Ogilthorpe

I called Club Royale last week and part of the conversation was about the accumulated comps in the queue which could likely expire before we could use them. While they could not tell me any particulars, they did say that an additional extension to the March 31, 2022 date is being considered.

I feel the same way ... but I don't plan to cancel and lose money. After consultation with RCCL, they intend to offer FULL refunds (including FCC) for those that don't agree with their restrictions. In my case, I will lend them the final payment amount for a few weeks in order to recover all of my funds. I would rather cruise, but I suspect they don't want my business currently ...

I have learned over time that there is always more to the story. Newspaper articles today claim the passenger in question had and recovered from COVID19. Statistically, that would make her much less likely to test positive than a fully vaccinated person. Since that claim could easily be verified, is there a greater propensity for a false positive with onboard testing? While her approach isn't impressing most observers, one must wonder if she has a bit of a point in her argument, and is there a possibility of this happening more often?

Planning ...or plotting and scheming? ???

I'm excited to see they have extended the double points. Now, if they would just extend the Casino benefits that have been stacking up since last March ... ?

My sample set is small, and therefore not likely to be considered statistically significant, but so far I see 0%.

Unless I missed something, it appears that you just checked all the same boxes. ?

Hey! I resemble that remark! ???

Perhaps I wasn't clear (Sometimes I'm not), I wasn't calling for an unvaccinated cruise ... just one in which it wasn't a factor. Pre-March 13, 2020 rules, no segregation, no testing, no paranoia ... just a cruise. A sailing that nobody was worried about being near "Those people", just a cruise.

I would add a 3rd ship to the poll ... completely free from vaccine consideration ... I would be onboard without reservation. To quote Billy Joel: "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints, the sinners are much more fun" ??

Good Evening, and Welcome to SlipperySlope of the Seas ... ?

As it has been noted, there are options for OBC or a discount with NEXT Cruise. The option I prefer is the OBC. That credit, unlike OBC that is part of a promotion is not subject to change if you re-price your cruise at a later date. Also, you have the option to rebook your cruise without a change fee for 30 (60?) Days once you make the reservation.

You are correct they have information for other ports, but only the Miami rules accommodate unvaccinated adult passengers at this time.

I agree that it is encouraging that RCCL is taking this approach. Unfortunately, the scope, at this time is quite narrow: Miami, Freedom of the Seas, July. Outside of those criteria we still have no real answers.

I would agree completely if we truly knew what the rules and options were. At this juncture, we only know what the rules are for today, and the rules change frequently and are open ended. What may be more of a concern for many, the restrictions have been suggested and not stated: ambiguous at best. Until we know whether 40% of us will ultimately be excluded from cruising, I believe it will be a ongoing discussion.

You may be correct, but I see two completely different situations. For the NFL players, some may not mind being treated like second class citizens when they are being paid several million a year to put up with the inconvenience. Cruise passengers, on the other hand, are paying to be onboard and can choose to spend their money elsewhere. I can see the NFL stumbling into a PR disaster when, for example, an MVP candidate won't play along with their tactics.

Both the Harmony and the Symphony have a Hot Tub on the Suite Deck (Sometimes referred to as the Afterdeck) Neither the Allure nor the Oasis, even post-amplification have the Hot Tub. I have not seen an attendant on the suite deck on the Anthem either. There is a door to the stairs leading to the deck that may be closed and require a Sky or Star class sea pass card to open.

Another possibility is, based on recent studies, they could have recovered previously from the virus as those individuals, vaccinated or not, can have positive test results. The testing is imperfect at best.

I agree with your observations. Based on data published by the CDC, when looking at survivability/mortality rates by age group, all were consistent with the flu except for those over 70. In that age group, the flu was slightly more deadly.

I recognize that this isn't answering your question, and it is not my intention to be a troll, but .... ... I find the concept of a Baconly room both intriguing and appetizing!

From what I have read, European countries are already viewing vaccinated and 'recovered' individuals in the same category. Additionally, research results in the US that prove natural immunity and vaccine immunity to be the same are gaining traction. If all of this is taken into account, the Cruise lines should be able to sail at nearly 100% passenger immunity without additional costs, restrictions, lawsuits or needless political debate.

There is a lot of room for speculation as to motives and protocols. Based on what is a rapidly changing set of rules in every state, it seems likely there will be fewer restrictions than what many assume. The fact that the Celebrity sailing this weekend could only attract a 25% capacity in the face of an overwhelming demand after a 15 month shutdown speaks volumes. I believe fewer restrictions will be in place in order to fill ships.

I'll weigh in with a couple of my favorites: DBP - Deluxe Beverage Package UDP - Unlimited Dining Package

Do you have link to reference the RCL refund options for those impacted by these rules changes? I haven't found any information beyond your post, and inquiries to Royal could provide no answers so far.

The debate continues, and likely will for some time. There may or may not be rules that some customers will or will not be willing to accept. The question that I keep coming back to is: If the vaccine works, why are the vaccinated so worried about the unvaccinated? ?