basil Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 We in Michigan are on a stay in place for the next 3 weeks. Essential places will be open. We are not the only state that have this. Experts, how do think is this going to impact the Aprill 11 start sailing cruise dates? Requardless if we sail or dont on the 11th, I will still cruise when we are allowed to. Cruise fan forever!!! RCIfan1912 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLMoran Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 I think April 11 was always a "test the waters" date. Containment of the virus has failed in the US, and now it's a matter of trying like mad to slow the rate of infection. Given the same number of people are going to get infected, just more slowly (I hope!! People like those college kids who insisted on going to Miami Beach for spring break are not making the effort easy!!), I have every expectation that there will be an extension of the restart date, with further cancellations and refunds/credits issues. I'm also sticking it out to the bitter end. August is over 4 months away. Current talk from the disease specialists in DC is starting to talk about this slowing down in April or May, and looking at how to start resuming normal life then without also causing a big resurgence in the virus. Hopefully those are statements based on newly-learned or confirmed facts about the virus, and not just a PR statement to reassure us. bytheslice, RCIfan1912, Ogilthorpe and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmar02 Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 We don't have a statewide shelter in place, but Dallas county issued one that goes into effect tonight at midnight. Cities around Dallas have been following their lead, and the mayor of our town, which is in the county just north of Dallas, has said he is making an announcement in the morning regarding a shelter order. I think more rural cities and counties will trickle into the same situation as the virus continues to spread, and at this point April 11 isn't likely. I've pretty much given up hope for my May 25th sailing... I'm feel like I'm playing a game of chicken with Royal to see who will cancel first. WAAAYTOOO, Wnuk, Okgladgal and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okgladgal Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 33 minutes ago, melmar02 said: We don't have a statewide shelter in place, but Dallas county issued one that goes into effect tonight at midnight. Cities around Dallas have been following their lead, and the mayor of our town, which is in the county just north of Dallas, has said he is making an announcement in the morning regarding a shelter order. I think more rural cities and counties will trickle into the same situation as the virus continues to spread, and at this point April 11 isn't likely. I've pretty much given up hope for my May 25th sailing... I'm feel like I'm playing a game of chicken with Royal to see who will cancel first. Same for us in Houston. I'm playing that same game of chicken with RC with my 5/3 cruise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanelli56 Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 50 minutes ago, melmar02 said: We don't have a statewide shelter in place, but Dallas county issued one that goes into effect tonight at midnight. Cities around Dallas have been following their lead, and the mayor of our town, which is in the county just north of Dallas, has said he is making an announcement in the morning regarding a shelter order. I think more rural cities and counties will trickle into the same situation as the virus continues to spread, and at this point April 11 isn't likely. I've pretty much given up hope for my May 25th sailing... I'm feel like I'm playing a game of chicken with Royal to see who will cancel first. Def. a game. But more of flipping a coin. But... Heads we win... Tails they lose. lol We're booked for late May to Alaska.... and we are not cancelling. IF we get to go.... great, but if RCI cancels, we'll gladly take our 125%. I know a lot of things would have to fall into place for that to happen right now. And matter of a fact I personally think that late May will be the earliest anyone would get to even think about going. But rest assured, they are going to jump as quick as they can to get things back up and running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLMoran Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 48 minutes ago, vanelli56 said: Def. a game. But more of flipping a coin. But... Heads we win... Tails they lose. lol We're booked for late May to Alaska.... and we are not cancelling. IF we get to go.... great, but if RCI cancels, we'll gladly take our 125%. I know a lot of things would have to fall into place for that to happen right now. And matter of a fact I personally think that late May will be the earliest anyone would get to even think about going. But rest assured, they are going to jump as quick as they can to get things back up and running. Don't forget that with Alaska, there is the dependency on the Canadian port visit to satisfy the Jones Act. Canada still has all ports closed until July, so even if domestic cruising to the Caribbean opens up again in May (a fairly big "if"; Caribbean ports could continue denying access to ships), Alaskan itineraries won't resume then if Canada doesn't reopen Vancouver and/or Victoria early. Ogilthorpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadster Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 So far, Gov. Hogan of Maryland has stopped short of a shelter-in-place order, but I can't help but think (and as someone in the world of emergency management, kinda hope) that it's coming soon enough. More non-essential businesses were closed today, and of course, there's still no word on when the Cruise Maryland Terminal will re-open. I'm definitely staring down RCCL over my June cruise to Canada; I've got a July itinerary booked, too...but I really don't want to go ahead and cancel the June one because I'm inside final payment and I'd rather Royal blink first and I get the better deal. We cruisers are a stubborn bunch! shaydav19 and Ogilthorpe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlena Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 In quebec Canada we have had our kids out of school for 2 weeks and at least another 5 more weeks to go. As healthcare workers we have also been asked not to travel till at least the (end) summer. Oh...and the borders are closed...lol. Everything but essential services open. And they want to start giving fines to people for social gathering over 2 people... Oy... I need a cruise... Ogilthorpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJustin Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 We are looking at booking April 24th for a short 3 day. What do you think the chances are of going? 50%, 75%? 25%? It would be to the Caribbean so just Nassau and CocoCay/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfsu21 Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, LJustin said: We are looking at booking April 24th for a short 3 day. What do you think the chances are of going? 50%, 75%? 25%? It would be to the Caribbean so just Nassau and CocoCay/ 0.0 Poolside, DDaley and Neesa 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancity Cruiser Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, LJustin said: We are looking at booking April 24th for a short 3 day. What do you think the chances are of going? 50%, 75%? 25%? It would be to the Caribbean so just Nassau and CocoCay/ 0% Neesa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLMoran Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Marlena said: In quebec Canada we have had our kids out of school for 2 weeks and at least another 5 more weeks to go. In New Jersey, the schools also closed 2 weeks ago and are now closed for the entire rest of the school year. All students, whether college or lower level, are on distance learning. We're also under near-lockdown conditions since this past Friday. No non-essential travel, and no travel at all after 9 PM. All essential businesses and restaurants that offer take-out or delivery must be closed by 8 PM, with employees home by the 9 PM curfew, with the exception of course of hospitals and their employees. I'm trying to work out out how to properly use my wet-dry beard trimmer and shaver to give myself a passable haircut. With barbers closed for the foreseeable future, I'm really glad that I started just getting a buzz cut all over once a month or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfsu21 Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Vancity Cruiser said: 0% I would take this even a step further and say anything before 10/1/20 is 0% especially since this virus is just ramping up now. It’s going to take many months to clean up this mess and what’s to say the company survives the financial slaughter? Just trying to be real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlena Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, JLMoran said: In New Jersey, the schools also closed 2 weeks ago and are now closed for the entire rest of the school year. All students, whether college or lower level, are on distance learning. We're also under near-lockdown conditions since this past Friday. No non-essential travel, and no travel at all after 9 PM. All essential businesses and restaurants that offer take-out or delivery must be closed by 8 PM, with employees home by the 9 PM curfew, with the exception of course of hospitals and their employees. I'm trying to work out out how to properly use my wet-dry beard trimmer and shaver to give myself a passable haircut. With barbers closed for the foreseeable future, I'm really glad that I started just getting a buzz cut all over once a month or two. Wowsa... that's a lot of time at home with our kids....love them to death but they are exhausting! If our kids cant go to school, there is no way we will be allowed to travel IMO. When do they normally finish? We go all the way till end of june. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellcee Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 I’ve been home - now on my 11th day with one breakout. My original date to go back was April 3rd. Today we were told that date is indefinite. My job is in NYC. I can only hope cruises go back soon. I need something to look forward to and I’m tired of being home. This one needs a grooming. Chadster, JLMoran, Ogilthorpe and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLMoran Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 17 hours ago, Marlena said: When do [schools in NJ] normally finish? We go all the way till end of june. Almost the same here. Current schedule had the public schools getting out on Wednesday, June 24. No idea if they'll end things earlier, or extend the spring break week at all since we still have a bunch of unused snow days, or what. My older one's college was going to be done in early May, so it's less of a disruption for her but still problematic. She's a vocal performance major, and the opera she and her classmates were working on has been pushed to the fall semester. All of their other public performances, which are the highlight of their semesters, are also gone. Thankfully, most of what they were working on for this semester apart from the opera was already done, but they can't even go out and do gigs or anything. For some of the older students, that's their part-time job and source of income, so they're feeling the pinch. And no one has any idea of whether we'll see any tuition or residence money refunded. They got kicked out of school two months ahead of schedule, but paid for a full semester in their dorms / apartments. I know the university still has to pay the lease / bond / whatever that went into those buildings, plus maintenance including over the summer... but it's still gonna sting if they get absolutely none of it back. They were only back on campus for 2 months before this all hit the fan. Boston Babe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Babe Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 Today, here in Delaware, we start the stay in Place. They did cancel school now till May 15th. At that point why not the whole school year! LOL I've been working from home remotely for a NJ Financial firm, so I'm already set up and have no issues. Most of our clients are in NJ/NY though so the phones are not ringing except to SELL! LOL Don't have any cruises booked till December and who knows if I make that one. Everyone stay safe!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadster Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 On 3/24/2020 at 1:29 PM, JLMoran said: Almost the same here. Current schedule had the public schools getting out on Wednesday, June 24. No idea if they'll end things earlier, or extend the spring break week at all since we still have a bunch of unused snow days, or what. My older one's college was going to be done in early May, so it's less of a disruption for her but still problematic. She's a vocal performance major, and the opera she and her classmates were working on has been pushed to the fall semester. All of their other public performances, which are the highlight of their semesters, are also gone. Thankfully, most of what they were working on for this semester apart from the opera was already done, but they can't even go out and do gigs or anything. For some of the older students, that's their part-time job and source of income, so they're feeling the pinch. And no one has any idea of whether we'll see any tuition or residence money refunded. They got kicked out of school two months ahead of schedule, but paid for a full semester in their dorms / apartments. I know the university still has to pay the lease / bond / whatever that went into those buildings, plus maintenance including over the summer... but it's still gonna sting if they get absolutely none of it back. They were only back on campus for 2 months before this all hit the fan. My college is currently putting a move-out plan in place -- students' stuff is still in their dorms despite no students allowed on campus for 2 weeks now -- and the college will be refunding a pro-rated amount of room/board. Tuition, no...because we're all still doing distance learning, so our educations are continuing. JLMoran and WAAAYTOOO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FManke Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 Here in Illinois, it's kind of been a mixed bag. My youngest, a HS senior is doing e-learning. Schools are closed for the near future. Only essential businesses are supposed to be open, but in Illinois that includes liquor stores? All restaurants are only, pick up or delivery, with many of they doing curbside and not allowing anyone indoors. They don't want you to gather in large groups, but you can stand in line at the grocery stores, trying to find essentials like tp that for some reason is being hoarded. One day at a time. That's all we can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadster Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 27 minutes ago, FManke said: Here in Illinois, it's kind of been a mixed bag. My youngest, a HS senior is doing e-learning. Schools are closed for the near future. Only essential businesses are supposed to be open, but in Illinois that includes liquor stores? All restaurants are only, pick up or delivery, with many of they doing curbside and not allowing anyone indoors. They don't want you to gather in large groups, but you can stand in line at the grocery stores, trying to find essentials like tp that for some reason is being hoarded. One day at a time. That's all we can do. Same to all the above here in Maryland. I can't help but wonder if the liquor stores staying open (here, they're doing online/call-in order with curbside pickup) are a reaction to all the kids being home from school. shaydav19 and JLMoran 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FManke Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 42 minutes ago, Chadster said: Same to all the above here in Maryland. I can't help but wonder if the liquor stores staying open (here, they're doing online/call-in order with curbside pickup) are a reaction to all the kids being home from school. I could be wrong, but I feel that the state of Illinois keeping liquor stores open has something to do with the amount of lottery tickets purchased at liquor stores. Just saying. We need to shelter in place, but not if it effects lottery sales. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadster Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, FManke said: I could be wrong, but I feel that the state of Illinois keeping liquor stores open has something to do with the amount of lottery tickets purchased at liquor stores. Just saying. We need to shelter in place, but not if it effects lottery sales. That, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, FManke said: I could be wrong, but I feel that the state of Illinois keeping liquor stores open has something to do with the amount of lottery tickets purchased at liquor stores. Just saying. We need to shelter in place, but not if it effects lottery sales. In Denver they initially ruled liquor stores must close. Within minutes long lines formed and the city was inundated with complaints. Within hours they exempted liquor stores so they could stay open. No lottery sales at liquor stores here. Chadster and WAAAYTOOO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobroo Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 Is it not baffling that Florida does not have a statewide stay-at-home order??? luv2sail 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FManke Posted March 27, 2020 Report Share Posted March 27, 2020 2 hours ago, twangster said: In Denver they initially ruled liquor stores must close. Within minutes long lines formed and the city was inundated with complaints. Within hours they exempted liquor stores so they could stay open. No lottery sales at liquor stores here. What about the dispensaries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellcee Posted March 27, 2020 Report Share Posted March 27, 2020 NY the liquor stores are open. Also - our restaurants are selling curbside pickup cocktails/beer/wine with your food pickup. It's kinda awesome and it keeps restaurants in business. Ogilthorpe and JLMoran 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogilthorpe Posted March 27, 2020 Report Share Posted March 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, ellcee said: NY the liquor stores are open. Also - our restaurants are selling curbside pickup cocktails/beer/wine with your food pickup. It's kinda awesome and it keeps restaurants in business. It was an unexpected deviation from policy, until a couple of weeks ago, we couldn't even buy wine in a grocery store ... now mixed drinks to go! There is the provision that food has to be part of the order. At the same time, I could imagine ..."I would like a French fry .... and 12 Harvey Wallbangers ....to go" JLMoran and Chadster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellcee Posted March 27, 2020 Report Share Posted March 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ogilthorpe said: It was an unexpected deviation from policy, until a couple of weeks ago, we couldn't even buy wine in a grocery store ... now mixed drinks to go! There is the provision that food has to be part of the order. At the same time, I could imagine ..."I would like a French fry .... and 12 Harvey Wallbangers ....to go" I love it so much. I haven't done it yet but I'm going to. My friends have been posting the fun cocktails and the creative way restaurants have been making it work...adult capri suns. Bottling cocktails. Mason jars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogilthorpe Posted March 27, 2020 Report Share Posted March 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, ellcee said: the creative way restaurants have been making it work...adult capri suns. Bottling cocktails. Mason jars. A small change to the wording of the order made ALL the difference, originally, it read "original and closed containers" then it was changed to "original OR closed containers" that opened up all sorts of possibilities!! Have a gallon jug with a cap? ... now you have a party! ellcee and Chadster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted March 27, 2020 Report Share Posted March 27, 2020 I love seeing all of the creative ways American businesses are innovating to overcome the negative effects of this misery. Most of our local restaurants are providing take out and delivery and providing support (meals) to our local HCP and first responders. It really is heart warming and a reminder that nothing is more powerful than love and good ol’ American ingenuity. I don’t think our liquor laws allow alcohol to be taken out. I haven’t heard of anything like that, locally. Ogilthorpe, Chadster and ellcee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellcee Posted March 27, 2020 Report Share Posted March 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: I don’t think our liquor laws allow alcohol to be taken out. I'm pretty sure our don't either. I'm not sure how it works and don't want to question it. I'll take it!!!! Ogilthorpe and WAAAYTOOO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogilthorpe Posted March 27, 2020 Report Share Posted March 27, 2020 NY always had very strict rules about liquor sales, and any form of carryout was prohibited. Oddly, just to the south of us is Pennsylvania, where you could always get carry out from a bar. They, in contrast to NY, closed all of the liquor stores, going so far as to board some up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadster Posted March 27, 2020 Report Share Posted March 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Ogilthorpe said: "I would like a French fry .... and 12 Harvey Wallbangers ....to go" Were you following me as I got my breakfast? shaydav19, JLMoran, Ogilthorpe and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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