WHStoneman Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Are there any additional perks for being a RCCL stockholder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Yes, stockholder benefits vary by the amount of stock you have....but it's become about as useless as the C&A balcony discount when trying to use the BOGOHO promos. Here's a link www.rclcorporate.com/investors/shareholder-benefit bobroo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jticarruthers Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Basically it would be a nice perk if you could ever use it. janza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHStoneman Posted January 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Thanks for the info (buried deep in the RCCL website)....now I see the Stockholder benefits with purchase of 100 shares of RCCL...small perk...but every little bit helps. What is the benefit? $250 Onboard Credit per Stateroom on Sailings of 14 or more nights. $200 Onboard Credit per Stateroom on Sailings of 10 to 13 nights. $100 Onboard Credit per Stateroom on Sailings of 6 to 9 nights. $50 Onboard Credit per Stateroom on Sailings of 5 nights or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerel Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 It's my understanding the benifits can't be used with the normal sales and promos, and in most cases the normal promos are better. Personally I wouldn't buy shares for deals, I'd by them to invest in the company. Plus one could argue, if you own shares you wouldn't want profit going to deals for shareholders. If it were profitable (via discounts) to get shares, then it can't be that much of a help to Royal. Baked Alaska 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Personally I wouldn't buy shares for deals, I'd by them to invest in the company. Great point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHStoneman Posted January 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Great point I invested in CCL and have received a 38.4% increase in value plus numerous OBC's. I treat Stock perks as an nontaxable dividend. Otherwise, I would have to pay taxes on the $100 dividend on a 1099. I am going to watch RCCL for the next three months and then decide if I want to invest in the minimum 100 shares requirement. Now we just need a Shareholders Cocktail Party event on board to seal the deal....vbg! DocLC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocLC Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 I invested in CCL and have received a 38.4% increase in value plus numerous OBC's. I treat Stock perks as an nontaxable dividend. Otherwise, I would have to pay taxes on the $100 dividend on a 1099. I am going to watch RCCL for the next three months and then decide if I want to invest in the minimum 100 shares requirement. Now we just need a Shareholders Cocktail Party event on board to seal the deal....vbg! I tried to convince my wife to buy cruise stock especially when we were sailing with Carnival Corp as we would have netted hundreds of dollars in OBC and the dividend paid on the stock, not to mention the increase in value since my desire to buy. Oh, well! WHStoneman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcarney Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 I tried to convince my wife to buy cruise stock especially when we were sailing with Carnival Corp as we would have netted hundreds of dollars in OBC and the dividend paid on the stock, not to mention the increase in value since my desire to buy. Oh, well! Back in the last decade I bought RCCL @ $44.88. I sold it in 2008 I believe at $8.64. It was not a good investment for me. :( At this point I wish I would have kept it, but better opportunities came along. DocLC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janza Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I bought RCCL stock back when it was $14.52!. Needless to say I'm happy with my investment, but other than that, I was never really able to take advantage of any discount. RoyalLaker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHStoneman Posted February 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I bought RCCL stock back when it was $14.52!. Needless to say I'm happy with my investment, but other than that, I was never really able to take advantage of any discount. You don't get a discount....you get an OBC for $100 on a six day cruise. RCCL does not volunteer this..you must send in the necessary paperwork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janza Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I mis-spoke saying "discount". I'm aware it's OBC. From what I read, you cannot combine it with C&A room discount, so I'm always going to take the $125 suite discount over the $100 OBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisercamper Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Can someone clarify for me- it says the benefit is not available on reduced-rate cruise fares. Is BOGO 50% off considered reduced rate? If that's the case what if I buy the shares (on our reservation I am guest #1 who paid full fare even thought the rest of my family are BOGO 50% off). Would I be able to get the shareholder OBC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I think that BOGO fares don't disqualify you from getting the shareholder benefit. (Reduced rates would be below the normal pricing available to everyone such as discounts to travel agents and such.) I will note that it doesn't matter who paid what amount — they'll look at the total price paid and any offers that anyone on that booking is receiving from Royal Caribbean. The key things that usually come up that will disqualify you are additional discounts (Crown & Anchor discounts being the prime suspect) or any onboard credit offers you're receiving from Royal Caribbean. The best thing is simply to apply for the benefit by sending in the appropriate email request and see what they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalLaker Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Are there any additional perks for being a RCCL stockholder? The only real perk is the dividend. DocLC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocLC Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 The only real perk is the dividend. And the pride of ownership in a great cruise company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amartincampbell Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 It is unfair that stockholders are in effect subsidising the incentives to other passengers. For example on my cruise this May, as an incentive the RCCL agent gave everyone booking with them an OBC of $300. I thought they were cutting their commission. Silly me! It now turns out that $240 would have been my OBC anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 I've own RCCL stock in one form or another for a long time now. It has been very profitable for me. But many would disagree with how I buy and sell. Royal overall is a solid company but the stock is driven by the public image of the company is doing. So major failures by Royal or the market in general is great buying points. If you buy Royal on one of these down turns and can hold for a longer period of time you will be very happy with the return. I purchase the stock at under $9.00 per share in September of 2001, as a overall market play along with Carnival, Disney, and the US Airlines. Within a few months the market returned to the correct level. I have and do put in for the cruise credit, but I have made many more cruise dollars have been paid from my market profits than from the extra discount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagolferbob Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Has anyone had any recent success in getting obc. I just got rejected with fares that said they were combinable. Sent back with quote from small print. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 14 hours ago, Vagolferbob said: Has anyone had any recent success in getting obc. I just got rejected with fares that said they were combinable. Sent back with quote from small print. The Shareholder benefit is not combinable with most promotions. Not surprised to hear of your experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 In days of old when there were not a constant stream of sales and promos, the stockholder benefit provided more than it does today. The cruising industry has changed significantly over the years. It's a lot more competitive and margins are thinner. Just like C&A loyalty discounts that don't always work or can't be applied to every sale, stockholder discounts can't either. The margins aren't there anymore to cover them. They can't sell cabins at a loss even for shareholders. On the bright side, as an investor, they aren't selling their cabins at a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion Thompson Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Here's a copy of an email I just sent to the Shareholder Benefit Team at RCCL: Thank you for responding to my request for a shareholder benefit and denial of same. I must tell you I am very disappointed in the payout of this program. I have been a shareholder for a long time for the express purpose of getting this benefit and I have only received it a few times for all of my sailings. We all try to get a deal when sailing and those with deals probably constitute most who sail with you so the benefit is rarely given. I think your advertising about this is VERY misleading and I wish you would pass this message along to RCL management and those responsible for this program. Owning stock is a totally separate entity from booking a deal while sailing. The two programs should operate on their own. Those of us who are shareholders would look more favorably upon RCL if that were the case. Right now I view it as a "come on" and you have to read the fine print to see what is really going to happen. Just look at the website you sent me and you will see I am right! Very misleading!! Better to have no program than one that makes your customers angry. Please pass this email to Mr. Fain. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbacardi5 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 7:05 PM, Vagolferbob said: Has anyone had any recent success in getting obc. I just got rejected with fares that said they were combinable. Sent back with quote from small print. I am sailing in a couple of days and I got the shareholder benefit. This is the second time I have taken advantage of it. The only real issue I have seen is it is not combinable with other OBC. If you do have a lower amount of OBC than what the shareholder benefit is, they should adjust it to the higher amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagolferbob Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Glad someone received some benefits. I sent email to Michael Bayley and Carlos Moya this morning giving them an update on how their program is working and referenced this thread and those on cruise critic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt H. Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 The RCCL Shareholder Benefit is a JOKE!!! If you obtain any type of discount on your cruise, the Shareholder's Benefit Department will subtract that from your benefit! In other words, they renege on their written word. Check it out, it's on their website! CUNARD and NCL will their shareholder's any benefit they qualify for, no matter what price or deal you get from your travel agent or online. That's how you're supposed to treat your loyal shareholders. I stopped sailing RCCL because of this. Until they change their "secret rules", I'm done with them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 The benefit of being a shareholder is the gain on your investment when the stock price increases in value. The company performing well and turning a profit is how they answer to shareholders. tiny260, Matt, JennyB and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 40 minutes ago, AshleyDillo said: The benefit of being a shareholder is the gain on your investment when the stock price increases in value. The company performing well and turning a profit is how they answer to shareholders. Unfortunately, the stock has been moving in the wrong direction lately and I hate to think about what this O debacle is going to do ! YIKES ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marti314 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Walt H. said: The RCCL Shareholder Benefit is a JOKE!!! If you obtain any type of discount on your cruise, the Shareholder's Benefit Department will subtract that from your benefit! In other words, they renege on their written word. Check it out, it's on their website! CUNARD and NCL will their shareholder's any benefit they qualify for, no matter what price or deal you get from your travel agent or online. That's how you're supposed to treat your loyal shareholders. I stopped sailing RCCL because of this. Until they change their "secret rules", I'm done with them! Does APPL give you discounts on their phones for buying their stock? This is a bit harsh for something that is completely not required and is a nice gesture. JennyB and Galveston Steve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skid Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 On 4/2/2019 at 9:49 AM, AshleyDillo said: The benefit of being a shareholder is the gain on your investment when the stock price increases in value. The company performing well and turning a profit is how they answer to shareholders. On 4/2/2019 at 10:30 AM, WAAAYTOOO said: Unfortunately, the stock has been moving in the wrong direction lately and I hate to think about what this O debacle is going to do ! YIKES ! Only the good news today...stock went up $8.09 (6.69%). See the details here AshleyDillo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Skid said: Only the good news today...stock went up $8.09 (6.69%). See the details here Yes ! Doing great recently ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHobbys Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 Unfortunately, like mentioned in previous posts - the shareholder benefit has become about useless for actual cruises. Therefore, my investment I've been holding RCL has ONLY been to get the dividend. Oh, and you have to hold 100 or more shares in order to actually 'qualify' for anything they offer - but the deals on the site or even through the casino are much better. Glad to see it jump today, though. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galveston Steve Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 I bought CCL after our first cruise on Carnival Celebration in 1987. We were so impressed with the cruise experience that we thought it would be a good investment, and it was! We sold it a few years later when I questioned some of the management decisions. After a couple cruises on RCL we bought stock because we also thought it would be a good investment. An innovative and creative company with assets that can be repositioned globally as market conditions change and plans to continuously and systematically upgrade those assets (ships) was very appealing. Their "double double" initiative to double profits and achieve double digit return on invested capital was ambitious, but was successfully realized. Like others noted above, purchasing RCL stock for me was about making a good investment in a product I am familiar with (similar to CCL years ago). I submit the Shareholder Benefit request form for every cruise. The rules are so complicated I have stopped trying to figure out if I qualify, so I make them tell me yes or no. I have received the benefit on a few cruises but I usually don't qualify. It doesn't matter because the benefit is price appreciation and dividends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl_nj Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 11 hours ago, Galveston Steve said: I submit the Shareholder Benefit request form for every cruise. The rules are so complicated I have stopped trying to figure out if I qualify, so I make them tell me yes or no. I have received the benefit on a few cruises but I usually don't qualify. The rules are so complicated, I’m not sure they fully understand either. Frequently I get some sort of partial credit, with a vague answer that doesn’t quite make sense. Doesn't really matter though, since the primary reason to own the stock is not this shareholder benefit plan. Galveston Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHobbys Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 @karl_nj, yeah it's not worth the time / hassle to try and figure out what / how / when / etc to qualify for some type of cruise benefit - so, I just hold my position and wait for the small little quarterly dividend to come in. At some point, that'll start to turn into my OBC, when I retire Galveston Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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