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O5 named Wonder Of The Seas - sailing from Asia

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Couple of observations....

  • All the people who "reported" Melody was definitely the name....just further evidence cannot trust the rumor mill implicitly.
  • I really like the name. I get Disney has a ship called Wonder, but half the ships in the cruise industry share names (Carnival Liberty, Liberty of the Seas, etc).  Ultimately, it doesn't matter.
  • Yes, I'm disappointed I wont be able to sail on her anytime soon since she's going to China. Alas, the first four Oasis Class ships came to USA, so we're still doing pretty good.
  • I really, really like the new design, especially the upper decks. Looks futuristic.

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1 hour ago, twangster said:

Zero reason to link a ship going to an emerging market with an impact to an existing market.

With the North American market predicted to head into a recession why wouldn't they put a ship in a market that will be able to support it while North America is struggling?  Smart business - diversify.   When one region is soft the company isn't at risk.      

China has a dept bubble much larger than the United States & a declining currency, not entirely because of the notion they are manipulating their currency to sell more product to America...they are in a real slowdown.

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1 hour ago, Zambia-Zaire said:

China has a dept bubble much larger than the United States & a declining currency, not entirely because of the notion they are manipulating their currency to sell more product to America...they are in a real slowdown.

Not saying it's perfect over there either, but it's about to blow up over here so diversify.  

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This messed up my plans for a TA  back to the US on an Oasis class ship in 2021, hence the other post looking to see where Adventure & Liberty would be amped at. 🙄

I wished the would have just send Oasis over there to China with CAT's and gave us Melody of the Seas, Wonder was picked due to that market is what I've been told.

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11 minutes ago, mworkman said:

This messed up my plans for a TA  back to the US on an Oasis class ship in 2021, hence the other post looking to see where Adventure & Liberty would be amped at. 🙄

I wished the would have just send Oasis over there to China with CAT's and gave us Melody of the Seas, Wonder was picked due to that market is what I've been told.

Well, Oasis ots has vegetation in Central Park...at first glance, it doesn't appear that Wonder otS Central Park has any...looks more like Tiananmen Square.

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19 minutes ago, mworkman said:

This messed up my plans for a TA  back to the US on an Oasis class ship in 2021, hence the other post looking to see where Adventure & Liberty would be amped at. 🙄

I wished the would have just send Oasis over there to China with CAT's and gave us Melody of the Seas, Wonder was picked due to that market is what I've been told.

Royal will place ships where it maximizes revenue.  At the moment that is Asia.  Like carnival dominating California Royal has established a significant presence in Asia while other lines faltered.  It's likely easier to purpose build a ship rather then convert one.  It's all about the money.  

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24 minutes ago, Zambia-Zaire said:

Well, Oasis ots has vegetation in Central Park...at first glance, it doesn't appear that Wonder otS Central Park has any...looks more like Tiananmen Square.

Hard to judge anything about Central Park. The angle of the rendering gives no insight.

One possibility is CP might be more of a greenhouse vs open. Could possibly solve any agricultural regulation problems.

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What a shame! Sailed all 4 of the older sisters and since Oasis Class are the best in the fleet, I really wanted to sail on her.

Wish I could do a new ship rather than having to repeat ships, if only Odyssey was an Oasis Class (did they need 5 Quantum Class ships? They were always a polarising class).

I will say that the design looks cool.

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3 hours ago, Matt said:
  • I really, really like the new design, especially the upper decks. Looks futuristic.

Good to see Royal innovating given the first Oasis class ship was designed in 2006-7.  

Deck 17 looks interesting with a rear facing open deck, presumably for Golden Suites.  I think the pink crane shield over the Aqua Theater was really smart (just kidding).  

Hopefully she'll have a similar itinerary to Spectrum when she launches so some of us have a chance at booking her before she reaches China.

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43 minutes ago, Zambia-Zaire said:

I will take it, only if it help my Social Credit Score. 😐

I wanted to give you a laughing emoticon, but this is sad. I think you and I are on the same page with this one. Just for conversing on here regarding the Wonder has dropped our score. Oh well.

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Interesting move, makes sense since Asia is doing well. Looks good - quite futuristic nice update on the Oasis design. This might be a clue as why Quantum was showing in Napier (New Zealand) port schedule in 2022 and as previously mentioned it could end up between Australia/Pacific & West Coast. Let's see what happens!

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Clearly they are looking to maximise revenue.  The smart move royal are making is that they are putting customised ships that meet the needs of audience (well in China anyway). 

If you read the blurb they have on Culturally Enriching Cruises.... it sort of pushes what they are going for: https://www.royalcaribbean.com/faq/questions/what-are-culturally-enriching-cruises-from-mainland-china?country=USA

Every cruise market is different too.  It just depends on how different.

In Australia, we rarely tip.  We just pay the total.  As a result (and also due to Australian consumer law) on cruises booked from Australia (ie: on the Royal Caribbean website) our daily gratuities are included in the base price.  Or... when I go to the local store and buy things.... I only pay the price on the ticket because sales tax must be included in the sticker price.

Anyway... the point is, the chinese market is so clearly different that the best course of action for Royal Caribbean to maximise the revenue they get from Chinese sailings is to have ships designed to meet the needs of the market. Shoehorning an American focused ship on to chinese consumers is never going to cut it.

That said... one chinese custom that would be VERY welcome on ships I am sailing on would be Yum Cha served at least a few times a cruise.  Would be excellent for hangovers. 🙂

Finally...  apologies if this post was a rambling mess.  I am still waking up!

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13 hours ago, twangster said:

There rumblings of a 4,000 passenger ship coming to California.  Splitting Quantum between Australia and California, Ovation between Australia and Alaska.  Hmmm.  Interesting times coming this fall as more 2021 itineraries are announced.  

Yes, it's already showing up on some port schedules around the Aus/NZ region for 2022.

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15 hours ago, Skatepunk said:

Personally cannot wait to see what itineraries it has, need to explore this part of the world more. 

Couldnt agree more 🙂 

Travelled to a number of Asain counties but still a lot i want to visit, a cruise departing China taking in a places like HK, Japan,  Thailand,  Vietnam,  Philippines etc would be great 

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