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19 minutes ago, Annie kaley said:

Does anyone think that RC reads these posts?

Yes they do.

8 minutes ago, MaritimeR&R said:

Likely that is also the reason that any news about specific ships and ports that will sail under the 98/95/5 protocol will not be forthcoming until the last possible moment to forestall the avalanche of phone calls requesting FCCs, refunds, or L&S.

I guess everyone just has to sit and wait until the other shoe drops.

8 minutes ago, jticarruthers said:

Unavailable.

Yep...that's what FotS reservation on July 3rd still says when I tried checking in.

23 minutes ago, Annie kaley said:

 

We have 60 days to go for our cruise. The 4th of July on Allure. We have a back up plan. My son and is girlfriend have started new jobs and don’t know what dates to give for vacation requests. I say if you are going to cancel do so people know how to plan their lives. Not fair to the consumer.

Well said, but falling on deaf ears. RCG is trying to survive by using the revenue from their loyal customers deposits, cruise planner purchases, etc. and using an old "Peter to pay Paul" scheme as long as they can. I'm 59 days away and can't even check-in. Per RCG, information will be released 30-days prior to departure. I think it's cutting it close but, c'est la vie !!

16 minutes ago, jticarruthers said:

I think the odds drop every day that they dont announce a clear "path" that they have agreed on and are walking down.

I have a mid-July booking that I would sail on without hesitation but most of the group i booked with is hoping to get cancelled and head up to Georgia for a week, they dont want to be on one of the first cruises ... 

Have you tried to check-in for you cruise in July or does it state unavailable?

12 minutes ago, johnt83 said:

Oh this Sort feature worked out nicely, thank you! I was trying to find some Roll Calls and I thought the search function/results may have been a bit wonky as it dug into random threads but this works out well as an alternative. Appreciate it!

You can also use a "nesting" system which many sites use.

On 6/21/2020 at 8:49 AM, FManke said:

As far as RC is concerned, our cruise leaving Venice on 10/3/20, is still a go.

You missed the boat that never sailed !!!

12 minutes ago, Atlantix2000 said:

Anthem, Enchantment, Vision, and maybe more are also missing in your original shot.  I'd say reopen the browser, clear cookies, or wait a few minutes!

Not for me...see above.

19 minutes ago, twangster said:

Once in a while the filters get clogged or something.  I've seen weird things where I can't see a particular ship & date but 5 mins later I can.

Royal IT.  

OR maybe you just have an old computer.

Not for me.

12 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

The concern over fake vaccination cards is wildly overblown.  Also if herd immunity supposedly kicks in around 75% vaccinated, then 95% is just the CDC playing games.

Let's just say your numbers are correct, wouldn't you feel more safer being around 95% vaccinated people rather than 75%?? I know I would. Don't knock it considering that's 20% of un-vaccinated people are the ones that you will be around and you don't know who those 20% are at any given time.

2 hours ago, twangster said:

If the emergency injunction against the CDC and the CSO on May 12 is successful you won't have any issues.  At least not from a Florida port.

Florida doesnt have a chance based on their argument which states, "that the lawsuit is 'likely to succeed on the merits of the case,' and it is therefore entitled to the injunction due to 'irreparable harm and hardships' created by the CDC’s actions." 

Moreover, considering that the cruiselines have gotten the go for mid-July pending meeting requirements, the Courts will most likely dismiss and/or adjourn to a date past July to render decision to see if the cruiselines did what they had to do for a mid-July opening. 

5 hours ago, CGTLH said:

Thoughts if this might be some progress in CDC's mindset changing or just becoming more flexible...

From this article: https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2021/04/28/cdc-cruises-could-restart-july/4883450001/

Based on industry feedback, the CDC landed on five clarifications to its additional guidance issued April 2 to allow a resumption of sailing:

• Ships can bypass the required simulated test voyages carrying volunteers and jump to sailings with paying passengers if 98% of crew and 95% of passengers are fully vaccinated.
• CDC will review and respond to applications from cruise lines for simulated voyages within 5 days, a review previously expected to take 60 days.
• CDC will update its testing and quarantine requirements for passengers and crew on sailings with paying passengers to align with the CDC's guidance for fully vaccinated people. So, for example, instead of taking a PCR lab test ahead of boarding vaccinated passengers can take a rapid antigen test upon embarkation.
• CDC has clarified that cruise ship operators may enter into a "multi-port agreement" rather than a single port agreement as long as all port and local authorities sign the agreement.
• The CDC has clarified guidance on quarantine guidelines for passengers who may be exposed to or contract COVID-19. For example, local passengers may be able to drive home and passengers who have traveled to cruise may quarantine in a hotel.

What stands out to me is why would the CDC all of a sudden would allow sailing "if 98% of crew and 95% of passengers are fully vaccinated" unless the CDC is leaving a "window open for failure", so-to-speak, should there be an outbreak onboard to cover their backside and throw blame on the cruiselines claiming "we told you so". Sounds like a set up.

Yes!!! If anything else, back-up plan now is worth considering!! Love the itinerary on EPIC!!!

https://www.ncl.com/return-to-service

31 minutes ago, twangster said:

The relevant question will be if the CDC changes its guidance on vacationing in Europe on a cruise ship. 

The CDC has no jurisdiction in Europe.

Venice, here I come!! See article:  https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/25/us/europe-vaccinated-americans-summer-eu-vacation/index.html

Not happening at this point from any U.S. ports. The July sailing from Cape Liberty, the checkin process is closed. I called RCG and was told there will be an announcement in a couple of days. No other info was given and when asked about any issues, was told that was the response they were told to give. This should be good.

13 hours ago, HeWhoWaits said:

The Bahamas is allowing fully vaccinated individuals to enter without testing. At the risk of being political, it appears the Bahamian Government is more progressive than that of the United States.

100% agree!!! Like many, I'm counting down till it's time to sail on Adventure!!

9 minutes ago, wordell1 said:

Reasonable doubt is a concept that is only applicable to criminal law.  The rest of us are content to believe what we see with our own eyes.  

And that's why I also stated "The information provided from an alleged "personal experience" outlined is 100% questionable" as I knew it wouldn't be nullified.

23 minutes ago, wordell1 said:

So by your own reasoning, you can't say that the info is wrong either

The information provided from an alleged "personal experience" outlined is 100% questionable. You can only be Superman and travel around the states to view almost 331 million people or even half. That's what we call reasonable doubt.

45 minutes ago, HeWhoWaits said:

Personal experience having been in many states during the period referenced.

You are reaching for something that's not there. I give you that you allegedly traveled to many states BUT you still can't make the assumption that from your "personal experience" since you would have to observe a HUGE part of the U.S. population, which is at approximately 331 million people, PERSONALLY not wearing mask. You must be faster than a speeding bullet, Superman!

11 minutes ago, HeWhoWaits said:

Most of the country has been NOT wearing masks OUTSIDE all along, with limited exceptions.

Masks required to enter stores, restaurants, churches, etc. does not equate to wearing a mask before entering nor does it prevent removal as soon as one exits.

Where did you get this bit of information?

11 minutes ago, TXcruzer said:

In all honesty, no one knows, despite what they say. 

Yep. I agree 100%. Just heard on the news that the CDC is considering is it safe enough NOT to wear masks outside in public. I was like "huh"???

45 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

80% vaccinated to reach herd immunity?  No way.

 

That'd be 80% vaccinated + recovered + pre-existing cross immunity, noting there'd be some overlap between those vaccinated and the other two categories.

Unless you have a better way than Dr. Faucci and/or The Bahamas government who is aiming to have 80 percent of Bahamians and residents vaccinated to achieve herd immunity, according to Chief Medical Officer Dr Pearl McMillan, I'm sure that they will want to hear about it.