ellcee Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 This just sucks on every level. Great that people are getting their money back but damnnnnnn. I got it at work a few years ago and I'm still weird about sharing food. I'm in a constant cycle of washing my hands then putting lotion on because my hands get dry. I won't touch doorknobs or the sink without a paper towel or my sleeve. I have a flight tomorrow and I bought special antibacterial wipes for my seat and the seat next to me. I don't mind the Windjammer but have a hard time using the same serving spoons, it freaks me out. I was never this bad until I had noro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLA Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 15 hours ago, Luvmyfurfriend said: 277 passengers sickened with viral illness! How many times has everybody seen people walking right past the hand sanitizing stations to line up for buffet? RC should have staff person stationed at buffets and require people to sanitize their hands! This is so preventable! Not that it's really an excuse, but the hand sanitizer on board doesn't actually kill norovirus - unless you have an antibacterial that's at a grade that can actually kill noro, you REALLY need to wash your hands. I'm a big fan of the hand washing stations they're starting to put outside of the Windjammer. Again, not really an excuse. But. 4ensic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 15 hours ago, MrMarc said: It makes me wonder if they determined it was a crew member that started it. Or Cozumel told them they would be quarantined. I think the decision to end the cruise early has to do with public relations aspect more than any logistical issue. MrMarc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 It has always surprised me that more people don't get sick from the casino. Can you imagine any BETTER place to spread a communicable disease than at a card table where everyone is touching cards that have been passed around....and around....and around ? I wonder if they closed the casino on Oasis at some point ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Hey @Matt, kinda ironic this happened the week you did a podcast on why people don't cruise, with one of the reasons being "I'll get norovirus" Doesn't change my perspective about cruising, but I chuckled a little bit at the irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedNoodles Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Auto said: Hey @Matt, kinda ironic this happened the week you did a podcast on why people don't cruise, with one of the reasons being "I'll get norovirus" Doesn't change my perspective about cruising, but I chuckled a little bit at the irony. Literally the next day I believe - I listened to the podcast Wed night, and then Thursday....BAM!! I chucked a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobbins246 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 I'm looking at this as a good sign that my cruise coming up in a couple months won't have noro. Like the Oasis cruise hit the statistical landmine and now the rest of us will be spared for awhile. Thank you Oasis travelers for taking one for the team!!! And I hope you feel better soon. coneyraven, WAAAYTOOO, MrMarc and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny260 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Brobbins246 said: I'm looking at this as a good sign that my cruise coming up in a couple months won't have noro. Like the Oasis cruise hit the statistical landmine and now the rest of us will be spared for awhile. Thank you Oasis travelers for taking one for the team!!! And I hope you feel better soon. As bad as it probably was, they received a free cruise out of the deal, for those that were not ill I wonder if they consider that a fair trade off? As @SpeedNoodles said earlier, it is not always easy for some professions to be able to schedule time off from their job. I agree though, this should bode well for the rest of us, I'm on Allure this Sunday, so I'm hoping (And washing my hands often) it doesn't strike twice. SpeedNoodles, WAAAYTOOO and The Cruise Junkie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLMoran Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, tiny260 said: As bad as it probably was, they received a free cruise out of the deal, for those that were not ill I wonder if they consider that a fair trade off? As @SpeedNoodles said earlier, it is not always easy for some professions to be able to schedule time off from their job. Well, those who didn’t get sick still lost two of their port days, and that could be a big deal for folks who don’t fall under the “My ship is my destination” umbrella. So to get their full cruise fare reimbursed seems very fair and even generous to me, when you consider that their time off just got messed up in a potentially (for them) severe way. Can they get back the time off that was lost? Nope. But they’ve now been given a chance to make another vacation plan, whether on Royal or not, since they’ll have the funds to pay for it. Whether they have the time available is another matter, but this certainly feels like the company did the right thing all around. The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cruise Junkie Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Looking @https://www.cruisemapper.com/ And Looks Like The Oasis Is Going To Be Docked In PC Late Tonight. Also Found This Video On Youtube About The Washy Washy Song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 I've been kind of silent on this one for a few days...What I have been wondering through all of this is if this will set the precedence for future cruises where Noro breaks out? This happens from time to time but, this is the first time I recall where they are returning early and issuing a full refund. What happens the next time and the time after that? It's going to end up costing Royal and we all know how that all ends.... WAAAYTOOO, MrMarc, FlowBro Ty and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny260 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 I haven't been quiet, but this one is odd to me, 6000+ passengers (Assuming full), 2500 crew, 227 sick (Quoted as 3%), there have been far worse scenarios that Royal and ship passengers have been in, the year of all of the hurricanes come to mind, but on this cruise they refund the passengers everything and I mean everything, my wife showed me a copy of the letter to the passengers posted on the C&A Facebook page, it was very detailed as to what they would get refunded. I'm happy for them, it just seems like over compensation on Royals part, IMHO. Sweety 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 58 minutes ago, tiny260 said: there have been far worse scenarios that Royal and ship passengers have been in, the year of all of the hurricanes come to mind, but on this cruise they refund the passengers everything and I mean everything ^^^Odd is a good word to describe the whole situation. And that's why it makes me wonder what happens next time... tiny260 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlowBro Ty Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Now Its Is Near 500. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nearly-500-people-are-now-sick-on-royal-caribbean-cruise-ship/ar-BBS7KiU?ocid=spartanntp The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarc Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Lovetocruise2002 said: I've been kind of silent on this one for a few days...What I have been wondering through all of this is if this will set the precedence for future cruises where Noro breaks out? This happens from time to time but, this is the first time I recall where they are returning early and issuing a full refund. What happens the next time and the time after that? It's going to end up costing Royal and we all know how that all ends.... I thought the same thing until I saw that they average less than 1 incident per year, and it only affects 1 ship at a time, unlike a storm which may affect multiple cruises. So I don't think it will affect fares. FlowBro Ty and Lovetocruise2002 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcruiser Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 My family and I got off the ship on the 6th. I’m so happy we missed that. FlowBro Ty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcruiser Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 I also remember being in the casino and one of the dealers keep coughing and looked sick. I hurried up and got out of there. FlowBro Ty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTE Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, Dcruiser said: I also remember being in the casino and one of the dealers keep coughing and looked sick. I hurried up and got out of there. Maybe RC determined it was crew related & that's why they refunded the cruise Baked Alaska, MrMarc and Dcruiser 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarc Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 A passenger described it as "a living hell". Yeah Dcruiser and FlowBro Ty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarc Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 I wonder if they are still giving them their C&A points. Dcruiser, Fuzzywuzzy and FlowBro Ty 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG Cruiser Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 hours ago, MrMarc said: I wonder if they are still giving them their C&A points. If they're refunding the cruise fares, giving out C&A points wouldn't hurt Royal that much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarc Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Just now, RatedPG said: If they're refunding the cruise fares, giving out C&A points wouldn't hurt Royal that much more. I totally agree, but it's funny how companies will end up making an issue over something like the points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2mybugs Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 7 hours ago, MrMarc said: I totally agree, but it's funny how companies will end up making an issue over something like the points. I could totally see them saying take the previous cruise points or the new ones... Not double. Will be interesting to see... Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownHolly Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 You get cruise points for actually sailing, not just buying, correct? If so, no reason to not get them. Baked Alaska 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAYTOOO Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 What I was wondering is whether or not every single passenger got a COMPLETE refund - including things like drink packages, dining packages, internet. WOW. If that's the case, this sailing was a REAL disaster for everyone ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLMoran Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Cruise Radio covered this in today’s (Jan13) podcast. Had a guest who was on board recount the whole thing. Guy was in the medical profession and had nothing but positives to say about how they were treated and how the crew handled everything. Said they were clearly well-prepared and well-drilled on the procedures to follow. Very level-headed discussion and no baiting or trying to steer the conversation in a way that would sensationalize it all. Definitely give it a listen if you’d like to hear a first-hand perspective. mom2mybugs, The Cruise Junkie, Baked Alaska and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2mybugs Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 48 minutes ago, WAAAYTOOO said: What I was wondering is whether or not every single passenger got a COMPLETE refund - including things like drink packages, dining packages, internet. WOW. If that's the case, this sailing was a REAL disaster for everyone ! Ok... That whole aspect hadn't even dawned on me. I was only thinking about the cruise fare. Ugh... You are right.... That is a huge amount more. Jane The Cruise Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarc Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, WAAAYTOOO said: What I was wondering is whether or not every single passenger got a COMPLETE refund - including things like drink packages, dining packages, internet. WOW. If that's the case, this sailing was a REAL disaster for everyone ! No, those things were only pro-rated for 1 day because they got back early. WAAAYTOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovetocruise2002 Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, JLMoran said: Cruise Radio covered this in today’s (Jan13) podcast. Had a guest who was on board recount the whole thing. Guy was in the medical profession and had nothing but positives to say about how they were treated and how the crew handled everything. Said they were clearly well-prepared and well-drilled on the procedures to follow. Very level-headed discussion and no baiting or trying to steer the conversation in a way that would sensationalize it all. Definitely give it a listen if you’d like to hear a first-hand perspective. Definitely have a listen. Way better than the media blowing things out of proportion. @CruisingKat(Kathy) shared this in the periscopers group. http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/5/b/f/5bfe2ebb4046a92b/BONUSNOROJAN1319.mp3?c_id=31456199&cs_id=31456199&expiration=1547398471&hwt=818ce990233dde8469ab6e80929eb526 CruisingKat(Kathy) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPS Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 On 1/12/2019 at 1:32 PM, MrMarc said: I wonder if they are still giving them their C&A points. I was on the Grandeur cruise last year that started two days late because of the rudder issue that kept in in Canaveral for repairs and still got the full amount of C&A points for the cruise I booked. (I received 9 points for the cruise that was shortened to 7 nights.) So, I'm sure the passengers will the points they booked for as well. SpeedNoodles, mom2mybugs and MrMarc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarc Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 Interesting: Ships account for less than 1% of the outbreaks for norovirus. https://www.cdc.gov/norovirus/trends-outbreaks/outbreaks.html SpeedNoodles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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