The Cruise Junkie Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 I read in @Matt Blog Post Today and It Said That The Hotel Royal Caribbean Brought That They Would Be Puting In A Theme Park There. (Qoute From Post) The government expects an additional two million cruise passengers will be brought annually to Grand Bahama island. Once complete, a theme park and five-star hotel will be part of the redevelopment effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 I think one thing that could be a boost is overnight itineraries either at private island resorts or major U.S. or Intl cities...or some combination of both, if applicable. Ex: port out of Vancouver, overnight stay in SF or LA. Or if cruising to Hawaii out of Vancouver, an overnight in Honolulu. Or out of Sydney, Australia, overnight stay at a private island resort rumored to be built in the region the same in the caribbean. In Europe, a number of Mediterranean cities for an overnight stay. Explorer OTS did that once in consecutive weeks, in SF. Be nice to see a lot more of that. Paige, The Cruise Junkie, KristiZ and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 56 minutes ago, Jaymac Radio said: I read in @Matt Blog Post Today and It Said That The Hotel Royal Caribbean Brought That They Would Be Puting In A Theme Park There. (Qoute From Post) The government expects an additional two million cruise passengers will be brought annually to Grand Bahama island. Once complete, a theme park and five-star hotel will be part of the redevelopment effort. I don't think this is something that would really take off considering that in Florida you have all the theme parks. What could RCCL offer in a theme park that Universal, Seaworld or Disney can't? The Cruise Junkie, nanowerx and RestingBird 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 It's not what they can offer that those you mentioned already offer...it's the fact that a "Cruise" can offer a theme park experience, with smaller, limited crowds, as part of its itinerary. Hoski and The Cruise Junkie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 A "cruise" already offers theme park experience....it's called DISNEY WORLD & DISNEY CRUISES!! bobroo and The Cruise Junkie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Interesting about the hotel part...wonder if for example they would offer a 3 day cruise on one ship..spend a nght there and then a 3 day cruise back on a different ship type thing......I will be curious to hear the official plans behind the purchase. I get the resort for a day...pool..beach idea....the hotel part, not so much at the moment. The Cruise Junkie and Baked Alaska 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, monctonguy said: Interesting about the hotel part...wonder if for example they would offer a 3 day cruise on one ship..spend a nght there and then a 3 day cruise back on a different ship type thing......I will be curious to hear the official plans behind the purchase. I get the resort for a day...pool..beach idea....the hotel part, not so much at the moment. Now that you mention it, I just remembered that Bahamas Paradise Cruise Line offers that on old Carnival ships. I wonder if RCCL is actually stealing (cough,cough) copying their concept?? The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 26 minutes ago, princevaliantus said: A "cruise" already offers theme park experience....it's called DISNEY WORLD & DISNEY CRUISES!! LoL...come on dude, really? Not the same. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Zambia-Zaire said: LoL...come on dude, really? Not the same. Exactly my point. I'm curious to see what RCCL has up their sleeves that will really make me go "WOW"!! The Cruise Junkie and Hoski 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose City Cruiser Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, princevaliantus said: I wonder if RCCL is actually stealing (cough,cough) copying their concept?? In business, somebody is always copying someone. It is all about the marketing and execution of the concept. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted March 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, princevaliantus said: A "cruise" already offers theme park experience....it's called DISNEY WORLD & DISNEY CRUISES!! Well But At There Theme Park They Can Charge Less Than Disney. LoL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancity Cruiser Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Could this potentially be the second "Perfect Day" location? Not sure if there is an airport near there but could it potentially be a "home port" with cruises leaving from there but including pre or post cruise stays? JasonL and The Cruise Junkie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 It won't be a home port especially when you have Miami, Ft. Lauderdale and Orlando at arms length. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltw Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Vancity Cruiser said: Could this potentially be the second "Perfect Day" location? Not sure if there is an airport near there but could it potentially be a "home port" with cruises leaving from there but including pre or post cruise stays? No reason to have two Perfect Day Islands so close to each other. No reason to be a homeport either. This purchase doesn't make sense to me at all, especially with the recent CocoCay enhancements. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, ltw said: No reason to have two Perfect Day Islands so close to each other. No reason to be a homeport either. This purchase doesn't make sense to me at all, especially with the recent CocoCay enhancements. It is reported that RCCL was planning overnite stays in the Bahamas. Maybe this is part of that plan. The Cruise Junkie and Hoski 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattymay Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 It's a joint venture with another company who develop ports.. I am assuming it will be run as a separate hotel where the facilities can also be used buy cruise ship passengers. Much like happens everywhere else. http://www.seatrade-cruise.com/news/news-headlines/itm-group-reported-behind-130m-grand-bahama-cruise-project.html I saw this the other day.. they have also been trying to buy land on Paradise Island at the western end near the lighthouse. http://www.tribune242.com/news/2019/mar/11/royal-caribbean-targets-western-paradise-island/ The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken23 Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Could they offer one way 3 or 4 night cruises from or to Florida, with a one or two night hotel/land stay at the resort/hotel pre or post cruise? Just a idea. bhageerah and The Cruise Junkie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, Ken23 said: Could they offer one way 3 or 4 night cruises from or to Florida, with a one or two night hotel/land stay at the resort/hotel pre or post cruise? Just a idea. Bahamas Paradise Cruise Line offers that on old Carnival ships. The Cruise Junkie and Ken23 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Bayley has hinted at overnight stays at CocoCay for a few years now, dropping hints and tidbits here and there. Perhaps this has evolved from that plan or borrowed from it. With more and more ships coming, more Oasis capable ports are needed. It also spices up the MD and NJ based ship itineraries which look a little boring at times. A lot less fuel is consumed running from Florida to Grand Bahamas compared to Nassau. Based on Nassau reviews this also provides some relief from that. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 My first thought would that it would be similar an Atlantis-type experience. The cruise ships have excursions to Atlantis because it has a lot to offer for day visitors despite being a land-based resort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 8 hours ago, twangster said: Based on Nassau reviews this also provides some relief from that. I think there's some truth to that. At the very least, offering a stop in Freeport with a custom cruise line-owned area provides the necessary stops in the Bahamas that RC is contractually obligated to provide, while avoiding a notoriously poorly reviewed area by guests. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12thman Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, Matt said: I think there's some truth to that. At the very least, offering a stop in Freeport with a custom cruise line-owned area provides the necessary stops in the Bahamas that RC is contractually obligated to provide, while avoiding a notoriously poorly reviewed area by guests. @Matt just how bad is Nassau? Just bought a 4K camcorder for my trip. Should I leave it on the ship? I'm only interested in seeing Atlantis, mainly the aquarium not the water park. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mook1525 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, Matt said: I think there's some truth to that. At the very least, offering a stop in Freeport with a custom cruise line-owned area provides the necessary stops in the Bahamas that RC is contractually obligated to provide, while avoiding a notoriously poorly reviewed area by guests. I ALWAYS wanted to ask this question to expert cruiser.. maybe I should start a new thread but here we go. WHY is it that Nassau gets such a bad review? I only visited Nassau once - we purchased a day pass at Melia resort - and experience wasn't all that different from other port such as St. Kitts, St. Maarten.. Am I missing something about Nassau? Cable beach was beautiful! The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 37 minutes ago, 12thman said: @Matt just how bad is Nassau? Just bought a 4K camcorder for my trip. Should I leave it on the ship? I'm only interested in seeing Atlantis, mainly the aquarium not the water park. I think it's fine. I just went there three times last week and walked around. Like any port you visit, I think it's important to be vigilant about your personal safety, having a plan, and not acting like a fool in general. 30 minutes ago, mook1525 said: I ALWAYS wanted to ask this question to expert cruiser.. maybe I should start a new thread but here we go. WHY is it that Nassau gets such a bad review? I only visited Nassau once - we purchased a day pass at Melia resort - and experience wasn't all that different from other port such as St. Kitts, St. Maarten.. Am I missing something about Nassau? Cable beach was beautiful! It's a long story, but essentially Nassau is not as beautiful, developed or as wide-ranging in its offerings as other Caribbean cruise ports. I think there's a lot of factors involved, but in a nutshell, veteran cruisers greatly prefer other ports. ChessE4 and The Cruise Junkie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12thman Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 @Matt thanks for the information. Use common sense and I'll be fine. Doing a group tour, safety in numbers. The Cruise Junkie and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWaits Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 23 hours ago, princevaliantus said: A cruise line already offers theme park experience....it's called CoCo Cay! FIFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoski Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 They could use it as another paid excursion. You pay for a day at the resort or the option of an overnight at the hotel while the ship is in port overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep1 Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 On 3/29/2019 at 9:55 AM, mook1525 said: I ALWAYS wanted to ask this question to expert cruiser.. maybe I should start a new thread but here we go. WHY is it that Nassau gets such a bad review? I only visited Nassau once - we purchased a day pass at Melia resort - and experience wasn't all that different from other port such as St. Kitts, St. Maarten.. Am I missing something about Nassau? Cable beach was beautiful! As long as you are on the Paradise island side of the bridge things are fine. The Nassau you see by cruise ship is totally different than the one when the ships aren't in. I'm a boat captain by trade. Rough tough eat clams while still in the shell type and come sundown Nassau scares me bad. Cable is a center for bad behavior at night. Bay Street that by day is nice is a ghost town with far too many shady individuals hiding in all those little cut through alleys. Had a guy try to hold me up at knife point after failing to sell me drugs or women. He didn't notice that I was wearing a pair of fishing pliers that when applied liberally to his temple cause him to drop the knife and take off. Nassau just a few blocks in has terrible crime rate with large number of murders even. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMac Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 On 3/28/2019 at 1:00 PM, Zambia-Zaire said: I think one thing that could be a boost is overnight itineraries either at private island resorts or major U.S. or Intl cities...or some combination of both, if applicable... I agree on the major cities. I would love overnights in several places, San Juan for example. Why not two days and one night in San Juan, then cruise to the next port overnight. Flypped73 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 The "other shoe" has dropped regarding Freeport: https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2019/06/24/royal-caribbean-forms-new-joint-venture-develop-ports-around-the-world RWDW1204 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrlandoC Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 I assume the plan is to redevelop the Lucayan area into something like Falmouth, Jamaica? A closed off "port" with some fancy shops full of tourist merchandise. Except with the addition of a hotel/resort. What I really wonder is if their plan is to use the existing port and shuttle people there or if they will tender their captive audience directly into the resort? Maybe even a long term plan to build a pier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 I'm wondering if the Grand Lucayan will become the overnight destination that they first started talking about doing at Coco Cay. I don't see there being enough real estate to do that at Coco Cay now but if they use the already existing resort at Grand Bahama and develop that into a combination land resort and overnight stay destination for cruise pax, I think they have plenty of space there. Maybe they will repurpose the Majesty and Empress to be the ships that bring and retrieve pax from the resort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted March 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 Here Is A Update By @Matt About This Place. https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2020/03/02/royal-caribbean-announces-new-300-million-cruise-destination-freeport-bahamas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Va4fam Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 Very exciting for Royal Caribbean but I'm not sure I follow the concept. I'm just fine with staying on the ship at night with all of my stuff. What is the allure of staying off ship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac66 Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 On 3/28/2019 at 5:27 PM, ltw said: No reason to have two Perfect Day Islands so close to each other. No reason to be a homeport either. This purchase doesn't make sense to me at all, especially with the recent CocoCay enhancements. Actually it does make some sense in that RCI will have two captive ports where cruisers will have to spend their money exclusively with RCI. Not to mention that it looks like a land based vacation destination in itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Lite Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 They should put that 300 million into some fresh carpet on the Voyager class ships. SteveinSC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambia-Zaire Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 Would like to see Royal purchase & develop an area south of Tampico, Mexico as a Private Cruise Resort destination, similar to Labadee, for the Western Caribbean; and, maybe/also work with other cruise lines, in conjunction with Corpus Christi city & county council, & state of Texas, in developing a market/entertainment district that smaller cruise ships(up to Liberty Class at least, if not larger) can port to as well, creating new itineraries, in the Western Caribbean. The Eastern Caribbean is saturated & ever expanding...there is a chance to look for opportunities in the Western Caribbean. RWDW1204 and Vancity Cruiser 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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