan Airlines, Korea Air, Singapore Airlines, EVA from STL (Saint Louis) to MIA (Miami). Maybe trolls do?! Lovetocruise2002 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Baked Alaska said: I've never thought about taking Japan Airlines, Korea Air, Singapore Airlines, EVA from STL (Saint Louis) to MIA (Miami). Maybe trolls do?! No such thing. That's what the PVSA is all about !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, SpeedNoodles said: I have NO idea what Star Class has to do with Southwest Airlines. SWA isn't even a member of the airline Star Alliance. Baked Alaska and SpeedNoodles 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, crisgold52 said: This is only stateside. Asian carriers are known to be the best and offer superior service such as Japan Airlines, Korea Air, Singapore Airlines, EVA all have a superior product compared to American carriers who are often in financial trouble. And all Asian legacy carriers have personal televisions in all classes and superior meal service on short haul. Also their FA'S are pleasant young adults. US carriers should learn from their Asian counterparts on how to run good profitable operations. You are in right on the point that I probably should have clarified that Domestic Airlines is what I meant when I said most airlines are removing in flight screens. I don’t know what the asian market is doing . Baked Alaska 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Alaska Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, WAAAYTOOO said: No such thing. That's what the PVSA is all about !!! Okay, I give. I found PVSA - Presidential Volunteer Service Award and one other that I won't mention. . . unless THAT'S the one your talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Alaska Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, WAAAYTOOO said: No such thing. That's what the PVSA is all about !!! Oh CRUD! Now I found it: Passenger Vessel Services Act. I'll keep quiet on the other PVSA. SpeedNoodles and WAAAYTOOO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLH Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 9/8/2020 at 12:55 AM, twangster said: I get free bags with Delta so my biggest reason for using SWA is the change policy involving fees. SWA allows you to change flights without a fee although fare differences will apply. Not ideal but a whole lot better than "I won't even speak to you about changing flights before charging you a $150 change fee" that most legacy carriers charge. I change cruises all the time. I might see a last minute deal for the cruise before or the next cruise after then I make it a B2B. Being able to change flights without a fee for nothing is huge. Delta has lost thousands of dollars of my business because of their $150 change fee. This from a million miler on Delta. In my case, the $150 change fee has cost them a lot more money compared to what it has made for them. Now I'm hooked on their competitor because of it and often don't even check their fares before booking SWA. Check out the new Delta policy. Not as great as Southwest but change fees are now gone. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-supporters-california-clinton-fake-news-vote-2020-a9214131.html?fbclid=IwAR0E9Ceeoveu90HuVxkSq3apzHmDKileHF-CHkHyc9llpiF2yeEGKO6egPk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, MLH said: Check out the new Delta policy. Not as great as Southwest but change fees are now gone. Initially they only lifted change fees through September but later adjusted it... for US flights only. International still has change fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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