Phillip Diamond Plus Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 I guess that I will make final payment including air for the Empress this coming Tuesday.?? The ship leaves from Liberty visiting new England places and then 4 Canadian ports before it arrives in Montreal. Does anyone have any information about reopening of the eastern Canadian ports? (Of course, Royal Caribbean may even cancel the Empress cruise???) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mworkman Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 I would like to remain optimistic, but the Canadian government, along with their medical oversight. I don’t see it happening, along with our 10 day sailing in September. It will be interesting to see if ships are moved back to ports in the NE for sailing. It doesn’t seem like there welcomed in that region and looked down upon. It seems they forget that there are cargo ships that port there and disembark there peeps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadster Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 I don't have an answer (though, like above, I'm not overly optimistic), but I really hope you get to take it. This itinerary is on my to-do list for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampurp85 Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 First I would say what does your gut tell you? Based on your perceptions of the current climate and outlook, will you be cruising? As for me, honestly less than 41%......all the information that the CEO gave goes against any definite date of sailing in August and small ships being used. If you don't mind parting with your money and holding out, only for it to be cancelled or switched in itinerary and ship...they make final payments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRT Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 We were suppose to be sailing the 11 night cruise on Empress in September. We did the Lift and Shift to September 2021 just to be safe. Hopeing the Empress is still around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Diamond Plus Posted May 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 Thank you for your replies/suggestions! We have decided to cancel. .By cancelling now, our United nonrefundable flight tickets do not have any cancellation fees. United has no fees ( for any flights cancelled by May 31st). Also our $100 per person nonrefundable cruise deposits will be given back for a future cruise credit (We booked on board for the lower $200 deposit rate.) I thought this information may help others decide what to do. But if the Empress sailing on Aug. 24th is really going to happen, we will book again!!! What a wonderful itinerary it has!!! sk8erguy1978, Chadster, YOLO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandmaAirplane Posted May 25, 2020 Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 16 hours ago, Phillip Diamond Plus said: We have decided to cancel. Smart move. Canada, and especially Québec, will not be opening for cruise ships this season at all. Montreal is still a sensitive hotspot for the virus There is no way that health authorities there will trust cruise passengers to respect social distancing measures, which will be in force for the months to come. Quebec wants to keep their schools and businesses reopened in September... and they have enough issues with the fragility of their current re-opening plan. The Maritime provinces are also being ultra careful in allowing visitors for the summer. If the late Summer & Fall Eastern seaboard cruises go ahead, they’ll have to do so with altered itineraries, having to skip Canadian ports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadster Posted May 25, 2020 Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 3 hours ago, GrandmaAirplane said: Smart move. Canada, and especially Québec, will not be opening for cruise ships this season at all. Montreal is still a sensitive hotspot for the virus There is no way that health authorities there will trust cruise passengers to respect social distancing measures, which will be in force for the months to come. Quebec wants to keep their schools and businesses reopened in September... and they have enough issues with the fragility of their current re-opening plan. The Maritime provinces are also being ultra careful in allowing visitors for the summer. If the late Summer & Fall Eastern seaboard cruises go ahead, they’ll have to do so with altered itineraries, having to skip Canadian ports. Thank you for the perspective from that side of the border. This, of course, isn't something I want to hear -- but it's certainly something I'm preparing myself for. I've decided that if our 10/11 cruise from Boston aboard Brilliance goes ahead, I'll be on it, even with altered ports. I made that choice for my June sailing which was ultimately cancelled, and I'll do it again if need-be. I'm really looking forward to getting to visit the Canadian ports one day, even if it takes me til next year to do so; I really want to spend time in Halifax when I'm able. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandmaAirplane Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 I also forgot to mention that the 14-day quarantine rule on arrival in Canada is likely to remain throughout the summer too. YOLO and Chadster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 Ain't happening....look, I live here and I cant even visit the places the cruise ship would be stopping at...….if I am locked down as a resident, they aren't letting tourists in. We have ZERO cases in the province next to us and ONE case here....ZERO deaths in either province, and I cant take a drive or visit family there and if I try I will be charged or arrested...….. I am doubting the ability to even do my cruise in Nov based on what I am seeing and hearing from officials in Canada...its insane....until someone files a lawsuit that our rights are being violated, this is the new norm for Canadians..... I would give anything to be an American right now..more so then ever before..... GrandmaAirplane, SpeedNoodles, WAAAYTOOO and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLMoran Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, monctonguy said: I would give anything to be an American right now..more so then ever before.... Umm, you have zero deaths while we’re fast approaching 100,000. You sure about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, JLMoran said: Umm, you have zero deaths while we’re fast approaching 100,000. You sure about that? Just in my province and the one next to us...…..Canada wide I am guessing we aren't far behind US numbers when you factor in the population difference. And if you take NY out of the equation(thanks Gov Cumo) you guys would prob be doing much better than us...and you havent lost many of the freedoms we have here.... GrandmaAirplane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLMoran Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 hour ago, monctonguy said: Just in my province and the one next to us...…..Canada wide I am guessing we aren't far behind US numbers when you factor in the population difference. And if you take NY out of the equation(thanks Gov Cumo) you guys would prob be doing much better than us...and you havent lost many of the freedoms we have here.... Canada as a whole isn’t anywhere close to the US in total confirmed deaths. My friend posted this just yesterday on FB, after looking up the official stats. As always, emphasis added. Quote It just occurred to me: How’s the rest of our continent handling the coronavirus outbreak? Why haven’t we been hearing about Canada and Mexico? It is all one land mass, after all. I checked the official Canadian pandemic update page, and I initially thought: Wow, 84,000 — they’re doing almost as badly as the United States. And then I noticed: That’s not deaths. It’s *total cases*. Current statistics for Canada: Confirmed cases: 84,688Deaths: 6,424 So I also looked up our neighbor to the south. Current statistics for Mexico: Confirmed cases: 68,620 Deaths: 7,394 For comparison… Current statistics for New Jersey: Confirmed cases: 154,154Deaths: 11,133 Current statistics for the United States: Confirmed cases: 1,622,114Deaths: 97,049 These are raw numbers, and these are political units with very different populations, so let’s express them as a fraction of total population (Mexico = 129M, Canada = 38M, US = 331M, NJ = 9M): Confirmed cases: 1 in 1,880 Mexicans have tested positive 1 in 449 Canadians have tested positive 1 in 204 Americans have tested positive 1 in 58 New Jerseyans have tested positive Deaths: 1 in 17,447 Mexicans have died1 in 5,915 Canadians have died 1 in 3,411 Americans have died 1 in 808 New Jerseyans have died I suppose that’s why we haven’t been hearing about Canada and Mexico. As some guy said, the numbers look bad. — Canada’s official data: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection.html Mexico’s official data: https://coronavirus.gob.mx/datos/ U.S. official data: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html New Jersey’s official data: https://covid19.nj.gov/#live-updates So yes, in terms of percentages Canada is closer to the US, but it’s still almost half the rate of the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 I believe we have about 7 thousands deaths...we have about 1/10th the population of the US...rough math would put our deaths at about 70,000 if population was equal...not that far off...just remove NY and we would be probably ahead. Keep in mind also...that we have been way more restricted for longer and more severe than the US....been over 2 mths of lock down for us now...and no end in sight for probably 2 more months...its insane....and never mind the case #'s....think about the severe economic, menta, l and domestic relationship damage this has done and will do for years to come..... But yeah, safe to assume NO cruises in or out of Canada in 2020...... JLMoran, twangster and WAAAYTOOO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 4 hours ago, monctonguy said: But yeah, safe to assume NO cruises in or out of Canada in 2020...... It'd be great if the Canadian gov't would just announce this so we can all get on with our lives (ha, ok, that sounds selfish. It just seems like it would be an easy thing to decide and announce if that's what they want to do). monctonguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mworkman Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said: It'd be great if the Canadian gov't would just announce this so we can all get on with our lives (ha, ok, that sounds selfish. It just seems like it would be an easy thing to decide and announce if that's what they want to do). They won’t do that because it would cause more problems for the trying to fend off the masses. It’s easier to play kick the can down the road as it approaches, so its closer to the dates in question. GrandmaAirplane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said: It'd be great if the Canadian gov't would just announce this so we can all get on with our lives (ha, ok, that sounds selfish. It just seems like it would be an easy thing to decide and announce if that's what they want to do). Yeah..they just keep extending the international border closure for 30 days at a time....till June 21st for now....but even if/when that opens, I am pretty sure there will be the 14 day self -quarantine rule put in place....in the meantime, we cant leave our province so even if the border is legally open....it wont be easy or fun to travel. Sucks when travel is your hobby and passion! Chadster, WAAAYTOOO and SpeedNoodles 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, SpeedNoodles said: It'd be great if the Canadian gov't would just announce this so we can all get on with our lives (ha, ok, that sounds selfish. It just seems like it would be an easy thing to decide and announce if that's what they want to do). And kinda how I feel about my Odyssey cruise!!...If you know it wont happen, hurry up and let me know so I can make other plans!!!! mworkman and SpeedNoodles 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 Just now, monctonguy said: And kinda how I feel about my Odyssey cruise!!...If you know it wont happen, hurry up and let me know so I can make other plans!!!! Yeah, I'm booked on that, too. Brilliance GC in October and B2B Odyssey inaugural in November. I know none of it is happening. I won't make other plans anyway, but there's just no point pretending. monctonguy, Chadster, WAAAYTOOO and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 hour ago, SpeedNoodles said: Yeah, I'm booked on that, too. Brilliance GC in October and B2B Odyssey inaugural in November. I know none of it is happening. I won't make other plans anyway, but there's just no point pretending. You are a killjoy! lol Sadly, I think you might be right... Chadster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 11 hours ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: You are a killjoy! lol Sadly, I think you might be right... I like to think I'm just realistic, but apparently others see it another way, lol. I promise I'm fun in person, though! lol mworkman, Lovetocruise2002 and jaredhamburg 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 I don’t know if Victory has an inside line but they are canceling the rest of the year. They sail into the Canadian Maritimes and New England, among other itineraries https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23005-victory-cruise-lines-suspends-2020-cruise-season-looks-to-2021.html whitsmom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Hmmmmm. Not looking good for our GC. I wonder if they will change the itin or just scrap it altogether. I'm guessing they will just cancel the cruise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkelBierJay Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: Hmmmmm. Not looking good for our GC. I wonder if they will change the itin or just scrap it altogether. I'm guessing they will just cancel the cruise. I'd be for Bermuda and Bahamas just to get on a ship...plus my wife hasn't seen Boston before. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 5/26/2020 at 12:11 PM, monctonguy said: But yeah, safe to assume NO cruises in or out of Canada in 2020...... Guess I knew what I was talking about...... JLMoran 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted June 2, 2020 Report Share Posted June 2, 2020 Official word: All cancelled. https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2020/06/02/royal-caribbean-cancels-2020-alaska-canadanew-england-and-hawaii-cruises Matt and Chadster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew72681 Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 7 hours ago, SpeedNoodles said: Official word: All cancelled. https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2020/06/02/royal-caribbean-cancels-2020-alaska-canadanew-england-and-hawaii-cruises I wonder if there’s still people out there wondering why they just didn’t do US ports, like the US after villianizing the industry for months was going to suddenly give and suspend the PVSA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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