Sean12 Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 Any news about the Odyssey of the Seas? We are booked for the Christmas Cruise on the 26 Dec 2020. Long way from London if she is not ready? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 Last update I saw on the shipbuilder’s Facebook was they were making the anchor chains. sk8erguy1978, WAAAYTOOO, Neesa and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew72681 Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 The last picture from Meyer Weft was on 5/18. They have a webpage where you can see ships under construction. https://www.meyerwerft.de/en/company/webcam/index.jsp rjac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew72681 Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 I’d be concerned with anything on Odyssey this year. Many on the inaugural are Making backup plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 11 hours ago, Andrew72681 said: I’d be concerned with anything on Odyssey this year. Many on the inaugural are Making backup plans. My backup plan will just be to go to work. *sigh* sk8erguy1978, teddy, Ron Rico and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew72681 Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, SpeedNoodles said: My backup plan will just be to go to work. *sigh* That’s a terrible backup plan. A good backup plan would be refundable tickets to somewhere like Tahiti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Andrew72681 said: That’s a terrible backup plan. A good backup plan would be refundable tickets to somewhere like Tahiti. Yeah, I pretty much suck at vacation planning. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike P Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 11 hours ago, Andrew72681 said: I’d be concerned with anything on Odyssey this year. Many on the inaugural are Making backup plans. I booked Oasis for November 4th as my plan B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew72681 Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mike P said: I booked Oasis for November 4th as my plan B. Hopefully I’ll get to wave as you walk by. Starting to get concerned about the even the prospects of November cruises. Mike P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew72681 Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 26 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said: Yeah, I pretty much suck at vacation planning. Not being able to book and plan any work travel, all I can do it plan vacations. Now I’ve gotta get working on getting my parent company to grant an exemption for this year, normally we can only roll over one week of vacation, but without being able to use it everyone will have too much. SpeedNoodles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Andrew72681 said: Not being able to book and plan any work travel, all I can do it plan vacations. Now I’ve gotta get working on getting my parent company to grant an exemption for this year, normally we can only roll over one week of vacation, but without being able to use it everyone will have too much. I get that. I can carry about 580 hours of PTO, so I'm not forced to take any or lose it at this point. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew72681 Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, SpeedNoodles said: I get that. I can carry about 580 hours of PTO, so I'm not forced to take any or lose it at this point. Wow, that’s a huge upper limit, even my wife who works with a government contract maxes out at eight weeks. I think after the last week few weeks up that way your entire department is going to need a long vacation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Andrew72681 said: Wow, that’s a huge upper limit, even my wife who works with a government contract maxes out at eight weeks. I think after the last week few weeks up that way your entire department is going to need a long vacation. Haha, no rest for the wicked. We may be on the Coronas schedule until the end of the year! WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 They must know by now at least at a minimum how many weeks behind its going to be. It would be nice to start letting ppl know.... Neesa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 On 6/3/2020 at 9:28 AM, SpeedNoodles said: My backup plan will just be to go to work. *sigh* How close to MSP are you ? I hear they’re going to dismantle the police force. What could go wrong with that plan ? Neesa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 4 hours ago, WAAAYTOOO said: How close to MSP are you ? I hear they’re going to dismantle the police force. What could go wrong with that plan ? I'm about 30 miles south of Minneapolis. I'm not a fan of that dept, but that's all I'll say here accio7, ehw51 and WAAAYTOOO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCG Teacher Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said: I'm about 30 miles south of Minneapolis. I'm not a fan of that dept, but that's all I'll say here Enjoying those cookies again I see. Seems prudent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, USCG Teacher said: Enjoying those cookies again I see. Seems prudent. Did someone say cookies? (there are cookies?) USCG Teacher and accio7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjac Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 Man oh man.....about a topic getting hijacked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK6404 Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 Ogilthorpe, WAAAYTOOO, mworkman and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim S Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 We are booked on Odyssey for the Transatlantic Ft Lauderdale to Rome cruise in April 2021. Hopefully by that time things will be getting back to normal, well the “new normal” anyway, whatever that might be. Neesa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew72681 Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 @Matt posted new photos of Odyssey this morning. I wonder how far we are from the Ems float out. https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2020/06/08/odyssey-of-the-seas-construction-photo-update-june-8-2020 JohnK6404 and rjac 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK6404 Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 Love the updates... thanks! 614 days to go! Neesa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23064-odyssey-of-the-seas-progressing-at-meyer-werft.html JohnK6404 and Neesa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 Somebody somewhere, please give an update.....we all know you know at this point schedule wise what's going on.... SpeedNoodles and Neesa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew72681 Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, monctonguy said: Somebody somewhere, please give an update.....we all know you know at this point schedule wise what's going on.... I would guess they know that the inaugural won’t happen. But if they just cancel one sailing, people will rush to book the one after it, and so on and so on. So waiting means they can cancel as many as they need to all at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Andrew72681 said: I would guess they know that the inaugural won’t happen. But if they just cancel one sailing, people will rush to book the one after it, and so on and so on. So waiting means they can cancel as many as they need to all at once. I just hope they cancel before final payment date. Neesa and Mike P 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Well well well.....according to this, she’s on schedule for November? https://cruisearabiaonline.com/2020/06/09/meyer-werft-previews-royal-caribbeans-new-odyssey-of-the-seas-under-construction/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jill said: Well well well.....according to this, she’s on schedule for November? https://cruisearabiaonline.com/2020/06/09/meyer-werft-previews-royal-caribbeans-new-odyssey-of-the-seas-under-construction/ "While other cruise ships due for delivery this year have seen delays due to the pandemic, Odyssey of the Seas’ debut has not yet been affected." That simply means they have announced the delay. So if you can build a ship on the same schedule with 1/3 of the labor why don't they do that all the time and reduce the cost of the ship? Jill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, twangster said: "While other cruise ships due for delivery this year have seen delays due to the pandemic, Odyssey of the Seas’ debut has not yet been affected." That simply means they have announced the delay. So if you can build a ship on the same schedule with 1/3 of the labor why don't they do that all the time and reduce the cost of the ship? As always the voice of reason. I’m not on her until October 2021. I feel good about my date. I hope a miracle happens for you @twangster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew72681 Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, twangster said: "While other cruise ships due for delivery this year have seen delays due to the pandemic, Odyssey of the Seas’ debut has not yet been affected." That simply means they have announced the delay. So if you can build a ship on the same schedule with 1/3 of the labor why don't they do that all the time and reduce the cost of the ship? It’s like when analysts claim that Apple’s latest product is delayed, when it’s never been announced so technically can’t possibly be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 13 hours ago, Jill said: Well well well.....according to this, she’s on schedule for November? https://cruisearabiaonline.com/2020/06/09/meyer-werft-previews-royal-caribbeans-new-odyssey-of-the-seas-under-construction/ Well this still gives me some hope...I would find it strange that a shipyard building massive ships wroth 100"s of millions......would be able to lie/hide the fact they are behind and wont meet the deadline. I know in my business..I cant do that without repercussions…..perhaps the shipyard is above that but for now I will take a glimmer of hope she might be ready. Now, will I be able to get there is the bigger question at this point perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 During the Royal investor's call a few weeks ago the company clearly stated they expect 2020 and 2021 new builds to be delayed. I'm pretty confident that any announcements that Meyer Werft makes are made after checking with their customers - the cruise lines. Meyer Werft won't make a major announcement declaring a delay that will cause massive disruption and grief for their customer, the cruise line. If Meyer Werft were to boldly state the actual date any given ship is estimated to now complete it would send guests scrambling to make changes while the cruise line wouldn't be ready for the onslaught and media reaction never mind investor speculation. Royal's in a tough spot. If they announce an official delay or new estimated date for completion they instantly have to deal with thousands of impacted reservations and that means refunds for many. Meanwhile if the virus goes away this summer and they can triple the work effort they could conceivably finish on time. I know that isn't likely to happen but Royal is ever the optimist. We've often seen during hurricanes that Royal waits until the last possible moment often announcing changes much later than guests would like. I don't expect this to be much different. The writing is on the wall, everyone acknowledges that something must change but Royal won't make any official announcements until well past what guests who are involved would like to see. Waiting until after final payment due date means the injection of millions of dollars into the company. What do you think they'll do? SpeedNoodles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew72681 Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, twangster said: I pretty confident that any announcements that Meyer Werft makes are made after checking with their customers - the cruise lines. Meyer Werft won't make a major announcement declaring a delay that will cause massive disruption and grief for their customer, the cruise line. If Meyer Werft were to boldly state the actual date any given ship is estimated to now complete it would send guests scrambling to make changes while the cruise line wouldn't be ready for the onslaught and media reaction never mind investor speculation. There is one situation where they could not be the case. Often times when issuing guidance for a future quarter a company will reference something happening later than expected that would cause a material decrease in expected revenue in that following quarter. So for a ship that would probably be transferred late Q3/ early Q4 if it were going to cause an adverse change to the balance sheet we might hear of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 Its sad if that's what it comes to and that's how they roll it out... At this point, we will walk away from our deposit rather than pay the full balance and hope/pray/worry that all the other pieces fall in place. And then if they dont, the headache of rebooking hotels and flights etc.....just not worth the hassle...as much as it will suck to miss what was going to be probably our best and most exciting cruise yet for various reasons... SpeedNoodles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 43 minutes ago, Andrew72681 said: There is one situation where they could not be the case. Often times when issuing guidance for a future quarter a company will reference something happening later than expected that would cause a material decrease in expected revenue in that following quarter. So for a ship that would probably be transferred late Q3/ early Q4 if it were going to cause an adverse change to the balance sheet we might hear of it. Meyer Werft is a private company that doesn't have to issue public guidance. Royal did cover it for their investors all but saying it is delayed, instead they stated they expect it to be delayed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew72681 Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, twangster said: Meyer Werft is a private company that doesn't have to issue public guidance. Royal did cover it for their investors all but saying it is delayed, instead they stated they expect it to be delayed. Wasn’t even thinking about them being a private company. There’s so few left. So maybe we just need a mole in the board meetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 5 hours ago, monctonguy said: Well this still gives me some hope...I would find it strange that a shipyard building massive ships wroth 100"s of millions......would be able to lie/hide the fact they are behind and wont meet the deadline. It may be written in their shipbuilder contracts that if they can't meet deadlines there are monetarily penalized, i.e. Royal gets a break on the costs. The shipbuilder may in fact be on time but it will be all the finishing touches that could cause the delay. Similarly to Allure's AMPlification, some of the interior furnishings and extras could be sitting and waiting for the ship to be floated out so they can begin that step of the process. If those contractors are impacted by COVID-19 it could take longer to completely finish the ship even after it has left Meyer Werft. We don't know how much leeway they left between the anticipated delivery date and the inaugural sailing. I remember from the Oasis AMP that they had contractors still working on the finishing touches as it was sailing back to the US. Royal may be planning to push back the first sailing because they anticipate those last minute preparations may not be completed and that's why they are alluding to the delays already. We won't know for sure until they tell us, so all we can do is speculate. There's about 50ish days until final payment for the inaugural and that's about the same time that the deadline to CWC for a full FCC for the nonrefundable deposits, so we shall see what plays out between now and then. monctonguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew72681 Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 56 minutes ago, AshleyDillo said: Royal may be planning to push back the first sailing because they anticipate those last minute preparations may not be completed and that's why they are alluding to the delays already. We won't know for sure until they tell us, so all we can do is speculate. Or they may not be ready to click the transfer button and deposit almost a billion dollars so they've already told MW not to rush and that they wouldn't enforce any penalties for late delivery (which would probably already have been nullified in the contract by a force majeure clause) WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted June 13, 2020 Report Share Posted June 13, 2020 Look what’s headed to Meyer.....saw this in a Facebook group. ehw51, rjac and CruzOnBye 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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