Shanenz84

Allure being absent from the 7 night/long caribbean release and Harmony now confirmed in its place it has got me thinking about where its going.. Here's some ideas I was thinking... To Europe to be amplified (although this would only probably take out a few months of service) Transferred to the West Coast out of Los Angeles (but not sure if demand is there yet for an Oasis Class ship?) Transferred to Australia and/or Asia Love to hear what your thoughts are on where its headed?

My guess would be Q2 2022, after Wonder as debuted.

Enchantment must be leaving Baltimore.

The clip on the C&A FB page shows iconic structures in the world so my guess is it’s about Icon. Let’s see!

I noticed on the deck plans it shows a new bar called “Cantina Fresca” so only a guess it’s a Spanish themed bar venue,

Be interesting if this 'Suite' neighborhood continues to any future new new builds or whether its just for the Asian Market. From what it looks like there is the Loft Suites and one level suites in the top middle section also a Sun Deck, Coastal Kitchen and Suite Lounge all in the one area.

That's forward thinking alright. They really need Sydney that will be the key one. Unfortunately the port plans to the south harbour were put on ice for now. Oasis 6 is due in 2024 so that timing could be looking more likely.

Excellent will be interested to see what we've got for 22/23. Hopefully some new ports its a bit disappointing that the South Pacific for 21/22 only go to the same ports of Noumea, Mystery Island & Port Vila. What's happened to Lifou, Isle of Pines, Mare, Luganville etc? At least some variety be nice.

I was wondering about this, must be the same with the NZD prices as all the prices seems to be much higher especially for the Suites. Currently have Symphony GS booked for Dec 2021 at $3,500 NZD pp and looking to change that to Oasis for Dec 2022 and even a JS is showing around $5,000 NZD pp.. ?

Wonder what’s happening with Enchantment & Rhapsody? Nothing listed after Oct 22 so far.

I think this was to be expected. One of the older ships left in the fleet and it was an outlier being around 30,000 or so tons. So for Carnival Group there is still 3 more to go out of the total 19!! ?

Any suggestions on what's happening with Grandeur of the Seas (now that she is staying in the fleet) as the sailings were only originally scheduled until April 2021? Nothing in the recent Summer 2022 release either. Same goes for Empress/Majesty/Enchantment as nothing after April 2022 as well or will these be included in a different deployment release?

So my prediction here is that Allure will be going to Europe for the 2022 season. Would be great if it would be to get the "amp" then before going to Galveston late 22 with the new terminal there opened.

Serenade is also now confirmed for the Winter 2021-22 season out of Sydney, Australia. Radiance will be repositioning from Alaska (Summer 2021) to Miami for 2021-22.

One observation i've seen is that there is still no itineraries for Serenade of the Seas post Alaska season 2021 and its not coming down under to Australia for 2021-22. Could be a potential US West Coast season?

I agree, New Zealand ports aren't likely to open either. They are better just to focus on the next Australian season from October 2021. Things "hopefully" should be much better then.

Based on all the above I can see the entire Summer 2020-2021 Australia/NZ/South Pacific season being cancelled at this stage.

Empress is heading to Malta right now.

Just a thought, if Majesty of the Seas could go to Cuba, surely one of the Vision Class ships could as well? It appears say comparing Majesty to Grandeur (or Rhapsody/Vision) there is only 11m difference in length. Could they not use one of these ships if Cuba opened in that case?

The current build schedule for Meyer Turku: Mardi Gras (Carnival) Due 2020 - Under Construction Costa Toscana (Costa) Due 2021 - Under Construction Unnamed (Carnival) Due 2022 Icon Class (RCI) Due 2022 Mein Schiff 7 (Tui) Due 2023 Icon Class 2 (RCI) Due 2024 Icon Class 2 (RCI) Due 2025

Yes only one season 20-21 down under it seems. Could it be headed for West Coast US?

Thats a stretch on "South Pacific" haha. But thats a good itinerary is it 2 days in Hobart on that one?

So the itineraries are now out, here’s my observations: • No Top End or Bottom End Australia itineraries • New port: Eden, Australia • Expanded season in Brisbane for Radiance of the Seas • Departure of both Voyager & Serenade for 21-22. • Quantum & Ovation doing similar itineraries • Otherwise a mixture of South Pacific, Australia & New Zealand itineraries.

Yes that's long been predicted. So it looks like only 3 ships for the 21-22 season as there was going to be 4 for the 20-21 season.

I just got a crown and anchor advance notice. The schedule will be out tommorow 11/06. So far confirmed deployment is: Ovation of the Seas & Quantum of the Seas (Out of Sydney) Radiance of the Seas (Out of Brisbane) Looks like Voyager is definitely leaving down under and also Serenade going by the above.