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I've hesitated to dive into this but would really like to hear from more experienced cruisers on what you have observed on past cruises. First, I like cold beer....sometimes I like several. But I think I do pretty well drawing the line and shutting it down. My wife likes a mixed drink, sometimes a second or third. She knows when to shut it down.

The cruises look like a good opportunity for someone to overdo it.....to the point of being a problem for others. With the drinks packages, numerous bars, party atmosphere, I'm sure the cruise staff, bartenders, security, etc. have procedures in dealing with these folks. What do they look for? What are the limits? What are the repercussions?

I'm not trying to be the party pooper but just wondering how it's handled. Thanks.

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44 minutes ago, rtread said:

What do they look for? What are the limits? What are the repercussions?

What they are looking for is when they feel you might become a problem to others or yourself. Good example might be not being able to safely walk... in calm seas.

Officially no limits on the amount of consumption. Some bartenders might impose a 10-15 minute break between drinks.

Repercussions could be getting cut off for the rest of the day. Extreme cases get completely cut off. If being a problem still continues it could enter the realm of getting kicked off.

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41 minutes ago, rtread said:

I've hesitated to dive into this but would really like to hear from more experienced cruisers on what you have observed on past cruises. First, I like cold beer....sometimes I like several. But I think I do pretty well drawing the line and shutting it down. My wife likes a mixed drink, sometimes a second or third. She knows when to shut it down.

The cruises look like a good opportunity for someone to overdo it.....to the point of being a problem for others. With the drinks packages, numerous bars, party atmosphere, I'm sure the cruise staff, bartenders, security, etc. have procedures in dealing with these folks. What do they look for? What are the limits? What are the repercussions?

I'm not trying to be the party pooper but just wondering how it's handled. Thanks.

That's a good question...they probably handle the situation as discreetly as possible.  I've never experienced anyone that rowdy on a cruise but would assume they take the same steps as the would in any nightclub.  I'm sure a bartender knows what signs to look for.  If you start to become obnoxious and belligerent, I'm sure security will step in and maybe escort you to your cabin and tell you to stay there to sleep it off.  And I would assume if you didn't, you'll be detained somewhere out of sight until you sobered up.  They probably wouldn't kick you off unless you caused serious damage or assault someone....I'm just speculating.

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I'm certainly no expert... but, it is a good question.

I think a revealing "sign" would be when the person is becoming AN EXPERT on any/all subjects.  Their voice is getting louder and louder.  Or, maybe, he (or she) has decided that any person within nine feet "deserves" a hug.  And, they're hell bent on furnishing "that hug".  (smiling here)

Anyhow... I have to agree with Mr. Candyman... using a level of discretion is probably helpful.  Like I said, it's not my place to choose what action they "should take".  But, how about these suggestions:

---->  Staff offering them a water.  Staff suggesting "It's a long cruise, we all want to pace ourselves my friend".

---->  Uniformed security staff stepping in.

Sorry, like I said... not my place to "say".  But, just my two cents.

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Myself... if I'm drinking... It's often going to be a blended drink (or something mixed, etc).  Personally, I like a drink for the FLAVOR of mixed fruit juices.  Not so much for the REASON of becoming drunk.

If I have one (or two) ... I'm fine. 

If I have a third, I start to feel a bit of a buzz.  Just depends on how fast they're being served.  And, how much booze is in there.

If I have a 4th/5th... then I know I'm basically on the border of becoming vulnerable.  It's a valid point.  Being able to walk, being able to hold (and, remembering to hold) the railing of a stairwell.  Remembering what my room number is.  Bumping into people.  Etc.  The slurred speech.  I guess we've all been there.

Okay, i'll be quiet.

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There are no doubt all kinds of scenarios where people could potentially get out of hand. Obviously the sad drunk that starts throwing up to the stone cold drunk that no amount of alcohol seems to put down, instead they just loose their mind and any sense of civility. Then there are groups that tend to feed off each other like young people or a themed cruse where a few hundred people that ride motorcycles, play banjos or work together in some capacity are cruising together.

A more low key event that makes people uncomfortable could be as simple as a half drunk that joins in on karaoke, dedicates a song to his wife and starts singing "You've lost that loving feeling" .

There are people with psychological issues. There was one very large man that carried around a stuffed toy monkey, he often talked to it and offered it bits of food.

All these cases can lead to discomfort among other passengers and they would all be handled in different ways. Ships can literally have hundreds of cameras in public areas monitored by security. No doubt security would like to be discrete in its handling of unruly passengers but ships do have a brig and passengers have been known to spend time there.

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There is no limit...unless your out of control...so the number of drinks doesn't matter...and to be honest, it'ss rare you see anyone out of control so I think Royal manages it well

 

For each person its different....I would say I normally consume 15-20 drinks a day and never had an issue on any cruise or resort south...

 

 

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On my recent Navigator sailing 2 guys got into a physical altercation on day 2.  One of them attempted to buy a drink the next day at the R Bar while I was sitting there and when the bartender (Treasure...awesome bartender!) swiped the Seapass card it said the guest was on restriction (I believe that was the terminology).  When the guest walked away I asked Treasure what that meant and he told me what happened.  

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On ‎5‎/‎28‎/‎2019 at 6:37 AM, Ditchdoc said:

A more low key event that makes people uncomfortable could be as simple as a half drunk that joins in on karaoke, dedicates a song to his wife and starts singing "You've lost that loving feeling" .

I didn't know this was a bad thing haha:2_grimacing:

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I saw this on a cruise recently, guy was at the bar all day, it was 3-4 in the afternoon, the bartender cut him off and told him he needed to eat some food, the guy didn't move, pretty soon a Bar Manager walked up with a plate of food and told the guy to eat and they started shoving water at him. 

So basically they cut him off, this guy wasn't loud or anything, but they knew that they had to cut him off or it would be a problem. I saw the guy the next morning on an excursion and he was in some pain.

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27 minutes ago, tiny260 said:

I saw this on a cruise recently, guy was at the bar all day, it was 3-4 in the afternoon, the bartender cut him off and told him he needed to eat some food, the guy didn't move, pretty soon a Bar Manager walked up with a plate of food and told the guy to eat and they started shoving water at him. 

So basically they cut him off, this guy wasn't loud or anything, but they knew that they had to cut him off or it would be a problem. I saw the guy the next morning on an excursion and he was in some pain.

I think the place where they’ll really need to enforce this cutting people off is on CocoCay, there were several twenty-something’s being wheeled around in wheelchairs after CocoCay on our sailing. I was behind one in our hallway who was yelling at the crew member who was getting her back to her room. 

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On a cruise last year there was a drunk in the elevator and a couple got on and the drunk made a comment. This other guy was obviously not someone to just ignore the drunk and leave it and they started squaring up. Not something you want in a confined space. Fortunately the door opened and we just got off.

Personally I don't care what people do to themselves and they can get 'in a coma drunk' for all I care.. but I have zero tolerance when they start bothering other people or making me walk 3 flights of stairs. On the plus side, extra steps = extra cookie.

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Our last cruise in January on Grandeur, there was a fellow down the hall in his room in "time out".   Security was stationed there for 24 hours and food was brought to the room.   No further issues the rest of the cruise.    I think he and one of his buddies got out of the way.   It was handled well by the staff, we thought.  

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18 hours ago, Andrew72681 said:

I think the place where they’ll really need to enforce this cutting people off is on CocoCay, there were several twenty-something’s being wheeled around in wheelchairs after CocoCay on our sailing. I was behind one in our hallway who was yelling at the crew member who was getting her back to her room. 

I remember seeing several pier running video's with people so drunk they couldn't even make it back on the ship without help, so yes I agree, they need to watch consumption.

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Great Question ....

(one thing that I believe helps people not to get sloppy, is the amount of food available all the time ..... you tend to find yourself consuming and munching pretty much all over the place .... you know how it goes, tough to get drunk on a full stomach)

I've only ever seen an incident that needed taking care of only once .....

A few years ago on Grandeur, this drunk, rude, person was getting in the way of the Belly Flop Contest -- in essence, being a showoff for attention..... when another spectator said something .... well, then things got ugly and a scuffle began ...... armed security came in, like ninja, took both parties away ... if you weren't paying attention, you wouldn't have noticed, it was that smooth.  To my knowledge, nothing ever came of it, I saw both of them later in the day back in "cruise mode".......

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They need to turn the whole thing into entertainment. Anyone found drunk gets put at the end of a long pier and given 2 minutes to be on board before the door shuts. The entertainment value as people from multiple ships scream and cheer.. or boo..  

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58 minutes ago, toodle68 said:

They need to turn the whole thing into entertainment. Anyone found drunk gets put at the end of a long pier and given 2 minutes to be on board before the door shuts. The entertainment value as people from multiple ships scream and cheer.. or boo..  

Or put them in the Centrum (or other venue) and have them perform Michael Jackson's "Thriller" for the rest of the passengers and crew -

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1 hour ago, toodle68 said:

They need to turn the whole thing into entertainment. Anyone found drunk gets put at the end of a long pier and given 2 minutes to be on board before the door shuts. The entertainment value as people from multiple ships scream and cheer.. or boo..  

8 minutes ago, coneyraven said:

Or put them in the Centrum (or other venue) and have them perform Michael Jackson's "Thriller" for the rest of the passengers and crew -

Or make them do stand-up surfboarding on the Flow Rider for 5 minutes.

Hmm, maybe not such a great idea with really drunk people... ?

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We got of Ovation last week.  One of the staff told my husband that they monitor how much people drink via their Seapass cards.  If someone gets cut off and tries to go to another bar and get a drink they are denied there also.  They always know how much you have purchased even if you have the drink package.

 

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Just now, Yo2slick said:

Ive seen people say that the UBP doesnt work on port days....is that just referring to being off the ship?

They mean when off the ship somewhere other than Royal's own private destinations of CocoCay and Labadee. 

For example in Cozumel.  Leave the ship and walk into a bar, you pay just like a local. 

At Royal private destinations the DX package works and always on the ship it works regardless of the port you are visiting.  

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4 minutes ago, Yo2slick said:

Ive seen people say that the UBP doesnt work on port days....is that just referring to being off the ship?

Yes. If it is a non-private island port your drink package obviously won't work there. A random bar on Nassau couldn't care less about your cruise drink package. If you stay on the ship while in port, your drink package will work just the same as a sea day. The same applies on if you go to CocoCay or Labadee. Drinks in non-souvenir glasses (like a coconut) are included with a package. 

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7 minutes ago, twangster said:

They mean when off the ship somewhere other than Royal's own private destinations of CocoCay and Labadee. 

For example in Cozumel.  Leave the ship and walk into a bar, you pay just like a local. 

At Royal private destinations the DX package works and always on the ship it works regardless of the port you are visiting.  

 

6 minutes ago, spiralqueen said:

Yes. If it is a non-private island port your drink package obviously won't work there. A random bar on Nassau couldn't care less about your cruise drink package. If you stay on the ship while in port, your drink package will work just the same as a sea day. The same applies on if you go to CocoCay or Labadee. Drinks in non-souvenir glasses (like a coconut) are included with a package. 

Thats what I figured but I thought I would ask to be sure.  Thanks for the replies! 

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