The Cruise Junkie Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 SpeedNoodles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ama537621 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 I am booked on Mardi gras, Jan 2021. I never thought of the motion of the boat effecting the coaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ1231 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 Gent is suing RC for $10 million.... https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/man-sues-royal-caribbean-10-million-breaking-pelvis-using-cruise-ships-bungee-trampoline-170213605.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, KJ1231 said: Gent is suing RC for $10 million.... https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/man-sues-royal-caribbean-10-million-breaking-pelvis-using-cruise-ships-bungee-trampoline-170213605.html This will settle for $75k - 250k in which Plaintiff will only see 2/3 of the settlement minus disbursements. He will never see $10 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 I 'm sure Lawyer suggest to sue hight. Most of the money goes to a lawyer and legal fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, Susie said: I 'm sure Lawyer suggest to sue hight. Most of the money goes to a lawyer and legal fees. Only 1/3 goes to the lawyer with their disbursements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Keeble Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 Dont you sign waivers for this? CDunninTX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, J_Keeble said: Dont you sign waivers for this? The waiver is not for equipment malfunction. It is Royal Caribbean responsibility to make sure all equipment work properly and safe for guests. Orange Crush, The Cruise Junkie, Zacharius and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, J_Keeble said: Dont you sign waivers for this? Waivers hold no weight with the courts. AlohaLivin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VACruiser Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 If it ever makes it a jury you never know what juries will do. I can't imagine you could call this anything but negligence on the part of the Cruise Line. Based upon his injuries and future earnings that could be disrupted, it's hard to tell where it will end up. I would imagine that RC has insurance for these kinds of things. If it were me, I wouldn't settle for a mere 250K. It would have to be 7 figures. Dalewood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Tim B. said: If it ever makes it a jury you never know what juries will do. I can't imagine you could call this anything but negligence on the part of the Cruise Line. Based upon his injuries and future earnings that could be disrupted, it's hard to tell where it will end up. I would imagine that RC has insurance for these kinds of things. He was treated for a fractured pelvis and dislocated shoulder. Allegedly, the pelvis required multiple surgeries and a nine-day hospital stay. Given that he is in a wheelchair and getting around pretty well with the news/videos that is being shown and will be shown to the jury if it ever gets to that point which I highly doubt, and moreover, he has not expressed constant pain and doesn't require physical therapy, in my experience, this will settle for $75k - 250k. He will never see $10 million. RestingBird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfsu21 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 Agree this is a $50k Max payout without any significant permanent injury. Plaintiff pockets maybe $30k if he’s lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 hours ago, princevaliantus said: This will settle for $75k - 250k in which Plaintiff will only see 2/3 of the settlement minus disbursements. He will never see $10 million. I think he'll see more then $75,000. My daughter had a car accident and a passenger of the other car broke her pelvis. My daughter was found 25% at fault and Allstate paid out $93,000 ( her 25% share) to that person and who know what the other ins. company paid out. I assume it will depend on the severity of the injury, they say fracture. Not much can be done for the pelvis, it just takes time to heal. I do feel bad for the passenger, his world was turned upside down after this injury, especially due to no fault of his own. This was a malfunction/negligence and they will pay for his injuries as well as pain and suffering. They are probably suing the manufacturer of the bungee company & installers too and everyone else along the way. You sue everyone and hope for a fair settlement. Depends on how long you want to play the game. However, it can take years to settle. I wish him well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twangster Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 The news story and video clips are likely part of the process as they try to edge the settlement needle in their favor. The cruise contract has verbiage that covers taking photos and video. A cruise ship is not a public place, it's the property of the cruise line. The crew can restrict you from taking pictures or video at any time. Bottom line - it's an unfortunate accident. Accidents happen across the country every day in theme and amusement parks. The media has an odd fascination with anything that occurs on a cruise ship while often ignoring the same events occurring on land as mundane and not news worthy. Mike P, RestingBird, SpeedNoodles and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marti314 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 Guessing royal will go after the manufacturer of the actual attraction as well and there will be a lengthy investigation to see if these things have some sort of defect or if salt water affects their lifespan etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 37 minutes ago, twangster said: The news story and video clips are likely part of the process as they try to edge the settlement needle in their favor. The cruise contract has verbiage that covers taking photos and video. A cruise ship is not a public place, it's the property of the cruise line. The crew can restrict you from taking pictures or video at any time. Bottom line - it's an unfortunate accident. Accidents happen across the country every day in theme and amusement parks. The media has an odd fascination with anything that occurs on a cruise ship while often ignoring the same events occurring on land as mundane and not news worthy. Actually, the cruise ship is deemed a public place as if it wasn't, the ship would be empty. The crew cannot restrict you from taking any photos in the public areas of the ship, but may restrict you in employee/crew areas only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marti314 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, princevaliantus said: Actually, the cruise ship is deemed a public place as if it wasn't, the ship would be empty. The crew cannot restrict you from taking any photos in the public areas of the ship, but may restrict you in employee/crew areas only. per the Cruise Ticket Contract you agree to: b. Guest hereby agrees that any recording (whether audio or video or otherwise) or photograph of Guest, other guests, crew or third parties onboard the Vessel or depicting the Vessel, its design, equipment or otherwise shall not be used for any commercial purpose, in any media broadcast or for any other nonprivate use without the express written consent of Operator. The Operator shall be entitled to take any reasonable measure to enforce this provision. CDunninTX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/21/2019 at 1:00 PM, marti314 said: per the Cruise Ticket Contract you agree to: b. Guest hereby agrees that any recording (whether audio or video or otherwise) or photograph of Guest, other guests, crew or third parties onboard the Vessel or depicting the Vessel, its design, equipment or otherwise shall not be used for any commercial purpose, in any media broadcast or for any other nonprivate use without the express written consent of Operator. The Operator shall be entitled to take any reasonable measure to enforce this provision. The key/operative junction here is " commercial purpose, in any media broadcast or for any other nonprivate use". Now, with this in mind, what 5 year old or 60 year old on a cruise vacation will take a picture of something and broadcast it on ABC, NBC or CBS??? And I note: "media broadcast" is used NOT "social media". Insorfar, we, as cruisers, do the advertisement for the cruise lines by sharing our experiences via "social media". No cruise line in their right mind would give up FREE advertisement. Baked Alaska 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marti314 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, princevaliantus said: The key/operative junction here is " commercial purpose, in any media broadcast or for any other nonprivate use". Now, with this in mind, what 5 year old or 60 year old on a cruise vacation will take a picture of something and broadcast it on ABC, NBC or CBS??? And I note: "media broadcast" is used NOT "social media". except for this part: or for any other nonprivate use without the express written consent of Operator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, marti314 said: except for this part: or for any other nonprivate use without the express written consent of Operator When they refer to "non-private use" they are stating that you cannot use any of what they mentioned on certain types of media. For example, advertisement, posters, clothing template, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaN Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 On 3/20/2019 at 6:07 PM, ama537621 said: I am booked on Mardi gras, Jan 2021. I never thought of the motion of the boat effecting the coaster. It wasn’t a coaster, it was one of those bungee thinks with a trampoline inter it, like they have at malls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 Per the movie of the incident , one of the cords of the bungee was released. I am not an expert but it dose not look as issue with ship movement , more like maintenance issue. Issue like that can happen , what worries me is that fact that the possible landing zone was not padded enough . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfsu21 Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 On 3/21/2019 at 12:17 PM, Lovetocruise said: I think he'll see more then $75,000. My daughter had a car accident and a passenger of the other car broke her pelvis. My daughter was found 25% at fault and Allstate paid out $93,000 ( her 25% share) to that person and who know what the other ins. company paid out. I assume it will depend on the severity of the injury, they say fracture. Not much can be done for the pelvis, it just takes time to heal. I do feel bad for the passenger, his world was turned upside down after this injury, especially due to no fault of his own. This was a malfunction/negligence and they will pay for his injuries as well as pain and suffering. They are probably suing the manufacturer of the bungee company & installers too and everyone else along the way. You sue everyone and hope for a fair settlement. Depends on how long you want to play the game. However, it can take years to settle. I wish him well. Perhaps 75k but $10m is a pipe dream unless the bungee snapped and he bounced off the trampoline & through one of the holes in the giant ball and THEN flew off the ship and hit his head on the hull before impacting the water below. princevaliantus, coneyraven and nanowerx 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 On 3/21/2019 at 12:20 PM, twangster said: Bottom line - it's an unfortunate accident. Accidents happen across the country every day in theme and amusement parks. The media has an odd fascination with anything that occurs on a cruise ship while often ignoring the same events occurring on land as mundane and not news worthy. Fantastic summary CDunninTX and Orange Crush 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Turtle Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 Is the Sky Pad open again? I am sorry this person was injured and I hope they have corrected any safety issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mworkman Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 I wouldn't even begin to speculate on the payout... case in point: 2x4 dimensions lawsuit Lowe's 1.6 mil settlement hot coffee McDonald's 3 mil $6.3 Million: Back Injury. Cruise ship crew member from Haiti suffered a cumulative trauma disorder involving his back while performing his duties as a cleaner on a Royal Caribbean cruise ship. He then was provided with negligent medical care treatment. The jury found the cruise line accountable to the crew member. Verdict of 6.3 million the link below shows maritime lawsuit settlements. https://www.rivkindlaw.com/verdicts-settlements.html But I do know who my attorneys would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princevaliantus Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, mworkman said: I wouldn't even begin to speculate on the payout... case in point: 2x4 dimensions lawsuit Lowe's 1.6 mil settlement hot coffee McDonald's 3 mil $6.3 Million: Back Injury. Cruise ship crew member from Haiti suffered a cumulative trauma disorder involving his back while performing his duties as a cleaner on a Royal Caribbean cruise ship. He then was provided with negligent medical care treatment. The jury found the cruise line accountable to the crew member. Verdict of 6.3 million the link below shows maritime lawsuit settlements. https://www.rivkindlaw.com/verdicts-settlements.html But I do know who my attorneys would be. That verdict was back in December 20, 2013. Please keep in mind that even thought that was the verdict for damages, I can almost guarantee that it was appealed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mworkman Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 @princevaliantus https://www.rivkindlaw.com/files/dbr_140116-pa16.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinFC Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 2 accidents of the same nature on the same activity (I don't think same ship) is not a good reputation to have. I think the overall idea is great but I can see how people might shy away from it for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WannaCruise Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 11 hours ago, Sea Turtle said: Is the Sky Pad open again? I am sorry this person was injured and I hope they have corrected any safety issues. I saw a post on Facebook that it is re-opened today on Independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jticarruthers Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 ASked on Mariner this weekend and it was not open yet but they said "probably later this month" ... im on again at the end of May will check back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmaduke Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 5:48 PM, DublinFC said: 2 accidents of the same nature on the same activity (I don't think same ship) is not a good reputation to have. I think the overall idea is great but I can see how people might shy away from it for awhile. 2 accidents? I thought there had just been one? I've obviously missed the second one. Scary! My 2 boys are desperate to go on the skypad when we go on Indy later in the year but I think I'll be trying to dissuade them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny260 Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Marmaduke said: 2 accidents? I thought there had just been one? I've obviously missed the second one. Scary! My 2 boys are desperate to go on the skypad when we go on Indy later in the year but I think I'll be trying to dissuade them. I think they have closed all of them until they have finished researching the issue. Marmaduke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duggy_d Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 Am currently on-board Independence for the transatlantic and can confirm it reopened a few days ago. Matt and Baked Alaska 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VACruiser Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 I was on Independence of the Seas early May 2019 and it was closed so reopening must have been very recent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 12 hours ago, duggy_d said: Am currently on-board Independence for the transatlantic and can confirm it reopened a few days ago. Thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmaduke Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 On 5/17/2019 at 12:21 AM, duggy_d said: Am currently on-board Independence for the transatlantic and can confirm it reopened a few days ago. Thanks for this duggy_d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
souledgar Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 I just came off of Spectrum of the Seas today. It was open on my cruise (18-21st). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WannaCruise Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Mariner news has been quite quiet. Any indication when it will re-open? I know there is the on-going court case but not sure when that is done and thoughts of mariner re-opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted May 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, WannaCruise said: Mariner news has been quite quiet. Any indication when it will re-open? When I Saw It Last Week From PC It Looked Like It Was Not Open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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