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12 hours ago, twangster said:

Per the article Carnival's ship has 5,000 guests.  Which ship would that be?  ?

Yeah...I just figure the author was referring to or embellishing the maximum capacity of the Carnival Panorama which is around 4800 I think...regular capacity about 3960...since Panorama is hugely anticipated out here.

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3 hours ago, twangster said:

Which has the same stated clearance as the Lions Gate Bridge.  Ovation has passed under twice.

Wikipedia is not the source of all truth.

Q class was built with the canal expansion in mind. Voyager and Freedom class where built with thought that they would never leave the Caribbean. 

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/3764843/cruise-ships-lions-gate-bridge/

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11 hours ago, RoyalLaker said:

Correct, But they do not fit under the bridge of Americas.

The Serenade of the Seas (Radiance class) is going through the Panama Canal next May in order to transition to the Alaska/Australia markets.  This is the largest ship that Royal has sent through as far as I have been able to research.  All others have been Vision class or smaller.  I have thought and still do think that this is a trial run for Royal's larger ships.  If so then the west coast 2021 plan could be Voyager class or larger if all goes well next May.

 

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50 minutes ago, Shari said:

The Serenade of the Seas (Radiance class) is going through the Panama Canal next May in order to transition to the Alaska/Australia markets.  This is the largest ship that Royal has sent through as far as I have been able to research.  All others have been Vision class or smaller.  I have thought and still do think that this is a trial run for Royal's larger ships.  If so then the west coast 2021 plan could be Voyager class or larger if all goes well next May.

 

They can sail around South America if they choose to try that again.

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5 hours ago, RoyalLaker said:

Q class was built with the canal expansion in mind. Voyager and Freedom class where built with thought that they would never leave the Caribbean. 

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/3764843/cruise-ships-lions-gate-bridge/

Since that article in 2017 the Ovation of the seas, The Norwegian Bliss, and Norwegian Joy (all huge ships by any standard) have all passed under the Lions gate bridge to the port of Vancouver. 

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  • 3 weeks later...

Looks like it is just Celebrity?

 

"This good news also adds to what the Director of Excursions of Royal Caribbean International, Penn Zeilman, announced that they plan to return to Mazatlan by 2021 with the Royal Celebrity cruise, which demonstrates the confidence of the large shipping companies to Sinaloa he added."

https://themazatlanpost.com/2019/10/25/disney-cruises-will-increase-its-arrivals-to-sinaloa-from-4-to-30/

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18 hours ago, RoyalLaker said:

This good news also adds to what the Director of Excursions of Royal Caribbean International, Penn Zeilman, announced that they plan to return to Mazatlan by 2021 with the Royal Celebrity cruise

I bolded the mixed use of "RCI", "RCCL" and "Royal Celebrity" (which I've never seen before) to show why I never rely on a generic "Royal Caribbean" mention as a "smoking gun" of Royal Caribbean International's intentions to do anything. News outlets unfamiliar with the nature of RCCL's corporate structure play very loose with the use of the words.

Alas, looks like we have to wait a bit longer...

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On 12/22/2019 at 1:29 AM, bretts173 said:

So after the next drydock in singapore in may 2021 Voyager schedule according to Port bookings are as follows

 

Darwin - June 01

Brisbane - June 08

Sydney - June 10

Honolulu - June 21 arrive departing June 22.

 

Then I guess on to LA after that.

Maui just added her on June 23 

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https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/22213-los-angeles-plans-two-new-cruise-terminals.html

5000 passengers....obviously referring to an Oasis Class ship. Would be nice...but no other ports on the West Coast or Mexican Riviera can handle that size. So unless Royal is working with the Port as well as other ports down the line...there would be tendering galore at every destination, if something like this comes to fruition.

 

Neitherless, would be nice.....

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2 hours ago, Zambia-Zaire said:

https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/22213-los-angeles-plans-two-new-cruise-terminals.html

5000 passengers....obviously referring to an Oasis Class ship. Would be nice...but no other ports on the West Coast or Mexican Riviera can handle that size. So unless Royal is working with the Port as well as other ports down the line...there would be tendering galore at every destination, if something like this comes to fruition.

 

Neitherless, would be nice.....

 

Oasis class ships do not tender.No tender no Cabo! Quantum class makes more sense. 

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7 hours ago, crazytaxman said:

Would love to also see Royal be creative with their itineraries. A person can only go to the same ports so many times.

That's kind of hard to do out of California. Carnival branded ships do the same ports because that's all there is.  That's exactly the problem with California cruising, nowhere to go but the same ports.  

Voyager or any Royal ship will bring some relief and sneak away some cruisers from Carnival brands in the short term just so they can try something different but it will be the same ports.

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On ‎2020‎/‎01‎/‎24 at 8:33 AM, GlowTheWeird said:

Can’t wait til these are available to book....  Gives the west coaster that royal ‘fix’ til we can get across the nation for a longer cruise. 

Totally agree! So jealous of those folks who are able to take an uber down to the port for a weekend getaway cruise  

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Interesting.  The Royal app has Quantum in Singapore on March 8 - 13 then Los Angeles on Mar 9 - 13 with Catalina Island listed as the next port.
 
March 8 - 12 Singapore  
March 9 - 13 Los Angeles next port Catalina
March 13 - 18 Singapore
March 16 - 20 Los Angeles next port Catalina
March 18 - 22 Singapore
March 20 - 23 Los Angeles next port Ensenada 
March 22 - 27 Singapore
March 23 - 27  Los Angeles next port Catalina
March 27 - 30 Singapore
March 30 - Apr 3  Los Angeles next port Catalina
Mar 31 - Apr 3 Singapore
Apr 3 - 6 Los Angeles next port Ensenada 
 

I think the Singapore listings are the original cruises but the Los Angeles ones?  Who knows?

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6 minutes ago, Vangrizz said:

Voyager would be next year I think. It looks like they're thinking about getting Quantum out of Asia for this March. Don't blame them, but wouldn't it be hard to fill sailings this close in?

Yes, but that means good prices.  ? 

Millennium is coming over early to do some free first responder cruises then they added some Pacific Northwest and Alaska cruises starting April 20.  Rates are pretty good, $349 pp for 5 nights.  Verandah, Concierge and Aqua class are all the same price at $499 pp.  Plus she is recently revolutionized.  

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2 minutes ago, twangster said:

Yes, but that means good prices.  ? 

Millennium is coming over early to do some free first responder cruises then they added some Pacific Northwest and Alaska cruises starting April 20.  Rates are pretty good, $349 pp for 5 nights.  

Millennium makes sense (although that is a really good price), but if they're going to bring Quantum back to Los Angeles in March that would be a tough ship to fill on that short notice. Or is Quantum doing first responder cruises as well?

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I just went to the Royal app and see what you are saying with Quantum being for 2020.  Yes! I don’t blame them for moving out of Asia for the time-being either... I would think getting this planned logistically so close would be tough. Port schedules etc.   maybe some good pricing will come of the short notice for cruisers...While Royal will certainly take a hit financially with these changes... some awesome intro/last minUte pricing may be exactly what they need to get locals out in this west coast market introduced to the cruise line...Carnival is so popular out here.. blah.     

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15 minutes ago, Vangrizz said:

Millennium makes sense (although that is a really good price), but if they're going to bring Quantum back to Los Angeles in March that would be a tough ship to fill on that short notice. Or is Quantum doing first responder cruises as well?

Could be doing first responders but like when Empress and Majesty lost Cuba they sold those ships at ridiculously low rates and offered a lot of casino comps to fill the ships.  There was no single supplement and I added 6 cruises to my resume as a result.  

Better to minimize losses and cover some operating costs such as crew costs through daily gratuity charges plus a good way to shake up the west coast cruise industry with a cold weather ship in a colder ocean in the spring.  Quantum class is a good fit for CA cruising in the spring.  I also think people spend more on board when they get a bargain on the cruise fare.  Why not splurge on a beverage package or dining when the cruise cost so little?

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2 hours ago, GlowTheWeird said:

Interesting. I thought it was Voyager coming to the west coast. I can imagine some changes could come our way tho....  ready to drive to the port and not fly!! Woohoo!

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Voyager of the seas is showing up in Catalina July-Sept 2021

https://www.catalinachamber.com/community-information/catalina-cruise-ship-schedule/2021-cruise-ship-schedule/

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36 minutes ago, RoyalLaker said:

Voyager in 2021 has long been all but announced by Royal.  I suspect the interim shipyard visit they have planned for Voyager is to install the interface to accept shore power, a new requirement for ships in CA.  That's not a simple task as the power on a ship is a closed system that was never intended to be routinely switched over to shore power.  

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