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I realized that no one had started this for Voyager's AMP yet so here it is. I didn't include the actual deck plans as to not clutter the forum and only mentioned changes in the deck plans so things like Laser Tag aren't mentioned.

Deck 2

  • No changes

Deck 3

  • La Scala Theatre renamed Royal Theatre
  • Sapphire Dining Room renamed to Main Dining Room

Deck 4

  • La Scala Theatre renamed Royal Theatre
  • Sapphire Dining Room renamed to Main Dining Room

Deck 5

  • The Golden Room converted to Diamond Lounge
  • Sapphire Dining Room renamed to Main Dining Room

Deck 6

  • No changes

Deck 7

  • No changes

Deck 8

  • 5 new 4V Interior staterooms (8127, 8129, 8131, 8133, 8135, 8137)
  • 4 new 4V Interior staterooms replacing Royal Caribbean Online (8321, 8323, 8325, 8327)

Deck 9

  • 4 new 4V Interior staterooms replacing the Concierge Club (9329, 9331, 9333, 9335)

Deck 10

  • No changes

Deck 11

  • Vitality at Sea Fitness Center replaced with new staterooms
  • 15 new 4V Interior staterooms (1101, 1103, 1105, 1113, 1115, 1117, 1119, 1151, 1155, 1157, 1159, 1161, 1165, 1167, 1169)
  • 17 new 6D Ocean View Balcony staterooms (1100, 1102, 1106, 1108, 1116, 1118, 11220, 1122, 1150, 1152, 1158, 1160, 1162, 1164, 1166, 1168, 1170)
  • 6 new J4 Junior Suites (1104, 1110, 1112, 1114, 1154, 1156)

Deck 12

  • Johnny Rockets removed
  • Teen Club, Adventure Ocean, and Arcade moved to starboard side
  • Vitality at Sea Fitness Center and Spa moved to former Arcade and Adventure Ocean location port side aft
  • 21 new 4V Interior staterooms in the former Vitality at Sea Spa location (1801, 1803, 1805, 1807, 1809, 1811, 1813, 1815, 1817, 1819, 1821, 1823, 1825, 1827, 1829, 1851, 1853, 1855, 1857, 1859, 1861)

Deck 13

  • The Perfect Storm water slides added

Deck 14

  • Diamond Club converted to Suite Lounge

Deck 15

  • No changes

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Thanks heaps for this! Helpful to see all the changes clearly laid out. 

Curious about the removal of the Arcade. They are still selling arcade credit on my cruise planner for December.

Do you think they will put the game machines somewhere else, and if so where? My Sisters kids will be on this cruise, and I'm sure they'd like to play if there is an arcade available.

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44 minutes ago, Vanessa77 said:

Thanks heaps for this! Helpful to see all the changes clearly laid out. 

Curious about the removal of the Arcade. They are still selling arcade credit on my cruise planner for December.

Do you think they will put the game machines somewhere else, and if so where? My Sisters kids will be on this cruise, and I'm sure they'd like to play if there is an arcade available.

The arcade still exists. It will just be a bit smaller and moved to the other side of the same area.

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I was looking forward to Johnny Rockets 😖 as it is slim pickings without it and I imagine teenagers would love the vibe it had.I thought they might add a new specialty restaurant but it seems the almighty dollar from more passengers won the day....It is good there is a new suite lounge with a view though

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I was disappointed with the removal of Johnny Rockets too.  Oh well... you cant win them all.

For those interested, there is a facebook page "Singapore Cruise Society" where they are getting pics from people on the ship whilst the work is ongoing. Quite cool seeing it all!

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Now with the release of the details of Explorers refit announced, those down under who are left with Voyager must be scratching their heads. All ships were anounced under the Royal Amplification program and made people excited and want to book them. Navigator, Mariner and now Explorer have certainly been Amplified while the Australian/NZ market gets Voyager which has been AMPUTATED.

Removal of public space/restaurants and the addition of extra cabins is going to make this clearly the least desirable of all Voyager class ships.

 

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46 minutes ago, bretts173 said:

Now with the release of the details of Explorers refit announced, those down under who are left with Voyager must be scratching their heads. All ships were anounced under the Royal Amplification program and made people excited and want to book them. Navigator, Mariner and now Explorer have certainly been Amplified while the Australian/NZ market gets Voyager which has been AMPUTATED.

Removal of public space/restaurants and the addition of extra cabins is going to make this clearly the least desirable of all Voyager class ships.

I agree. Unfortunately I think Voyager has been amped for the asian market only and the Australian market suffers.  Spectrum of the Seas has been designed for the Asian market and will stay there.  Why not leave Voyager there and give us something else.

Australia is the biggest cruise market per capita in the world, why not display your best product?

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@bretts173 I feel like you explained the comparative disappointment in the Voyager AMP perfectly in the Oasis chain.

They have sold the Amplification Program as a certain style, and they have not only not delivered on that style for the Voyager, but have fallen far short.

If they had simply said that the ship was going in for a refresh/refurbishment, then I don't think we'd have a leg to stand on for being disappointed. But the fact that they are trying to sell this as the same improvement program as Mariner, Navigator, and now Explorer just leaves me really confused. 

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18 minutes ago, Vanessa77 said:

If they had simply said that the ship was going in for a refresh/refurbishment, then I don't think we'd have a leg to stand on for being disappointed. But the fact that they are trying to sell this as the same improvement program as Mariner, Navigator, and now Explorer just leaves me really confused. 

I think you summed it up perfectly @Vanessa77 !!

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What a crap AMP that is...how/what would they sell customers on that?....I mean, some waterslides I guess...other than that..its take away stuff, cram more rooms in to make more $$......:34_rolling_eyes:

 

What are they changing/getting rid of on deck 11 to add ALL these cabins??!

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7 minutes ago, monctonguy said:

What a crap AMP that is...how/what would they sell customers on that?....I mean, some waterslides I guess...other than that..its take away stuff, cram more rooms in to make more $$......:34_rolling_eyes:

 

What are they changing/getting rid of on deck 11 to add ALL these cabins??!

They’re moving the gym from Deck 11 forward to Deck 12 aft and turning the old space into cabins. On Deck 12 aft, they got rid of JR and are shrinking AO, the arcade, and the teen space to make room for the gym + spa.

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12 minutes ago, monctonguy said:

What a crap AMP that is...how/what would they sell customers on that?....I mean, some waterslides I guess...other than that..its take away stuff, cram more rooms in to make more $$......:34_rolling_eyes:

 

What are they changing/getting rid of on deck 11 to add ALL these cabins??!

They sold it by advertising all Amps under one banner. To be fair it is still an Amp.  An Amputation. 

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They move the Diamond Lounge and I assume smaller now. I think they try to get more money with Suite booking by adding Suite Lounge so now people book on suites feel they get what worth of their money or they can charge more for suite. 

Still an Amp !!!! they add the slide.

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16 minutes ago, monctonguy said:

Well I guess this should be good for the customer..more cabins sold means Royal can lower the overall cost of the cabins now for everyone that sails on Voyager.....

As if that will ever happen. I think one of the reasons they are calling this an AMP may be to charge more for cabins...

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My correspondence and reply, all this does is tell me that there is a great demand in Australiabut hey we will still give you what s left over.

Dear Sir,

 

I write to you in attempt to understand where you see the future of your company in Australia and why there seems to be an apparent lack of respect for us cruisers Down Under. All Voyager class ships were advertised as receiving the big Amplification under the same banner, new features, bars and restaurants.

 Today with the announcement of the Explorer Amp, it seems only Voyager has been left out.

 Now as I see it Voyager will see a decrease in public space while gaining yet more cabins. The suite lounge will be enhanced but most rooms added are interior. 

 According to the new deck plans Johnny rockets will be removed (or replaced by Johnny rockets express potentially) but no new bars or restaurant facilities added to handle the extra people as has been included on other ships.

 What makes things worse is that when questioned RCI reps have replied to my polite questions with the response to any changes that this information will be given out after the drydock is completed.

 I booked my next cruise on Voyager having seen the wonderful things done on her sisters and the advertising and pre announcement buzz but feel a little short changed. 

 I am just one of many on our local cruise forums who are concerned about where we are heading.

 Regards

 

THE REPLY

 

Good morning 

 

Many thanks for your email to Michael Bayley regarding Voyager of the Seas ‘amplification’. Please know that whilst I look after our commercial activities outside of North America and China, I am an Aussie, living with my family in Sydney, and I have been responsible for the Australian business for more than 10 years. On that basis, I confirm that there is no lack of respect for our local cruise guests - in fact our local market is highly regarded and very much respected within our corporation.

I would like to share some of my thoughts with you to answer your questions and concerns. As you know, Voyager of the Seas is a much loved member of the Royal Caribbean International fleet, and she has enjoyed amazing popularity in Australia. We redeployed Voyager away from Australia in 2018 to satisfy demand we were experiencing in Asia, and at that time we revised the ‘amplification’ scope to consider the needs of our Asia guests where the ship was expected to remain for some years. The impact on the Australian business of removing the ship was significant, and demand from our guests exceeded the berths available on the remaining ships. For this reason, we decided to bring Voyager back to Australia for the coming summer. Unfortunately, we were not able to re-schedule the full ‘Aussie amplification’ as the scope of work had already been agreed, and the time out of service had been published. I think you will find Voyager of the Seas looking amazing when she returns to Sydney, and we are already in planning for further ‘amplification work during her next scheduled out of service period in 2022.

Please be assured that we will do everything we can to make every guest experience onboard Voyager of the Seas memorable, on every cruise, every year. I do hope you are able to continue to support Royal Caribbean in Australia and I hope we see you onboard again soon.

 

Kind regards

 

Gavin

 

Gavin Smith

SVP International

Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd.

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So we Aussies must wait for the promised cruise until 2022 to get what everyone else is being delivered now ...but hey you can pay for the amp while you wait 😒 also  'demand from our guests exceeded the berths available on the remaining ships' seems to sum up the mistake they made catering only to the 'needs of our Asia guests '   Australia is  getting  a raw deal from Royal Caribbean and excuses do not explain increased fares with decreased amenities😞 ...I am not complaining on my account I am booked into a suite for my next cruise on Voyager and will enjoy the new suite lounge 🍹 but if I were a family with teenagers who love JR or a gym junkie I would not at all feel happy about the changes. I will be looking for a different ship when planning another cruise with RC and probably an oversea departure port as well

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2 hours ago, bretts173 said:
 we are already in planning for further ‘amplification work during her next scheduled out of service period in 2022.

I wonder if this is in response to feedback the have received on this current 'amplification'.

Also, dang 2022 is ages away. I'm sure the ship will be lovely and fresh when she is out of dry dock, but if I book another cruise it wont be on her when there are ships like Ovation going from the same port. 

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8 hours ago, bretts173 said:

While the reply was welcome, he doesnt seem to grasp that the biggest gripe is that many of us only booked Voyager because of the advertising and hype. Didnt really answer the concerns the general customer has.

Corporate BS...they all do this....and hope that with their rambling on's or big words or pretty sentences the common person will shut up or put up with whatever they are complaining about...

 

Its all spin.....fake news..whatever descriptive words you want to use...they all use them..it means nothing, nor do they care at the end of the day about your concern or issue or complaint......."it's all about the Benjamin's baby...."..lol

 

They added more rooms which means more $$ for them, you lose space and enjoyment as a client.......sounds about right. Don't ever think they do anything for you or the customer at the end of the day..its all about $$$ for them.

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9 hours ago, bretts173 said:

We redeployed Voyager away from Australia in 2018 to satisfy demand we were experiencing in Asia, and at that time we revised the ‘amplification’ scope to consider the needs of our Asia guests where the ship was expected to remain for some years. The impact on the Australian business of removing the ship was significant, and demand from our guests exceeded the berths available on the remaining ships. For this reason, we decided to bring Voyager back to Australia for the coming summer. Unfortunately, we were not able to re-schedule the full ‘Aussie amplification’ as the scope of work had already been agreed, and the time out of service had been published. I think you will find Voyager of the Seas looking amazing when she returns to Sydney, and we are already in planning for further ‘amplification work during her next scheduled out of service period in 2022.

I think this is a fair and honest explanation. They thought they were going to send Voyager to Asia, and planned the refurb for that market. As it turns out, they will change and a new refurb will come later.

While that doesn't make the reality better in the short term, it does confirm that RC is not actively looking to ignore/overlook the Australian cruise market.  Gavin didn't dress up the response with marketing slogans and confusing terminology. He shared a pretty insightful look into what they were thinking, and what the plans are now.

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